Oh fuck off. I am correct and you are a republitard sellout. Kindy sit on a land mine.Originally Posted by Powerboss
The 2nd amendment? ROFL! You are a walking talking caricature of the typical Obama voter. Ignorance is bliss!
Oh fuck off. I am correct and you are a republitard sellout. Kindy sit on a land mine.
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The ambassador died, Obama lied.
Šñøü†ê® (02-17-2012)
They are. They don't want nazi government zealot sellouts forcing their beliefs on others.
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
Businesses are run by citizens. What, are you now saying businesses are people?
Where was that fork in your family tree again?Why do you righty idiots have such a hard time understanding that? The 2nd Amendment DOES NOT give business the right to force their religion on others.
Pull your head out of your inbred ass and realize it.
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
Cowpunk, how dare you suggest the most basic civil right on earth in not a right. You disgusting, hypocritical homo.
I'll say this one more time: restaurant patrons do not possess a RIGHT to have the food of their choice served, while employees do have a statutory right to the healthcare mandated by law.
Irrelevant. The business as an entity does not have the rights of the citizens staffing it. Otherwise, Article One wouldn't be able to grant Congress the right to regulate interstate commerce.
I'm not Cowpunk, you tedious dolt.
You're deliberately ignoring the point. I'll try this again.
1. We're not talking about the current situation, and you know that. I have postulated a potential consequence of the current power grab, so stop sidetracking and saying that current law doesn't mandate it. I already know that, and have dismissed it because it's completely irrelevent.
2. It's not the patrons, it's the government mandating that all food outlets MUST carry a given set of goods because someone in the government thinks it would be a good thing that every customer who wants to buy food has to be able to get this set of goods for free. You know this as well.
It is not that difficult to see that a future admin could possibly attempt to do something like that, and again, you know this. At this point, you are doing everything you can to deflect attention from the reality that I have posed a hypothetical that could happen and that you oppose, but you can't admit it because it would undermine your stated reasons for supporting this power grab.
Just be honest with everyone and answer this question. Given that the government can now order business owners to act against their religious beliefs, what constitutional protection could a Jewish deli owner use to prevent the government from forcing him to buy and give away non-Kosher food? It's a very simple question, and one a former lawyer should have no difficulty whatsoever answering. I find it troubling to say the least that you have thus far been totally unable to give a satisfactory response.
Last edited by hadit; 02-17-2012 at 09:13 AM.
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
If that is the question, I doubt restaurant lobbies like the NRA would allow either the POTUS or Congress to make a law mandating service of any specific type of food without kicking up the mother of all fusses. That's the magic of democracy.
A local Church or religious organization that self insures isn't interstate commerce. Try again.
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
Ducking and dodging, and you know it. The point has never been whether groups would allow it. The point, and question, is what Constitutional protection could a Jewish deli owner defend himself with?
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
The law itself probably doesn't forbid it, although it would be exceedingly foolish.
Irrelevant. Insurance itself is interstate commerce, as per US v. Southeastern Underwriters Association.
I guess that's as close as you'll get to admitting the Constitution doesn't protect a Jewish deli owner from being forced by law to buy and sell pork products. It used to.
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
It would really be an issue for the courts to decide, so it doesn't matter what I think.
Hadit displays such faggotry with his "Oh Crap!" care and constant use of "TFO." I can't believe lulu actually thought that Hadit was one of the more reasonable conservatives. To me he's always been just barely a notch above Damn Yankee and Big Steve.
Cue the weepy violins.
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
And you are a typical republinazi poster child.
optimus (02-17-2012)
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