First they came...

[jwreck]

While I am certainly wary of Islam and think its followers have a propensity for violence, the OP is rather ridiculous.

[Šñøü†ê®]

The schizophrenic zionist Michael Savage uses that ad hominem BS about boogeymen coming to get us all the time.

He did it early this evening...12:20 on this video.

[Archaix]

Ah, CCC, where to begin?

For one thing, if you insist on heading your post with a 77min film, don’t expect everyone to watch it. It was easier for me to Google it, look at the filmmaker’s website, find out they have endorsements from Glenn Beck, and dismiss it out of hand.

For another, the Arab Spring was not started or inspired by anything Obama said or did, and the participants are not just the Muslim Brotherhood –a recent Gallup poll showed that a mere 22% of people in Egypt think a MB-dominated Parliament would be a good thing. Sure Islamic parties will win elections, but that doesn’t mean Al Qaeda are in town (and there are moderate Christian parties in the West, so it smacks of double-standard). Don’t maintain such a narrow-minded view of the world.

Now: Geert Wilders. I suppose he’s not all bad for an intolerant arsehole, given that he doesn’t mind homosexuals and Jews (better than a lot of far-right parties, right?), and he does reflect the American right wing’s fear of muslims. He even argues in the manner to which your right-wing is accustomed: make Islam into an inherent evil ideology, compare that ideology to Nazism, and then present yourself as whiter-than-white in contrast. It doesn’t really matter than millions of innocent, law-abiding muslims who don’t interpret the Koran that way are now your targets.

I was especially titillated by this excerpt from your manuscript:

“Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it.” - George Orwell, Nineteen-eighty four

In which case we wouldn’t have heard of him or his views in the first place, genius. Hang on, isn’t this a tirade against a ‘murderous’ religion? I call thoughtcrime!

Anyway, onto the next problem: you know shit about British muslims. I doubt you’ve ever met one (a problem you seem to share with other Islamophobes on DA). According to a 2009 poll 77% of British muslims said that they identified strongly with the UK (as opposed to 50% of the general public and our troublesome Scots); 76% had confidence in the police, opposed to 67%; and just 3% said they feel threatened by other religions, as opposed to 26%. Oh, and by the way –muslims in the UK account for 2.7% of the population. That’s dwarfed by Christianity and non-belief, at 71.6% and 15.5% respectively.

As for the continent, well:

When asked directly whether they think Muslims
living in their countries are loyal to the country, between 35% and 45% of the Germans, French, and Britons overall responded affirmatively. However, the
overwhelming majority of Muslim residents themselves in all three cities studied maintained that Muslims are loyal to the countries they live in: 73% in Paris, 74% in
London, and 72% in Berlin...Muslims are very likely – often more likely than the general public -- to express confidence in democratic institutions and a desire to live in neighborhoods with mixed ethnic and religious backgrounds. The idea that it is important to include Muslim voices in the policy debates and political processes of these three countries is reflected not only in the opinions of Muslims themselves who live in them, but also in the majorities of the general populations (with the exception of Germany) who think Muslims should be more involved in politics.

(Source)
I’d ignore the poorly-sourced, sensationalist scare-stories from European far-right parties, if I were you.

a new poll reveals that a majority of Germans do not see the terrorist's death as a reason to celebrate.

Funny story: Europeans all seemed to think Americans were crazy when they started celebrating the death of Bin Laden. You know, like they’d sank to the level of the people they hated in the first place and forgotten that killing Bin Laden changes nothing.

The demographics of Europe are rapidly changing. Combine the low non-Muslim European birth rate with the Muslim birth rate, plus mass Muslim immigration, Europe as we knew it is dying and unless something is done now, they will someday be dominated by Muslims and Sharia will be imposed.

That only assumes that Muslim fertility continues the way it has and, er, ‘Christian’ fertility continues to decline, when in fact it seems likely that the former will decline also when higher standards of life (employment, education, health etc) affect birth rates kick in. Also, it assumes that children are automatically the religion of their parents, which is fucking annoying:

So deeply ingrained is this divisive ethos in our social consciousness that journalists, and indeed most of us, breezily refer to "Catholic children", "Protestant children", "Muslim children", "Christian children", even where the children are too young to decide what they think about questions that divide the various faiths. We assume that children of Catholic parents (for instance) just are "Catholic children", and so on. A phrase such as "Muslim child" should grate like fingernails on a blackboard. The appropriate substitution is "child of Muslim parents".

I satirised the faith-labelling of children, in the Guardian last month (26 November), using an analogy that almost everybody gets as soon as he hears it - we wouldn't dream of labelling a child a "Keynesian child" simply because her parents were Keynesian economists. Mr Cameron, you replied to that serious and sincere point with what could distinctly be heard on the audio version as a contemptuous s******: "Comparing John Maynard Keynes to Jesus Christ shows, in my view, why Richard Dawkins just doesn't really get it." Do you get it now, Prime Minister? Obviously I was not comparing Keynes with Jesus. I could just as well have used "monetarist child" or "fascist child" or "postmodernist child" or "Europhile child". Moreover, I wasn't talking specifically about Jesus, any more than Muhammad or the Buddha.

(Source)
Wise words.

Let us all be foolish as the Neville “Peace for our time” Chamberlains of this world. Heaven forbid!

Christ, another Neville Chamberlain reference!

[Guido]

Christ, another Neville Chamberlain reference!

Referring to "Neville Chamberlain" in the context of the "threat" posed by Mohammadens or by Iran, is very popular among pinheads. It indirectly accomplishes the goal of drawing a parallel between the Iran (or some ragtag stateless group of zealots who don't have an army, navy, country, flag, official website, etc.) and Nazi Germany in the 1930s, even though that comparison is patently absurd. The fact that the comparison is absurd probably explains why most of the pinheads prefer to draw it indirectly, by referring to "Neville Chamberlain" instead of Nazi Germany. However, not all the pinheads are that subtle.

For example, you may have noticed that Truth Teller is compulsively drawn to the "Neville Chamberlain" reference* whenever Iran is being discussed -- despite the fact that Iran's military budget is about 1% of America's and Iran hasn't invaded another country in 500 years or so. But he doesn't stop there: he goes on to explicitly identify Iran with Nazi Germany, while suggesting that unless stopped, Iran will engineer another Holocaust.

Most pinheads aren't this audacious.

*Truth Teller recently varied his approach, asserting that "Charles Lindberg's policy" of appeasement led to the "murder of 6 million Jews," even though Lindberg, not being a government official, had only an opinion and not a policy. He even suggested that I have adopted "Charles Lindberg's policy" and therefore will be responsible for the next Holocaust -- when it happens, which it will, unless we start bombing soon.

[CCC]

^ The last three posters are close-minded, bigoted, ignorant morons, so don't expect me to give a flying crap what y'all think. You losers frankly deserve to live (and be put to death) under the jack-boot of Sharia. Pathetic.

[CCC]

^Micheal Savage listener alert!

Liar. I haven't listened to that bi-polar freak in ages. He's more your style.

[Archaix]

^ The last three posters are close-minded, bigoted, ignorant morons

Ironically, those are three of your personal qualities that make you unable to address the points I raised in my reply. Because otherwise, you'd try.

You losers frankly deserve to live (and be put to death) under the jack-boot of Sharia.

Aw, you're just saying that...

[CCC]

Ironically, those are three of your personal qualities that make you unable to address the points I raised in my reply. Because otherwise, you'd try.

Sayeth the person who dismisses a well-documented video based on an endorsement from Glenn Beck. Pathetic little close-minded, bigoted ignorant hypocrite you are.

Aw, you're just saying that...

Naw, I mean it. It's your actions (or inaction) that will ensure that fate for future generations whilst it is people like you who deserve that fate.

[Archaix]

Sayeth the person who dismisses a well-documented video based on an endorsement from Glenn Beck. Pathetic little close-minded, bigoted ignorant hypocrite you are.

While I am well aware of Glenn Beck's deficiencies in political science, I dismissed the video because it's 77 minutes long. This isn't a film club.

I still raised a number of things you haven't yet addressed, by the way, and I suppose that's because you've already fossilised into some sort of angry idiot who can't question evidence properly.

You're an angry fossil.

Naw, I mean it. It's your actions (or inaction) that will ensure that fate for future generations whilst it is people like you who deserve that fate.

Still wouldn't be my fault, in just the same way WW2 wasn't Chamberlain's fault. That's assuming your fucking hopeless skills as a future forecaster hit the nail on the head, though.

[jwreck]

^ The last three posters are close-minded, bigoted, ignorant morons, so don't expect me to give a flying crap what y'all think. You losers frankly deserve to live (and be put to death) under the jack-boot of Sharia. Pathetic.

Dude you really need a chill pill.

[Lulu]

^ The last three posters are close-minded, bigoted, ignorant morons, so don't expect me to give a flying crap what y'all think. You losers frankly deserve to live (and be put to death) under the jack-boot of Sharia. Pathetic.

lol. WWJD?

I bypassed the first video because it was over an hour long, however, thanks Archaix for confirming I made the right choice. Actually, the truth is I bypassed all the videos because the whole post rambled into hysteria so I figured the videos would be along the same vein. I watched a little of the jihad video with the spooky music but I've seen a 60 minutes or Dateline on this which is a better news source. This level of Islamophobia is not healthy, CCC.

[optimus]

Mulsims are bad and shud die

[optimus]

This level of Islamophobia is not healthy, CCC.

See Farnsworth for details.

[Lulu]

See Farnsworth for details.

I thought his issue was with the gays and that gay sex festival in San Francisco. Then again I don't read too many of Islam threads. I probably should for the lulz.

[optimus]

I thought his issue was with the gays and that gay sex festival in San Francisco. Then again I don't read too many of Islam threads. I probably should for the lulz.

You should. You're missing out on a lot of lulz. Take CCC's Islamophobia and multiply it by a thousand, and you get Farnsworth.

[Archaix]

Farnsworth is to the concept of proportional response what Pope Benedict XVI is to the concept of evolution.

[Šñøü†ê®]

^ The last three posters...deserve to ...be put to death.

^Not a nice guy alert!

Liar. I haven't listened to that bi-polar freak in ages.

So from where did you regurgitate the scary boogieman stuff about boogiemen coming to getcha and stuff?

[Cd.]

First the Islamofascists came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the Hindus,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Hindu.
Then they came for the rest of Asia,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't Asian.
Then they came for Africa,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't African.
Then they came for Europe,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't European.
Then they came for America,
and I didn't speak out because I was a Ron Paul supporter.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

Somehow I do not think that Martin Niemoller had this in mind.

[Šñøü†ê®]

Cd., was Martin Niemoller a member of the Illuminati, NWO organization called the World Council of Churches?

[Cd.]

Cd., was Martin Niemoller a member of the Illuminati, NWO organization called the World Council of Churches?

Not that I'm aware. He was Protestant clergyman who was imprisoned by the Nazis.
Do you have anything on him?