Obama looks even MORE stupid than usual....

[Dick Tator]

God he looks like a fucking cartoon character up there with all the other world leaders.. And people thought Bush was embarrassing...

[jwreck]

[Dick Tator]

I posted one. Did it not show? Or are you taking it literal in the fact that if I hadn't posted a pic the thread loses it's touch?

http://nation.foxnews.com/sites/nati...ma_UN_wave.jpg

[jwreck]

No its a little blue box with a question mark.

[Dick Tator]

No its a little blue box with a question mark.

Try this one... http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isc...35l668l6.2l8l0

Or maybe this will actually post.

[optimus]

Almost looks chopped.

[Guido]

He looked stupid because the position he's allowed himself to occupy is stupid: He's the leader of the world's most powerful country, talking to the world from the perspective of some whose petty desire to win a domestic election forces him to repudiate not only his own publically announced beliefs and ideals, but also his own country's official policy, common sense, consensus world opinion and America's future as a world power, all the while embracing and sucking up to a universally despised, far right wing government thousands of miles from Washington DC that has relished in humiliating Barack Obama, not once, but repeatedly -- all because he lacks the spine to stand up to a foreign lobby group.

He understands that the US' lonely support for Israel and the inevitable US veto of the Palestinians' bid for full UN membership will undermine, perhaps terminally, the US position in a democratising Middle East, and will expose the US' nominal support for popular Arab rights as a fraud, inflicting serious long term damage on his own country, but he has no choice in the matter, because any other path would surely annoy the lobby group and endanger his reelection prospects.

It's quite impossible not to look stupid when you're trying to project authority while your head is wedged into someone's rectum.

[GanjaFreebird]

Guido, so how did you like President Obama's latest speech about Israel?

And do you agree with myself and most Israeli politicians (right-wing and left wing, from Liberman to Barak) that he's a true friend of Israel?

[Guido]

Guido, so how did you like President Obama's latest speech about Israel?

And do you agree with myself and most Israeli politicians (right-wing and left wing, from Liberman to Barak) that he's a true friend of Israel?

As an American, I am of course ashamed and embarrassed, but I don't really expect much from politicians in any event.

As a person who lives in the world, however, I am pleased that thanks to Obama's abdication speech, we can stop pretending that the United States has any meaningful role to play in resolving the conflict in the Middle East or in advancing the cause of democracy in various Arab countries, that the "peace process" is anything other than a charade. Perhaps some other country can step up and fill the leadership void, but in any case, there is reason to expect that events will take a more constructive course with America on the sidelines.

[GanjaFreebird]

As an American, I am of course ashamed and embarrassed, but I don't really expect much from politicians in any event.

So do you agree that Obama is a great friend (at least politically) of Israel then?

As a person who lives in the world, however, I am pleased that thanks to Obama's abdication speech, we can stop pretending that the United States has any meaningful role to play in resolving the conflict in the Middle East or in advancing the cause of democracy in various Arab countries, that the "peace process" is anything other than a charade.

1. There's a difference between the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and other problems in other Arab countries. One can easily support advancing the democracy in Arab countries, while still siding with Israel as far as their conflict with the Palestinians is concerned.

2. It's not Obama's fault that the Palestinians refused to keep negotiating and getting their state the right way.

Perhaps some other country can step up and fill the leadership void, but in any case, there is reason to expect that events will take a more constructive course with America on the sidelines.

Ain't happening, because America is too powerful and too involoved in the conflict to let anybody else take over. Besides, nobody else could possibly pressure Israel to do ANYTHING or to not do something, as Israel gets nothing from anybody other than America, therefore, unless you believe that China or Russia would threaten to go to war against Israel over the Palestinians, your idea is pretty much impossible.

If America decides to give up and just continue friendship with Israel without any kind of pressure about the Palestinians and the peace process, it would probably be the best thing to ever happen for Israeli right-wingers, as no other country has the ability to pressure Israel to that extent.

[Guido]

So do you agree that Obama is a great friend (at least politically) of Israel then?

I don't agree or disagree. I don't care. Obama is a total failure, a zero. He's irrelevant and almost certainly won't be re-elected. If the Democrats had any brains, they'd send him back to Chicago and nominate Hillary Clinton before it's too late.

[GanjaFreebird]

I don't agree or disagree. I don't care. Obama is a total failure, a zero. He's irrelevant and almost certainly won't be re-elected.

And a Republican gov't will sure be much better for the Palestinians...NOT. In fact, they still claim that Obama isn't "pro-Israel enough", even after his speech, so apparently they are even "more Zionist" than Avigdor Liberman. Having said that, I think Obama will be re-elected, but we'll have to see.

If the Democrats had any brains, they'd send him back to Chicago and nominate Hillary Clinton before it's too late.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a few years ago, you didn't seem to be a big Hillary Clinton fan, and in fact, you were very critical of TT for supporting her over Obama. What happened? Are you becoming more moderate/conservative as you get older?

[Guido]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a few years ago, you didn't seem to be a big Hillary Clinton fan, and in fact, you were very critical of TT for supporting her over Obama. What happened? Are you becoming more moderate/conservative as you get older?

When I say "if the Democrats had any brains, they'd nominate HC," that doesn't mean I am a HC fan. It's my evaluation of their chances of success. I'm not a Democrat and I don't really care.

[hadit]

Obama is a total failure, a zero. He's irrelevant and almost certainly won't be re-elected. If the Democrats had any brains, they'd send him back to Chicago and nominate Hillary Clinton before it's too late.

That is very likely true.

[Dick Tator]

Almost looks chopped.

I was thinking the same thing, but it's been carried by several news agencies and they wouldn't suggest that false images were real, would they?

[big steve]

I believe the R nominee would beat the pants off Hillary! (And what a ghastly sight that would be!)lol

[86Dùde]

Another thread derailed into a jew thread.

[GanjaFreebird]

When I say "if the Democrats had any brains, they'd nominate HC," that doesn't mean I am a HC fan. It's my evaluation of their chances of success. I'm not a Democrat and I don't really care.

I understand, but I'm still not sure what makes HC much different from Obama politically.

[Notalibtard]

Try this one... http://www.google.com/search?tbm=isc...35l668l6.2l8l0

Or maybe this will actually post.

Is he jap slapping that asian behind him?

[Dick Tator]

I understand, but I'm still not sure what makes HC much different from Obama politically.

She's not as ignorant nor as extreme. I think that even if she pushed for a healthcare bill (something she supports) the final product would have been much less horrid that what we have now. However Hillary understands that the economy comes first and would have likely done whatever she could to get jobs and businesses to return to the US. Some of her ideas I'm sure I wouldn't have agreed with, but I could easily see here doing something like a tax amnesty for all the businesses and people who have money overseas and won't bring it here to invest because of the tax burden. Ultimately she knows that in order to keep liberal social programs open we would need a strong economy and that might have to include some concessions to Republicans. I think Hillary's legacy, had she won in 2008, would have been saving Social Security and Medicare through compromise.

Instead we've got the Idiot in Chief.