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    Did Jesus ever say its ok to kill someone because you can get good results by doing so?

    The title is from Cd.'s signature. To him, I submit this:

    But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.'" Luke 19:27

    Now, I know that he isn't speaking of himself and it's a parable, but it doesn't change the fact that it's highly unlikely that Jesus would use sin in a positive manner to prove a point. That would be like him saying that you must forcibly impregnate non-believers with the seed of religiousness like you would forcibly impregnate the women you rape.

    I would also like to mention the parable of the 10 virgins and the bridegroom... Sounds like a Christian endorsement of multiple wives and group sex to me...

    Now let the groom enjoy his night with the 5 virgins that actually found their way to his chamber!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick Tator View Post
    I would also like to mention the parable of the 10 virgins and the bridegroom... Sounds like a Christian endorsement of multiple wives and group sex to me...

    Now let the groom enjoy his night with the 5 virgins that actually found their way to his chamber!
    I think you need to go back and actually read that whole parable, Dick. Those virgins were going to the wedding, not to an orgy or to be in a harem. There's no endorsement of multiple wives or group sex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hadit View Post
    I think you need to go back and actually read that whole parable, Dick. Those virgins were going to the wedding, not to an orgy or to be in a harem. There's no endorsement of multiple wives or group sex.
    Yes, yes... because groups virgins ALWAYS meet the bridesgroom at Midnight for reasons other than intercourse...

    It sounds like a consummation to me... The foolish virgins arrived late after the door was shut and the consummation began..

    Granted, me personally, I would have gladly opened the door for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick Tator View Post
    Yes, yes... because groups virgins ALWAYS meet the bridesgroom at Midnight for reasons other than intercourse...

    It sounds like a consummation to me... The foolish virgins arrived late after the door was shut and the consummation began..

    Granted, me personally, I would have gladly opened the door for them.
    It was a Jewish custom. The groom would go off to build their house, and when his father said it was done, he and his boys would go to get the bride and her girls and they would have the big wedding feast. No one ever knew when that would be, day or night. Obviously, in this parable, word got out that the groom was on his way and the virgins were waiting to join the party. Of course then, once the door was locked, you didn't get in. No hanky-panky was involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hadit View Post
    It was a Jewish custom. The groom would go off to build their house, and when his father said it was done, he and his boys would go to get the bride and her girls and they would have the big wedding feast. No one ever knew when that would be, day or night. Obviously, in this parable, word got out that the groom was on his way and the virgins were waiting to join the party. Of course then, once the door was locked, you didn't get in. No hanky-panky was involved.
    And Song of Songs isn't word porn...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick Tator View Post
    And Song of Songs isn't word porn...
    Oh, that is. It's an erotic love poem between two lovers. Nothing wrong with married sex. Not the same thing as advocating orgies, however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hadit View Post
    Oh, that is. It's an erotic love poem between two lovers. Nothing wrong with married sex. Not the same thing as advocating orgies, however.
    But what if the orgy is with only wives? I mean... how many wives and concubines did the wisest man in the OT have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick Tator View Post
    But what if the orgy is with only wives? I mean... how many wives and concubines did the wisest man in the OT have?
    A heck of a lot, and if you know Scripture, they led him into idolatry. Hardly blessed by God. There things that God doesn't like, but tolerates, such as divorce. Regardless, I don't see Biblical support for polygamy in the Church.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hadit View Post
    There things that God doesn't like, but tolerates, such as divorce.
    So you don't think he might tolerate having a harem of wives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlbertJ View Post
    DT has been schooled.
    Not really. They often had multiple wives back in the day and it was never once condemned. If something common isn't outright condemned, it is sanctioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick Tator View Post
    Not really. They often had multiple wives back in the day and it was never once condemned. If something common isn't outright condemned, it is sanctioned.
    Your 25% is showing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick Tator View Post
    Not really. They often had multiple wives back in the day and it was never once condemned. If something common isn't outright condemned, it is sanctioned.
    Not so. I point you again to God's position on divorce. He hates it, but tolerates it. It's hardly sanctioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hadit View Post
    Not so. I point you again to God's position on divorce. He hates it, but tolerates it. It's hardly sanctioned.
    Are you suggesting that God is either wishy-washy or inabsolute?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick Tator View Post
    So you don't think he might tolerate having a harem of wives?
    Jesus is on the sideline for my post (no disrepect).

    I wouldn't be able to tolerate having a harem of wives. 1 is plenty and how those fundamentalist Mormons handle 2 or 9 wives is beyond a mystery to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick Tator View Post
    Are you suggesting that God is either wishy-washy or inabsolute?
    On the subject of divorce, the Word is clear. He hates it but tolerates it. That doesn't impact the other things that ARE absolute. Of course that means that if I really want to honor God with my life, I'm going to honor my wife.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hadit View Post
    On the subject of divorce, the Word is clear. He hates it but tolerates it. That doesn't impact the other things that ARE absolute. Of course that means that if I really want to honor God with my life, I'm going to honor my wife.
    Should gay people divorce, then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick Tator View Post
    Should gay people divorce, then?
    They can't. They're not married. Now if you mean should a gay man divorce his female wife, no, not unless she's committing adultery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hadit View Post
    They can't. They're not married.
    Why are they not?

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