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    Robbie Regennitter, a registered medical marijuana patient, was stunned to learn of a memo sent out by the ATF stating that it is illegal for him to possess firearms or ammunition.

    Regennitter says he ingests approximately 10-20 milligrams of THC — the active compound in marijuana — each night before bed to ease the painful symptoms of gastroesophageal reflux disease and an esophagus condition.

    Regennitter is also a hunter and gun owner. According to a new memo from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, it is illegal for him or any registered medical-marijuana patient to own or possess firearms or ammunition.

    The letter written last week by ATF Assistant Director Arthur Herbert to all federal firearms licensees gave them guidance on what to do if a firearms customer reveals that he or she is a medical-marijuana patient.

    According to the letter, "any person who uses or is addicted to marijuana, regardless of whether his or her state has passed legislation authorizing marijuana use for medicinal purposes, is an unlawful user of or addicted to a controlled substance, and is prohibited by federal law from possessing firearms or ammunition."

    Regennitter said he was stunned when he learned about the memo.

    "At the moment it concerns me, but I'm not going to stop taking medical marijuana, and I'm not going to give up my firearms," Regennitter said. "I don't use (THC) recreationally. I use it because it helps me."

    Jon Svaren, a 15-year Navy veteran who was honorably discharged in 2009, is a medical-marijuana patient who is recovering from a surgery last November to repair a severe injury to his back.
    Svaren is also a gun owner who hunts and uses guns on the farm to control vermin.

    "To take away my Second Amendment rights is contrary to everything I've ever fought for and contrary to every oath of enlistment I've taken," Svaren said.

    Gun rights and medical-marijuana advocates both expressed outrage over the letter, which they say singles out a specific group of citizens and attempts to strip them of their Second Amendment rights.

    "The cannabis issue has become representative of nationwide concerns," said Kate Cholewa, a board member of the Montana Cannabis Industry Association. "Citizens are increasingly concerned that the government, rather than expressing the will of the citizens, now sees itself as separate from the citizens and is imposing their will upon the people."

    Sixteen states and the District of Columbia have passed laws legalizing marijuana for certain medical conditions, but the federal government classifies the drug as a schedule 1 controlled substance and thus illegal for any use.

    According to ATF spokesman Drew Wade, the Herbert letter was intended to provide guidance to federally licensed firearms dealers in complying with federal firearms laws and was not intended to speak to consumers of medical marijuana.

    "We received a number of questions from federal firearms licensees and gun dealers on (medical-marijuana patients), and we felt we needed to provide some clarity so they can be in compliance with the laws," Wade said.

    Officials for the National Rifle Association did not return calls seeking comment, and Larry Pratt, executive director for Gun Owners of America, declined to comment.

    "I can tell you why a lot of organizations won't talk about it: marijuana is a lightning-rod subject," said Dave Workman, senior editor at Gun Week, a twice-monthly newspaper that covers legislative and regulatory issues related to guns.

    "The media — and the gun prohibitionist lobby in particular — would say the gun lobby wants to arm drug addicts," he said.

    Gary Marbut, president of the Montana Shooting Sports Association, did weigh in, saying his organization believes "it is more than unfortunate when a constitutional right, the right to bear arms, that people have reserved to themselves from government interference, is arbitrarily taken away by what many see as an overbearing and overintrusive federal government."
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    More federal bullying. These fuckers are unreal.


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    Dope, alcohol, and guns are a bad combination.

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    Maybe crack, meth and heroin are a bad combination with guns, but weed?

    I just envision someone who sparked a doobie being too mellow to care about going out and busting a cap in someone. All they want is some Twinkies and a nap.
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    Would you fly if you knew the pilot was on weed?

    If not, why run around with your fellow hunter who's on weed and has a gun?

    Common sense.

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    I probably have done just that, or flown with a drunk pilot.

    I just don't get all worked up about weed. To me hunting with someone on weed is about the same as hunting with someone who is drinking. I would prefer them not to do either, but to me the risk is the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkly Mary View Post
    I probably have done just that, or flown with a drunk pilot.

    I just don't get all worked up about weed. To me hunting with someone on weed is about the same as hunting with someone who is drinking. I would prefer them not to do either, but to me the risk is the same.
    I don't get worked up about weed either. But weed and guns, or alcohol and guns isn't a good cocktail.

    Some people have no common sense.

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    True, some people have no common sense.

    For those people, they don't need weed, booze OR guns, much less a combination of the three. On that we agree. But if I "had" to choose, I'd rather weed than booze mixed with guns, although I don't hunt so that scenario is unlikely for me. But that's must me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamnYankee View Post
    Dope, alcohol, and guns are a bad combination.
    1. Not the point. People who use alcohol are not banned. People who have a script for painn pills are not banned.
    2. This is just the feds trying to bully the states.
    3. Lots of things that are a bad idea are not illegal.

    I can't believe you are actually defending this.


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    PS The Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jwreck View Post
    I can't believe you are actually defending this.
    See post #2.

    I wasn't defending anything. I merely stated, being in possession of firearms while being loaded on drugs/alcohol isn't good.

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    Fair enough.


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    Incidentally, I have gastroesophageal reflux disease myself and I take Omeprazole, the same drug found in Prilosec. There are other drugs that can be taken as well. And, I had painful back surgery 19 years ago. There isn't a day that goes by where I'm not in some pain. For that, if it gets too bad, I take Ibprofen.

    Sometimes, not always, I think these people use excuses to obtain medical marihoochie scripts so they can get stoned whenever they want without the possibility of being arrested.

    I don't care if marihoochie is legalized or not. I don't need and I don't want it but those that support legalization need to come clean and just say "we want to get stoned, screw medical conditions." I'd be fully behind them.

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    When you drink alcohol your reasoning ability is taken away since you put the logic side of your brain to sleep. I'm not sure about THC, but it's not a sedative. In any even the ATF and everyone one in it should be executed, bled out and left in a ditch.

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