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    RIP Christopher Hitchens

    The greatest of the Four Horsemen has died of cancer, aged 62. A British-American journalist, he wrote some of the finest non-fiction you'll ever read and was a renowned athiest to the day he died. He was a left-winger but supported the Iraq War, and a libertarian that opposed religion in all forms, along with his friend Richard Dawkins.

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    Not sure if he was a hypocrite like so many zionists who claim to be atheists, like Bill Maher. But he seems to be making sense here, not as articulate maybe as Mahmoud Ahmadinejadm, although the content of Hitchens explanation is pretty much the exact same thing that neocon nutters are using as a basis to destroy a country, that the Hitler must be stopped, etc. Hitchens seems to recognize the madness of a zionist regime at the time of this interview anyway.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Archaix View Post
    The greatest of the Four Horsemen has died of cancer, aged 62. A British-American journalist, he wrote some of the finest non-fiction you'll ever read and was a renowned athiest to the day he died. He was a left-winger but supported the Iraq War, and a libertarian that opposed religion in all forms, along with his friend Richard Dawkins.

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    How does one of the Four Horsemen die? Does anyone else find this Ironic? Why would an Atheist use a biblical person to represent himself. Oh well, guess he's no longer an atheist right about now anyway. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Šñøü†ê® View Post
    Not sure if he was a hypocrite like so many zionists who claim to be atheists, like Bill Maher.
    He was always opposed to the Israeli occupation of Palestine, and I doubt he ever liked Zionism.

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    How does one of the Four Horsemen die? Does anyone else find this Ironic? Why would an Atheist use a biblical person to represent himself.
    Huh. I guess you don't recognise a sense of humour when it hits you in the face.

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    Oh well, guess he's no longer an atheist right about now anyway. lol
    If God does exist, he'll be congratulating Hitchens for thinking much harder about religion and how to be moral than any believer has ever done.

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    He was always opposed to the Israeli occupation of Palestine, and I doubt he ever liked Zionism.
    He was always critical of Israel, but he stoped being 100% anti-Zionist and did say good things about Israel and its democracy later on, and that despite their faults, they are still much better than their radical Muslim enemies..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Šñøü†ê® View Post
    Not sure if he was a hypocrite like so many zionists who claim to be atheists, like Bill Maher. But he seems to be making sense here, not as articulate maybe as Mahmoud Ahmadinejadm, although the content of Hitchens explanation is pretty much the exact same thing that neocon nutters are using as a basis to destroy a country, that the Hitler must be stopped, etc. Hitchens seems to recognize the madness of a zionist regime at the time of this interview anyway.

    I obviously disagree with him on Israel's issue, and many other issues as a matter of fact. However, it's obvious over many different statements that he ever did about Israel and Judaism, that he was very confused himself, and had a hard time opposing his people in favor of barbaric insane religious fundamentalists, but on the other hand, his principle of caring about every human around the world (including humans who refuse to act like humans) made him question Israel's actions towards the Palestinians, which is understandable as long as you're having a hard time accepting the insanity and violence of the Arab culture in general, which is also why he supported the Iraq war.

    However, I did agree with him on many other issues, and I do have respect for him because no matter if right or wrong, he used his brains and I can appreciate his level of thinking even when I completely happen to dissagree. So yeah, RIP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GanjaFreebird View Post
    I obviously disagree with him on Israel's issue, and many other issues as a matter of fact. However, it's obvious over many different statements that he ever did about Israel and Judaism, that he was very confused himself, and had a hard time opposing his people in favor of barbaric insane religious fundamentalists, but on the other hand, his principle of caring about every human around the world (including humans who refuse to act like humans) made him question Israel's actions towards the Palestinians, which is understandable as long as you're having a hard time accepting the insanity and violence of the Arab culture in general, which is also why he supported the Iraq war.
    He didn't support the Iraq War for Israel's sake (as far as I know), but he strongly supported exporting democracy and Western secular government wherever it was possible to do so. I think he was incredibly naive in supporting Bush's administration, which really wasn't in it for such idealistic reasons, but he pulled no punches in criticising the American Christian right.

    BTW his brother and complete diametric opposite, Peter Hitchens, wrote a post in response to his death yesterday (if anyone's interested).

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    Quote Originally Posted by queenlillian1962 View Post
    Oh well, guess he's no longer an atheist right about now anyway. lol
    I hate it when people say this stupid shit. Talk about the epitome of arrogance.


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    He didn't support the Iraq War for Israel's sake
    True, and as a very strong Israel supporter myself, I believe that the Iraq war did Israel more harm than good overall anyways.

    but he strongly supported exporting democracy and Western secular government wherever it was possible to do so. I think he was incredibly naive in supporting Bush's administration, which really wasn't in it for such idealistic reasons, but he pulled no punches in criticising the American Christian right.
    I agree.

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    Despite being a leftist, Hitchens was an intellectual, an amazing feat in and of itself. Many of his arguments were compelling and thought provoking, although in many cases incorrect ultimately. He had some really good debates about the God thing. I should post the transcripts. RIP.

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    Despite being a leftist
    WTF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GanjaFreebird View Post
    WTF?
    Oh, didn't you hear? There are no leftist intellectuals.
    Show us not the aim without the way, for ends and means on earth are so entangled
    That changing one, you change the other too; each different path brings other ends in view

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    Hitchens was a lot of things, but a "leftist" he sure wasn't, unless anybody who doesn't believe in God is a "leftist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GanjaFreebird View Post
    Hitchens was a lot of things, but a "leftist" he sure wasn't, unless anybody who doesn't believe in God is a "leftist.
    He started out as one
    In the 1960s Hitchens joined the political left, drawn by his anger over the Vietnam War, nuclear weapons, racism, and "oligarchy", including that of "the unaccountable corporation". He would express affinity with the politically charged countercultural and protest movements of the 1960s and 1970s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Notalibtard View Post
    He started out as one
    So did Michael Savage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GanjaFreebird View Post
    So did Michael Savage.
    They both realized the error of thier ways.
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    In his final interview with Jeremy Paxman he described himself as left-wing. His only regret, he said, was not being hard enough on Mugabe in the 1980s.
    Show us not the aim without the way, for ends and means on earth are so entangled
    That changing one, you change the other too; each different path brings other ends in view

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    He was pretty left wing, yet hawkish and extremely critical of liberals. Really interesting guy.
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    That kinda makes Foxnews the only channel worth watching.

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