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    Physicists find 'tantalizing hints' of Higgs boson 'God particle'

    Physicists announced Tuesday that they had detected "tantalizing hints," but not definitive proof, of the long-sought Higgs boson, the so-called God particle that is crucial to physicists' understanding of why mass exists in the universe.

    Two large teams of scientists based at the Large Hadron Collider near Geneva separately saw what they believe are telltale tracks of the maddeningly elusive particle in the aftermath of about 400 trillion proton collisions carried out since January.

    Neither group had solid enough evidence to announce an official discovery, they reported. But the fact that both teams generated similar results — and that those results were in good alignment with the predictions of theoretical physicists — indicated that scientists may be closing in on the Higgs at last.
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    Here is a video to put some more context into this phenomenon:




    I must say I will get suspicious if they finally "discover" the particle in three years time as that would be the 50th anniversary of when the theory was first proposed.

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    They've had "hints" for a long time, which is one of the reasons they are trying so hard to find it.


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    My ass. Let's see something conclusive. I thought that was the whole point of that Haldron fag smasher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 86Dùde View Post
    My ass. Let's see something conclusive. I thought that was the whole point of that Haldron fag smasher.
    ...Yet you have no problem believing in ghosts despite ZERO conclusive evidence. Not very consistent with your beliefs, are you?

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    Zero conclusive evidence. Dude, you have no idea what you're saying. You'd piss your pants and run to mommy if you'd seen some of things I've seen.

    I don't have a problem with the "god" particle, but if science is going to be science it needs to put up or shut up. I'm relatively certain that that is the entire point.

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    I certainly wouldn't "piss my pants" if I saw some of your hallucinations. Ghosts aren't real, dude. Grow up. What are you, 5 years old? Still believing in ghosts? That's embarrassing.

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    You need some meds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 86Dùde View Post
    You need some meds.

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    Seeing is believing and if I'm crazy then so are millions of others who have seen similar shit. I don't expect you to believe it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by optimus View Post
    I hate to say it but that was actually funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Notalibtard View Post
    I hate to say it but that was actually funny.
    It's funny cause Opti is more scary living than dead!

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    Quote Originally Posted by optimus View Post
    I certainly wouldn't "piss my pants" if I saw some of your hallucinations. Ghosts aren't real, dude. Grow up. What are you, 5 years old? Still believing in ghosts? That's embarrassing.
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    What presidents have seen Bigfoot, witches, and UFOs? Here's a look at the close encounters reported by Theodore Roosevelt, Andrew Jackson, and Thomas Jefferson:
    Theodore Roosevelt and Bigfoot

    Avid hunter and outdoorsman Theodore Roosevelt recorded a possible Bigfoot encounter in his 1893 book "The Wilderness Hunter". It wasn't Theodore Roosevelt himself that encountered the beast, but a fur trapper named Bauman. Despite his outrageous tale, Theodore Roosevelt notes that he felt Bauman really believed the tale he was telling due to the way he shuddered at some points during his story.

    The event occurred near the Salmon River in Idaho where Bauman and his partner had decided to move from the place where they were trapping to a very wild and lonely pass in hopes of having better luck there. The two were a bit uneasy about trapping at the pass, however, since they'd heard a report that the half-eaten remains of a hunter had been found there a year before. But they concluded that there was plenty of game to be found there, and set up camp anyway.

    After heading upstream and returning to camp later, the trappers were surprised t to find that something had ransacked their camp. Of course they assumed it was a bear and began tidying everything back up. However, Bauman's companion later examined the footprints the supposed bear had left, remarking that the creature had been walking on two legs. They investigated them further, pondering over whether or not the creature had actually been a human. They came to the conclusion that it was not, and tried to go to sleep for the night.

    Late that night, Bauman was awakened by a noise and the strong smell of a wild beast. He saw a creature lurking in the shadows and fired at it, causing it to flee back into the woods. They didn't sleep well after the event, but left camp again the next morning to check their traps.

    When they returned, their camp had again been destroyed by something. The creature left footprints again, and the men were certain it had to be walking on two legs after examining them once more. That night they heard the creature rustling in the woods surrounding their campsite, and even heard it let out a sinister-sounding, drawn-out moan. However, it never came near the camp (perhaps being wary of the men's fire). After this event, the men decided to leave the next afternoon.

    After getting the sensation that they were being followed while they checked their traps for the last time, the uneasy men returned to camp. There were still three traps to go nearby, and Bauman volunteered to go gather them up. When he returned to camp, he didn't see his companion. Instead, he found his still-warm body lying beside a nearby tree. His neck had been broken, and there were four fang marks on the throat. Bauman again spotted the two-legged creature's footprints near the body.

    And so ends the tale told to Theodore Roosevelt of a creature that sounds remarkably like a Bigfoot, Skunk Ape, Sasquatch, or whatever you like to call the mysterious bipedal humanoids that might lurk in our forests. So were the men fooled by a bear, or was the creature something still unidentified? We'll likely never know the answer, but it does make for one spooky tale of the dangers to be found in the wild (and it seems that it might have made a Bigfoot believer out of Theodore Roosevelt).

    Andrew Jackson and the Bell Witch

    Perhaps even more intriguing is the alleged encounter of Andrew Jackson with an entity known as the Bell Witch. As the story goes, a poltergeist that became known as the Bell Witch haunted John Bell and his family in the early 1800's. The entity caused quite a sensation, with reports that the disembodied female voice would carry on conversations and even shake hands with some individuals. However, it would also move objects around the home; throw dishes at the Bells; snatch food before it reached their mouths during meals; and slap and pinch the Bell children (sometimes even poking them with needles!). The belief seems to be that the spirit was that of Kate Batts, a mean-spirited neighbor of the Bells who felt that John Bell had cheated her in a land purchase.

    The news of the Bell Witch spread, brining plenty of visitors to the Bell home in hopes of experiencing some of the paranormal activity themselves. One such person was Nashville resident Andrew Jackson, who traveled to Adams, Tennessee to investigate.

    What allegedly happened is recorded in M. V. Ingram's 1894 book, "An Authenticated History of the Famous Bell Witch". According to the book, the General and his men loaded up a wagon and headed to Adams in hope of having a little fun. Before they got to the house, their wagon seemed to freeze in place at one point in the road. The men investigated the wheels and even took the wagon apart, but could find no reason for it to be stuck. As they continued to be perplexed by their predicament, they allegedly heard a metallic voice from the bushes say, "All right General, let the wagon move on, I will see you again to-night." After this, their wagon was able to move again.

    According to other versions of the story, Andrew Jackson and his men didn't let this experience deter them from visiting the Bell house, where they were slapped, pinched, and had their hair pulled by the Bell Witch. The men had enough by the next morning, with the witch getting the brave general to retreat back to from whence he came.
    So is there any truth to this tale? Of course it's hard to say so long after the fact, but it is fun to think that a president encountered a real-life witch/ghost in the past (hopefully Christine O'Donnell's dabbling didn't pay off like that of Kate Batts).

    Thomas Jefferson and a UFO

    In 1894, a notice that appeared in "Transactions of the American Philosophical Society, Volume 6, Part 1" referred to a UFO sighting by none other than Thomas Jefferson, who communicated the tale to the society.

    The sighting took place on April 5, 1800 in Baton Rouge. The UFO was described as being the size of house, about 70 or 80 feet long, luminous and crimson red in color, and moving extremely rapidly over the heads of the spectators that witnessed it. Thomas Jefferson described the UFO as emitting a light resembling sunbeams that hit the surface of the Earth, and stated that some heat was also felt as it passed over. The object crashed in the woods, causing what felt like a "very sensible earthquake".

    Upon investigation of the crash site, it was discovered that a large part of the ground where it landed was broken up and some of the vegetation scorched, but there's no report on any findings of a meteor or any other body at the crash site.

    So did Thomas Jefferson witness a UFO crash landing, or a meteor hitting the Earth? It's very odd that there's no description of something being found at the crash site, but perhaps the UFO crashed and then took off again, or the meteor broke up or vaporized so that it couldn't be identified. Whatever the case, Jimmy Carter might be glad to know that he is not alone!

    The Ghosts of the White House

    While some Presidents have experienced the unknown first hand, there's one President rumored to be a part of the paranormal himself. One of the many ghosts believed to haunt the White House is that of Abraham Lincoln. It would make sense for Abraham Lincoln to haunt the White House as a ghost; after all, he and his wife Mary Todd reportedly held many séances there in hopes of contacting their deceased son. After Lincoln's death, Mary Todd tried to contact her husband's spirit through séances, and thought she succeeded in doing so. There's even a spooky picture (although it's probably a double exposure) that shows an Abraham Lincoln-like ghostly figure. Calvin Coolidge's wife was the first to reportedly see Abraham Lincoln's ghost standing in a window in the oval office, and Winston Churchill allegedly spied him while getting out of the tub in the Lincoln bedroom. Other ghosts rumored to haunt the White House are a demon cat (supposedly an omen that something terrible is about to occur); a menacing British soldier; Andrew Jackson; and Abigail Adams. Unfortunately, while the White House seems to be a hotbed of paranormal activity, it's doubtful that the TAPS team will get to visit anytime soon.

    So if anyone ever laughs at your own close encounter, now you can counter with tales of how some of the most powerful men in the world have come in contact with the unknown.

    SOURCES:

    http://bigfootsightings.org/2008/05/...bigfoot-story/
    http://paranormal.about.com/od/trueg...aa041706_2.htm
    http://www.uforadar.com/2010/12/requ...mas-jefferson/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter_UFO_incident
    http://www.haunted-places.com/WhiteHouseGhosts.htm

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    can we all agree that referring to the Higgs Boson particle as the "God particle" is a needless exaggeration designed to make the whole phenomenon more "appetizing" and needlessly adds even more controversy between those that largely believe in science and those who feel that we place too much faith in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by optimus View Post
    I certainly wouldn't "piss my pants" if I saw some of your hallucinations. Ghosts aren't real, dude. Grow up. What are you, 5 years old? Still believing in ghosts? That's embarrassing.
    George Washington's connection to the paranormal was a prophetic vision he had for the future of the United States
    As the first president of the United States, the entire future of the nation lay before him. Washington, in fact, had a prophetic vision of America's fate during the harsh winter of 1777 after retreating to Valley Forge. The prophecy was eventually written down by writer Wesley Bradshaw and is said to foretell of three great perils that would befall the republic. Here are excerpts from that published vision as Washington related it:

    I do not know whether it is owing to the anxiety of my mind, but this afternoon, as I was sitting at this table engaged in preparing a dispatch, something in the apartment seemed to disturb me. Looking up, I beheld standing opposite me a singularly beautiful being. So astonished was I... that it was some moments before I found language to inquire the cause of the visit. A second, third, and even a fourth time did I repeat my question, but received no answer from my mysterious visitor except a slight raising of the eyes.

    Gradually, the surrounding atmosphere seemed to fill with sensations and grew luminous. Everything about me seemed to rarify, the mysterious visitor also becoming more airy and yet more distinct to my sight than before.

    THE FIRST PERIL

    Presently, I heard a voice saying, "Son of the Republic, look and learn," while at the same time my visitor extended an arm eastward. I beheld a dark, shadowy being, like an angel, standing, or rather floating in mid-air between Europe and America. Dipping water out of the ocean in the hollow of each hand, he sprinkled some upon America with his right hand, while with his left he cast some over Europe. Immediately, a cloud arose from these countries and joined in mid-ocean... then it moved slowly westward until it enveloped America in its murky folds. Sharp flashes of lightning gleamed through... and I heard the smothered groans and cries of the American people.
    Some have interpreted this as a vision of the Revolutionary War, then taking place.

    THE SECOND PERIL

    A second time the angel dipped water from the ocean and sprinkled it out as before. I cast my eyes upon America and beheld villages and towns and cities springing up one after another until the whole land from the Atlantic to the Pacific was dotted with them. From Africa I saw an ill-omened specter approach our land. The inhabitants presently set themselves in battle array against each other. I saw a bright angel on whose brow rested a crown of light on which was traced the word "UNION." He was bearing the American flag. He placed the flag between the divided nation and said, "Remember, ye are brethren."
    This could obviously be interpreted as The Civil War.

    THE THIRD PERIL

    The dark, shadowy angel placed a trumpet to his mouth, and blew three distinct blasts; and taking water from the ocean, he sprinkled it upon Europe, Asia and Africa. Then my eyes beheld a fearful scene. From each of these continents arose thick black clouds that were soon joined into one. And throughout this mass there gleamed a dark red light by which I saw hordes of armed men. These men, moving with the cloud, marched by land and sailed by sea to America, which country was enveloped in the volume of cloud. And I dimly saw these vast armies devastate the whole country and burn the villages, towns and cities which I had seen springing up.
    As my ears listened to the thundering of the cannon, clashing of the swords, and the shouts and cries of millions in mortal combat, I again heard the mysterious voice saying, "Son of the Republic, look and learn." Where the voice had ceased, the dark shadowy angel placed his trumpet once more to his mouth, and blew a long and fearful blast. Instantly a light as of a thousand suns shone down from above me, and pierced and broke into fragments the dark cloud which enveloped America. At the same moment the angel upon whose head still shown the word UNION, and who bore our national flag in one hand, and a sword in the other, descended from the heavens attended by, legions of white spirits. These immediately joined the inhabitants of America, who I perceived were well-nigh overcome, but who immediately taking courage again, closed up their broken ranks and renewed the battle.

    Again, amid the fearful noise of the conflict I heard the mysterious voice saying, "Son of the Republic, look and learn." As the voice ceased, the shadowy angel for the last time dipped water from the ocean and sprinkled it upon America. Instantly the dark cloud rolled back, together with the armies it had brought, leaving the inhabitants of the land victorious."

    Is this a prophecy of things yet to come for the U.S.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by optimus View Post
    I certainly wouldn't "piss my pants" if I saw some of your hallucinations. Ghosts aren't real, dude. Grow up. What are you, 5 years old? Still believing in ghosts? That's embarrassing.
    The above two posts were by people who were not five years old when they had expirences.

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    So there is a particle that acts as fill for the rest of the universe, why does this surprise anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SivVulk View Post
    can we all agree that referring to the Higgs Boson particle as the "God particle" is a needless exaggeration designed to make the whole phenomenon more "appetizing" and needlessly adds even more controversy between those that largely believe in science and those who feel that we place too much faith in it.
    You are right. Another label woud be better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SivVulk View Post
    can we all agree that referring to the Higgs Boson particle as the "God particle" is a needless exaggeration designed to make the whole phenomenon more "appetizing" and needlessly adds even more controversy between those that largely believe in science and those who feel that we place too much faith in it.
    Yes.


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    What other names would you suggest? I vote for the Dick Tator Particle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by queenlillian1962 View Post
    What other names would you suggest? I vote for the Dick Tator Particle.
    It has a name already. The Higgs-Boson, or simply the Higgs.


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