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    I've never been more skeered in meh entire life! I nearly wet myself. Can you imagine a 1 kiloton uranium weapon! OMG ZOG WILL FALL fer shure!

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    66 years ago, George Orwell explained exactly the warped form of thinking involved in conjuring the Iranian threat:


    All nationalists have the power of not seeing resemblances between similar sets of facts. A British Tory will defend self-determination in Europe and oppose it in India with no feeling of inconsistency. Actions are held to be good or bad, not on their own merits, but according to who does them, and there is almost no kind of outrage — torture, the use of hostages, forced labour, mass deportations, imprisonment without trial, forgery, assassination, the bombing of civilians — which does not change its moral colour when it is committed by ‘our’ side. . . . The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.

    http://orwell.ru/library/essays/nati.../english/e_nat

    The rational approach to national security is not running around screaming about imaginary dangers but evaluating the facts carefully and making judgments as to how the threats can be managed without making matters worse.

    But Israel’s right-wing leadership and the American neocons apparently believe that the U.S. public is not inclined to rush off into another costly war if a realistic assessment prevails. Americans might be even less supportive if they understood that what Israel is actually after is a continued free hand to launch military campaigns against Palestinians in Gaza or Hezbollah in Lebanon.

    At more candid moments, that is what Israeli leaders actually indicate. For instance, Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak told Bergman that the real worry was not that Iran would hurl a nuclear bomb at Israel but that a nuclear-armed Iran could offer some protection to the Palestinians and the Lebanese when Israel next decides it must inflict military punishment on them, as occurred in 2006 and 2008-2009.

    “From our point of view,” Barak said, “a nuclear state offers an entirely different kind of protection to its proxies. Imagine if we enter another military confrontation with Hezbollah, which has over 50,000 rockets that threaten the whole area of Israel, including several thousand that can reach Tel Aviv. A nuclear Iran announces that an attack on Hezbollah is tantamount to an attack on Iran. We would not necessarily give up on it, but it would definitely restrict our range of operations.”

    But Americans are not likely to favor getting dragged into another war so Israel can freely use its extraordinary military might to pummel lightly armed Arab militants and the surrounding civilian populations. For such a cause, would Americans be happy to see gas prices spike, the fragile economic recovery falter, the federal budget deficit swell, and more American soldiers be put in harm’s way?

    Almost certainly not. So, the propaganda target again must be that weak point in the American psyche, that tendency to let the imagination run wild with movie-like scenarios of danger and violence.

    http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/02/05-1

    Teller represents "that weak point in the American psyche."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Teller View Post
    my computer would not open your link so i found another one.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46204265...aida-declines/

    WASHINGTON — Top U.S. intelligence officials on Tuesday asserted that Iran has the means to build a nuclear weapon but has not yet decided to follow through, in contrast to Israel's insistence that time is running out to stop Iran from developing such a weapon.

    But Iran is likely to strike out at U.S. interests if it feels threatened, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told the Senate Intelligence Committee in an annual report to Congress on threats facing America.

    Citing last year's thwarted Iranian plot to kill the Saudi ambassador in the U.S., "some Iranian officials — probably including Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei ... are now more willing to conduct an attack in the United States in response to real or perceived U.S. actions that threaten the regime," Clapper said.
    Nonsense.

    Iran is not a threat to America. If it is a threat to Israel THEY should deal with Iran and leave us the hell out of it.

    Why do some feel it necessary to fight Irsael's wars from them and protect them? It makes me sick.

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    The worst part of all this may be the fact that National Security officials don’t even have enough respect for the American public and media to create a new propaganda script; like some budget-strapped studio executives eager to push a worthless sequel to the market, they instead just lazily haul out the last script that was used with only the most cosmetic changes.

    Compare:

    1. 2003 - Iraq

    Saddam's al Qaeda Connection

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...3/033jgqyi.asp

    2. 2001 -- Iraq

    Saddam behind Anthrax attacks

    http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/...8/181505.shtml

    3. 2002 -- Israel says: Don't Delay Iraq Attack

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/...in519037.shtml

    4. 2012: Israel says: Don't Delay Iran Attack

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...?newsfeed=true

    Unfortunately for the rest of us, there are millions of Tellers out there.
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    1990 Iraq - Kuwaiti Incubator Story concoction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guido View Post
    ...Unfortunately for the rest of us, there are millions of Tellers out there.
    Sad, but true.

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    Rick Santorum has responded to Teller's call to "shout out" the Iranian threat -- Top Threat to Ameria, and to Missouri.

    Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum implied that Iran would drop a nuclear bomb in the United States if it had the capability.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...-nuke-missouri

    At a campaign stop in Missouri, Santorum told a crowd that a nuclear Iran would pose a direct threat, even to Missouri. “Once they have a nuclear weapon, let me assure you, you will not be safe, even here in Missouri,” he said.

    What conceivable benefit bombing the United States and Missouri Santorum thinks the Iranians perceive, is a mystery. He seems to think the regime in Tehran has an apocalyptic religious determination to destroy the United States or Israel. Like Hitler.
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    Insanitorum is one sick fluck. Rick needs to remove the AIPAC from his buttocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillZone;2252603
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    not[/I] a threat to America.
    BullSHIT, they aren't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Teller View Post
    When?
    May, 2008.

    "Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don't pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us . . . . Iran, they spend 1/100th of what we spend on the military. If Iran ever tried to pose a serious threat to us, they wouldn't stand a chance."
    The ambassador died, Obama lied.

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    He had an entirely different conception of what posing a threat to the United States entailed, since he was ensconced in a cold war, not a terrorist hot one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillZone View Post
    my computer would not open your link so i found another one.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46204265...aida-declines/

    Nonsense.

    Iran is not a threat to America. If it is a threat to Israel THEY should deal with Iran and leave us the hell out of it.

    Why do some feel it necessary to fight Irsael's wars from them and protect them? It makes me sick.
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    Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum implied that Iran would drop a nuclear bomb in the United States if it had the capability.
    I despise Santorum ,but on this one issue I do agree with him.

    Quote Originally Posted by hadit View Post
    May, 2008.
    Back then I felt the same way,but later on I found out information I didn't know at the time,I'm sure the same is true of the President.


    Look,I know you conservatives always bring up the past because you've got nothing of substance in the present,but let's stay in 2012,ok?
    It is difficult for any decent person to sit back and not comment on the anti-Semitism,racism ,sexism ,and all-around ignorance espoused on the majority of DA's posts,it's fucking sad when one gets a warning for simply being a decent person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillZone View Post



    Why do some feel it necessary to fight Irsael's wars from them and protect them? It makes me sick.
    We can use the song we used to do about Frank on you:

    (uptempo pop melody)

    "He hates blacks ,he hates Jews ,it's time to hear his Aryan views ,here's Kill Zone".
    It is difficult for any decent person to sit back and not comment on the anti-Semitism,racism ,sexism ,and all-around ignorance espoused on the majority of DA's posts,it's fucking sad when one gets a warning for simply being a decent person.

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    ^KKKrazy neocon nutter alert!

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    NEVILLE CHAMBERLIAN/CHARLES LINDBERG ALERT!



    Idiot.

    I despise Santorum ,but on this one issue I do agree with him.
    I enjoy watching you and GanjaFreebird say repeat this mantra:

    "I hate [fill in name of idiot right-wing racist shithead: Santorum, Gingrich, Bolton, etc.] but I do agree with him on this one issue, even a broken clock is right twice a day, etc."

    But the fact is, you have a lot in common with Santorum, Gingrich, Bolton, etc., because you're all morons.

    Release your inner Santorum, Teller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Teller View Post
    Back then I felt the same way,but later on I found out information I didn't know at the time,I'm sure the same is true of the President.


    Look,I know you conservatives always bring up the past because you've got nothing of substance in the present,but let's stay in 2012,ok?
    Except that we always knew you and he were wrong.
    The ambassador died, Obama lied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone Ranger View Post
    He had an entirely different conception of what posing a threat to the United States entailed, since he was ensconced in a cold war, not a terrorist hot one.
    Uhhhh, are you sure you know what we're talking about? 2008 was certainly not in the cold war.
    The ambassador died, Obama lied.

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    Meanwhile, back in realityville, the price of gas continues to increase on the mere thought of bombing Iran. Not that would get in the way of war monger thinking.

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