Iran Is Now A Top Threat To America

[GanjaFreebird]

First of all, punk, that was directed toward your boy in New York. I already told you, but let me be more specific. Back in the 50's and 60''s the Mossad had these heavy hitters running around Iran called SAVAK. They stirred up all kinds of shit. The CIA was of course, also involved. There was no treaty because we already had our puppet in place until 78.

The Mossad had absdolutely NOTHING to do with SAVAK Why are the Iranians behaving this way towards Israel over the last 30 years?

[GanjaFreebird]

No dumb ass, that isn't what I said. It's obvious that the U.S., Britain, France and Israel were greatly responsible for creating the environment that allowed ayatollalah dip shit to create the environment of hostility that you enjoy today.

1. Israel had nothing to do with what America and Britain did in Iran in the 1950's.

2. You can only use other people's past sins SO MUCH as an excuse for barbaric behavior.

3. Their insane behavior has more to do with radical Islam and barbaric culture, then with anger about something that America did in 1950, otherwise, you would be able to explain their hate for Israel, who hasn't done anything to them then.

[86Dùde]

OMG Ganga there is no helping you. You can't keep justifying this crap because you think they're insane. Sanity has nothing to do with it. They're surrounded by western enemies on all sides. They're not economically capable of projecting forces past their borders much less purchasing the tech in terms of precious metals to create things like warheads or even heat shields for an ICBM. If I had this many countries trying to kill me for no good reason then I'd build a bomb too as a deterrent.

[86Dùde]

The Mossad had absdolutely NOTHING to do with SAVAK Why are the Iranians behaving this way towards Israel over the last 30 years?

Yeah, and later monkeys might fly out my ass. They're behaving this way because we've created the environment that incubates their hatred. Kind of like the 3rd Reich in the 30's. The mistakes of our past will come back to haunt us. They make us who we are.

[GanjaFreebird]

OMG Ganga there is no helping you. You can't keep justifying this crap because you think they're insane. Sanity has nothing to do with it. They're surrounded by western enemies on all sides. They're not economically capable of projecting forces past their borders much less purchase the tech in terms of precious metals to create things like warheads or heat shields for an ICBM. If I had this many countries trying to kill me for no good reason then I'd build a bomb too as a deterrent.

Nobody would be trying to hurt them if they just minded their own business. Why do they threaten Israel and fund terrorist organizations? Please somebody tell me.

[GanjaFreebird]

Yeah, and later monkeys might fly out my ass. They're behaving this way because we've created the environment that incubates their hatred. Kind of like the 3rd Reich in the 30's. The mistakes of our past will come back to haunt us. They make us who we are.

No, we didn't creat that environment, they did and they need to answer for their own problems. Even if I accepted that America has SOME responsibility for that because of what happened over 60 years ago, that would still NOT justify their behavior/attitude against Israel, because Israel didn't do anything to them to deserve that.

[86Dùde]

Nobody would be trying to hurt them if they just minded their own business. Why do they threaten Israel and fund terrorist organizations? Please somebody tell me.

Because it is in their self-interest to do so just as we fund terrorists for our self-interests. They're trying to build an influence in their region. It's as simple as that. They push, you push back etc and so on and now we have this.

[GanjaFreebird]

Because it is in their self-interest to do so just as we fund terrorists for our self-interests.

If that's so, then they need to answer for their "self-interests" just like everybody else does, and if that means they will get bombed for that, then so be it. Anybody that funds Hamas and Hezbullah deserves to be destroyed as far as I'm concerned, and honestly, the only language that those people understand is force and it's time to show it to them, or else they will become even more of a problem than they are already.

[86Dùde]

Hamas and Hezbollah are going to bomb you anyway. They're REALLY going to bomb you when start dropping bombs on Iran. I'm not saying it's right, but that is how it is. I can't justify terrorists groups bombing civilians any more than I can justify drones bombing civilians in Pakistan or Yemen. There is no moral high ground here buddy. Both sides are doing what they think they have to do in their own self-interest.

[GanjaFreebird]

Hamas and Hezbollah are going to bomb you anyway. They're REALLY going to bomb you when start dropping bombs on Iran.

Well, if so, then it's better to REALLY fight and FINISH the enemy rather than keep waiting, it would be a good opportunity to break their backs anyways.

I'm not saying it's right, but that is how it is. I can't justify terrorists groups bombing civilians any more than I can justify drones bombing civilians in Pakistan or Yemen. There is no moral high ground here buddy. Both sides are doing what they think they have to do in their own self-interest.

But Israel and America have more power over their enemies and should put them back in their place, why, because WE CAN.

[Freedom&Liberty]

I like Ron Paul's litmus test for war. If congressmen aren't willing to go there and get their legs blown off or die, then we shouldn't go.

[GanjaFreebird]

I like Ron Paul's litmus test for war. If congressmen aren't willing to go there and get their legs blown off or die, then we shouldn't go.

A full war/occupation and bombing them are two different things. Few if any soldiers will die if they do it the right way.

[86Dùde]

But Israel and America have more power over their enemies and should put them back in their place, why, because WE CAN.

We're going in circles because you keep coming back to this. Your words seem to indicate an overly confident belief in military superiority in a place where our numbers and strength count for less. You're making a tragic mistake by believing that you can simply have your way with them. You can't cowboy your way out of this. You should admit to the seriousness of the situation if it goes south and there is good chance it will.

[86Dùde]

A full war/occupation and bombing them are two different things. Few if any soldiers will die if they do it the right way.

Occupy with what?

[Freedom&Liberty]

War should be as swift and as deadly as possible. We don't have the stomach for real war anymore, Ganja.

[GanjaFreebird]

We're going in circles because you keep coming back to this. Your words seem to indicate an overly confident belief in military superiority in a place where our numbers and strength count for less. You're making a tragic mistake by believing that you can simply have your way with them. You can't cowboy your way out of this. You should admit to the seriousness of the situation if it goes south and there is good chance it will.

[GanjaFreebird]

Occupy with what?

Exactly, we don't need to, just bomb them and hopefully kill their leaders, and that will be ok now.

War should be as swift and as deadly as possible. We don't have the stomach for real war anymore, Ganja.

That's what I'm saying.

[86Dùde]

Ganga, I hate to have break this to you but the pentagram is in no mood for another war. They're spread thin. Your peeps in Israel won't be leading any invasion force and any invasion we might build would be built on weak evidence. It's the same shit, different decade and you're falling for it. Even if they had proof the economic reality is not conducive to cracking a nut like Iran let alone occupying it. It can't be done and there is no political will to do it so keep dreaming because it will NEVER happen.

[GanjaFreebird]

Ganga, I hate to have break this to you but the pentagram is in no mood for another war. They're spread thin. Your peeps in Israel won't be leading any invasion force and any invasion we might build would be built on weak evidence. It's the same shit, different decade and you're falling for it. Even if they had proof the economic reality is not conducive to cracking a nut like Iran let alone occupying it. It can't be done and there is no political will to do it so keep dreaming because it will NEVER happen.

So if nothing will happen, why are you so stressed out about this?

[86Dùde]

Something is going to happen but it's not going to be an occupation. There is going to be a miscalculation with all the sabre rattling. Something is going to get lost in translation since there is no diplomacy between the 3 sides. Tit for tat murder of Israeli's and Iranian chem engineers isn't helping anything. Something is going to give. Your prime minister is probably not going to back down because he doesn't trust the president and when the Israeli bombing fails to do anything more than knock the program back a few years then everything bad is going to come to fruition up to and including a nuclear arms race in the ME at the very least. Nobody wants that.