Ron Paul says he's against border fence, compares Latinos in US to Jews in Nazi Germany

[antiquity]

Incorrect. Alcohol is much more harmful and addictive than pot.

Depends on the extent of use. Occasional recreational use of either is not as harmful but daily used by either has been proven to harmful, especially to the young body.

[soylentgreen]

Oh, shit. Hey, guess what guys? Illegal immigration has been a serious problem I've been talking about for decades...through good and bad economies. Ron Paul is just wrong to make that comparison. We should have completely sealed off the border on 9/12/2001 if we gave a shit about our own security. But, we don't. We care more about protecting the borders of S. Korea and Iraq than our own.

Ron Paul claims to be a constitutionalist. Well, the constitution gives the Congress power to regulate the borders...and decide which goods or persons are allowed in and out. Congress has set forth laws according to those powers and they ought to be enforced even if that means we need to put Marines on the border.

As for drugs...I'm for decriminalizing the possesion of small quantities. But, to say legalizing drugs will solve all of our problems is just plain dumb. If we look at prohibition as yardstick, you can't even make a comparison. At the time prohibition was enacted, the country was overrun with drunkards. Of course, the other important fact is that I'm sure kids wouldn't be allowed to buy crack or heroin. So, a black market for the a lot of users would still exist. And, don't forget, just becuase coke is legal, that doesn't mean there won't be a stigma attached to it. Your local priest may want to do a few lines...but he may not want to be seen buying it at the pharmacy. So, he would still go to the black market as well. Then there is the issue of...what if the black market can provide the product for a lower price than the new drug industry (plus taxes)? Then what?

[Truth Teller]

No one is saying we shouldn't secure all our borders (not only the Southern half),or that there shouldn't be any immmigration/deportation policy(by the way ,more deportations have taken place during the Obama presidency).

We are saying that the policy should be fair, humane and should take mitigating cirumstances into account.


Goddamn man,even Newt Gingrich says that.

And Ron Paul is 100% right when he says the right-wing/GOPigs/Jan Brewers of the world have stigmatized Latinos the same way the Nazis stigmatized Jews.

[Šñøü†ê®]

...I'm not a one issue voter though.

Yes you are. You are a zionist regime firster.

[Cyclone Ranger]

Evidence?

[antiquity]

Evidence?

Your hooked nose, beanie cap/funny black hat and clothes and side Braids.

[Farnsworth,Luther P.]

Ron Paul is running a multi-million dollar family business, and will say whatever it takes to generate cash flow into his pocket. Silly racist nonsense like equating criminal illegal aliens with Jews in Nazi Germany is just his way of telling labor racketeers and swindlers he's all for crushing wages even lower than they already are, and of course flooding the country with cheap, uneducated labor and the criminal gangs who follow along is a guaranteed way to bankrupt what little bit of a safety net this country has left for working class Americans. Brie and chardonnay Democrats are all for it as well, because they like dirt cheap live-in maids and gardeners as much as any wealthy Republican does, so they are one on this issue.

Less than 2% of U.S. crops are picked by illegals, by the way, so the stupid myth that we're all going to starve if we don't let criminals and labor racketeers operate openly is just a wad of crapola.

If you think the trade imbalance and energy problems and high prices from inflated demand are high now, just double and triple the population over the next 20 years with a huge criminal class of racist squatters.

[soylentgreen]

No one is saying we shouldn't secure all our borders (not only the Southern half)

Really? If that's the case, why haven't the borders actually been secured yet? Someone obviously wants them in the state they're in now.

When the next 911 happens, and it's found that Arab terrorists who pulled it off entered the country across our Southern (or Northern) border, I want to see GWB and BHO hanged by the neck. The president has the power and authority to secure the borders right now.

...or that there shouldn't be any immmigration/deportation policy(by the way ,more deportations have taken place during the Obama presidency).

The illegals are deporting themselves because there aren't any JOBS!

We are saying that the policy should be fair, humane and should take mitigating cirumstances into account.

That's a crock of shit. No one is willing to cut me any slack as to whether I should be required to obey the law. I pay my taxes and traffic tickets as ordered. No one cares about any "fairness" or "mitigating circumstances".

Goddamn man,even Newt Gingrich says that.

I don't care.

And Ron Paul is 100% right when he says the right-wing/GOPigs/Jan Brewers of the world have stigmatized Latinos the same way the Nazis stigmatized Jews.

Let me know when they start loading latinos into boxcars.

[Truth Teller]

Yes you are. You are a zionist regime firster.

Your hooked nose, beanie cap/funny black hat and clothes and side Braids.

INSANE CLOWN POSSE ALERTS!

Really? If that's the case, why haven't the borders actually been secured yet?

To secure our entire border is fucking hard if not impossible, because our border is so huge.

When the next 911 happens, and it's found that Arab terrorists who pulled it off entered the country across our Southern (or Northern) border, I want to see GWB and BHO hanged by the neck. The president has the power and authority to secure the borders right now.

It's much ,much easier for terrorists to get in our northern border,and it's ever easier for them to get in via our ocean border(the same way drugs get in).

And weren't the 9-11 terrorists so-called "legals"?

The illegals are deporting themselves because there aren't any JOBS!

No Mitt Romney,I'm talking about ICE deportations.

That's a crock of shit. No one is willing to cut me any slack as to whether I should be required to obey the law. I pay my taxes and traffic tickets as ordered. No one cares about any "fairness" or "mitigating circumstances".

I don't care.

Let me know when they start loading latinos into boxcars.

Only a redneck would say that and mean it.

[antiquity]

Really? If that's the case, why haven't the borders actually been secured yet? Someone obviously wants them in the state they're in now.

Because Obama and Reno put a stop to completing the fence.

When the next 911 happens, and it's found that Arab terrorists who pulled it off entered the country across our Southern (or Northern) border, I want to see GWB and BHO hanged by the neck. The president has the power and authority to secure the borders right now.

Actually the majority of the 911 hijackers entered the country on legal visas, such as tourist and student visas. It is a fact most of them entered the US when Clinton was in office. I don't know of any of the hijackers who enter along our southern border, but I may be wrong. If you have some information about such please share.

Remember the story about Arab men doing flight training in Arizona. Happened before Bush was in office and was ignored by the FBI and Clinton administration (1995, 1998 and 2000).

May 15, 1998: Oklahoma FBI Memo Warns of Potential Terrorist-Related Flight Training; No Investigation Ensues
An FBI pilot sends his supervisor in the Oklahoma City FBI office a memo warning that he has observed “large numbers of Middle Eastern males receiving flight training at Oklahoma airports in recent months.” The memo, titled “Weapons of Mass Destruction,” further states this “may be related to planned terrorist activity” and “light planes would be an ideal means of spreading chemicals or biological agents.” The memo does not call for an investigation, and none occurs. [NewsOK (Oklahoma City), 5/29/2002; US Congress, 7/24/2003] The memo is “sent to the bureau’s Weapons of Mass Destruction unit and forgotten.” [New York Daily News, 9/25/2002] In 1999, it will be learned that an al-Qaeda agent has studied flight training in Norman, Oklahoma . Hijackers Mohamed Atta and Marwan Alshehhi will briefly visit the same school in 2000; Zacarias Moussaoui will train at the school in 2001

December 21, 1998: Bin Laden May Be Planning Attacks on New York and Washington
In a Time magazine cover story entitled “The Hunt for Osama,” it is reported that intelligence sources “have evidence that bin Laden may be planning his boldest move yet—a strike on Washington or possibly New York City in an eye-for-an-eye retaliation.

1999: FBI Learns of Militant Group’s Plans to Send Students to US for Aviation Training; Investigation Opportunity Bungled

The FBI receives reports that a militant organization is planning to send students to the US for aviation training. The organization’s name remains classified, but apparently it is a different organization than one mentioned in a very similar warning the year before (see After May 15, 1998). The purpose of this training is unknown, but the organization viewed the plan as “particularly important” and it approved open-ended funding for it. The Counterterrorism Section at FBI headquarters issues a notice instructing 24 field offices to pay close attention to Islamic students from the target country engaged in aviation training. Ken Williams’s squad at the Phoenix FBI office receives this notice, although Williams does not recall reading it. Williams will later write his “Phoenix memo” on this very topic in July 2001 (see July 10, 2001). The 9/11 Congressional Inquiry later will conclude, “There is no indication that field offices conducted any investigation after receiving the communication.”

June-July 1999: CIA Reports that Bin Laden Plans Attack in US

In testimony before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and in a briefing to House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence staffers one month later, the chief of the CIA’s Counter Terrorism Center describes reports that bin Laden and his associates are planning attacks in the US.

The illegals are deporting themselves because there aren't any JOBS!

And the farmers are coping without them by hiring and training legals and Americans.

[soylentgreen]

To secure our entire border is fucking hard if not impossible, because our border is so huge.

You're telling me that 40 years after we put men on the moon that we can't secure a few thousand mile line? It's a joke.

It's much ,much easier for terrorists to get in our northern border,and it's ever easier for them to get in via our ocean border(the same way drugs get in).

Perhaps it is easier to get in the northern border. However, I believe Canada probably has a better handle on their own security, and therefore ours, than Mexico does.

At this point, I don't think terrorists have access to submarines with amphibious landing capabilities, so I think the coasts are relatively safe from invasion by jihadists. Of course, I could be wrong.

And weren't the 9-11 terrorists so-called "legals"?

I know that at least some of them were. They had entered the country legally, but overstayed their visas. In other words, if we were more discerning with who we issue visas to...and if we were better at tracking down and deporting those who have visa violations...perhaps 911 would not have happened.

No Mitt Romney,I'm talking about ICE deportations.

Yes, I understand.

Only a redneck would say that and mean it.

The part about the boxcars?

I personally think making a serious comparison between today's America and it's treatment of latinos and Nazi Germany's treatment of Jews is offensive. But, hey, why not? Glenn Beck compares everything to Nazi Germany too...

[antiquity]

To secure our entire border is fucking hard if not impossible, because our border is so huge.

So is the space between your ears.

[Truth Teller]

You're telling me that 40 years after we put men on the moon that we can't secure a few thousand mile line?

Our entire border (land and ocean) is to vast to fully secure.

Some GOPigs single out the Southern border and that is clearly because of race.

Perhaps it is easier to get in the northern border.

Yes it is ,and terrorists take the easy route.

However, I believe Canada probably has a better handle on their own security, and therefore ours, than Mexico does.

Source?

So much of the Northern border has no security whatsoever,that alone makes it easier for terorrists to get in(and out).

I don't think terrorists have access to submarines with amphibious landing capabilities

They don't need to.

so I think the coasts are relatively safe from invasion by jihadists. Of course, I could be wrong.

How do you think drugs get into places like Miami?

They had entered the country legally

Which is my point,the rest is spin.

The part about the boxcars?

So is the space between your ears.

Yawn.


ZZZzzzzzzzzz.

[hadit]

Some GOPigs single out the Southern border and that is clearly because of race.

RACE OBSESSION ALERT!

[DamnYankee]

Ron Paul says he's against border fence, compares Latinos in US to Jews in Nazi Germany

Ron Paul is a nut. But he's a funny sumbitch. I love it when he gets up there sounding like a complete dork.

[gregbule1]

This might not be the best thread for this but does any one know where can I find a doctor who will sign my medical marijuana forms? Can anyone ere point me the right direction, I'm desperate! I've been working with Weed Doctor Website, anyone ever heard of them?

[antiquity]

Doesn't Canada have free socialize medicine? Go ask them. You will probably only have to wait for six months.

[soylentgreen]

Our entire border (land and ocean) is to vast to fully secure.

Shouldn't we at least try?

Some GOPigs single out the Southern border and that is clearly because of race.

We just had a Republican president serve 8 years in office and he didn't do shit about it.

It only makes sense to focus on the southern border...because that's the place where we know most of the illegal entries happen. This isn't made up. It's real.

Source?

So much of the Northern border has no security whatsoever,that alone makes it easier for terorrists to get in(and out).

I don't need a source. In case you haven't noticed, Mexico is like a war zone. Canada is not. Canada is a wealthy nation which has not been overtaken by gangs and drugs. Mexico, on the other hand, is a third-world hell hole. Which country do you think is more secure internally?

How do you think drugs get into places like Miami?

I'm sure they don't come from Iran.

Which is my point,the rest is spin.

It's a good point...but all it says to me is not only do we need border security, we need a better way to identify those who are overstaying visas and to enforce deportation on them.

Not once have I said that the only thing we should do is secure the Southern border. We need comprehensive efforts...focused on the areas with the most problems first.