Reply With QuoteYou're an idiot.
Exactly! You finally got one right!
When will the world learn that a million men are of no importance compared with one man? [Henry David Thoreau]
You're an idiot.
By not mentioning it.Originally Posted by Cyclone Ranger
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
It does mention it, in the general welfare and necessary & proper clauses
No it doesn't. The Supreme Court has NEVER held that those clauses guarantee everyone a job. They therefore don't apply.
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
For those who wish to have a paycheck and/or other benefits, providing they return a fair share of labor in return, there are cooperatives and other worker-run operations. The trade-off is usually lower pay than capitalist-employers provide. Capitalists are least willing, nor are they as able to provide jobs, as a "right" in that sense.
Currently, the underemployment rate is well over 15%, and if we speculate on another 10% who have FT jobs but would readily bail out of working in the capitalist sector, that would put the potential collective work force at around 25%. Of course, if enough people make effort to go the cooperative route in order to ensure full employment, it would mean the end of capitalism as we know it.
Who knows? That might make both the socialist and capitalist portions of our economy more healthy. Capitalists would be competing for labor once again, while socialists would have to offer better conditions to worker-owners to keep them from bolting to a position in the capitalist sector. I was richly rewarded for my work in the socialist sector, as I am partially retired at 53 years of age. While my final average salary was perhaps 25% less than what I could have made in the capistalist sector, my public pension plan was much more secure (and generous with time) than most plans in the for-profit sector.
That just means they haven't said it yet. There's plenty of time.
Freedom = Prosperity, communist.
When will the world learn that a million men are of no importance compared with one man? [Henry David Thoreau]
No, Freedom = slavery in your world, dumbass.
Cd. (10-15-2011)
Hey! Don't steal my word! Dumbass.
I represent the angry, gun toting meat eating people. ~ Denis Leary
The same shepherd that protects the flock leads them to the slaughterhouse.
I would never call you anything but dumbass, dumbass.
jwreck (10-13-2011)
It only fails to apply if the high court strikes it down. In our system of law, everything not forbidden is allowed, and nothing in the Constitution forbids it. Until Congress passes a law establishing the right to a job, the SCOTUS can't direct us on the issue.
I can't wait for congress to pass a law and the SCOTUS to uphold that law to force liberals to take and hold a job.
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I WILL NOT INSULT YOUR INTELLIGENCE BUT YOUR LACK OF INTELLECT IS FAIR GAME
Remember the axiom of big government bureaucrats: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. When, finally, under the crushing weight of taxes and regulation, it stops moving, subsidize it. Going Postal
Goddam right a Job is a Right!
You need a job to live, at least in this Capitalist Piggy Pig society.
And we have a right to live.
Thus a job is a goddam right.
And if you cannot get a job in the private sector than the fucking government ought to give you one!
Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.
Abraham Lincoln
Cyclone Ranger (10-15-2011)
So you think its governments job to give everyone jobs?
Wow, I never thought you too would become a progressive. Welcome to the human race!
Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.
Abraham Lincoln
Whats the difference between your job and your wife?
After ten years your job still sucks!
Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.
Abraham Lincoln
Dick Tator (10-15-2011)
I believe you are a little short of the skill of reading among other things.So you think its governments job to give everyone jobs?
Wow, I never thought you too would become a progressive. Welcome to the human race!
I WILL NOT INSULT YOUR INTELLIGENCE BUT YOUR LACK OF INTELLECT IS FAIR GAME
Remember the axiom of big government bureaucrats: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. When, finally, under the crushing weight of taxes and regulation, it stops moving, subsidize it. Going Postal
Which is perverse, as the language of the Constitution makes it clear that, as far as the Federal government is concerned, what is not allowed is forbidden.
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
Freedom&Liberty (10-18-2011)
And they can just as easily rule the other way and we can all be happy.
The ambassador died, Obama lied.
It isn't forbidden until judicial review says so.
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