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    Quote Originally Posted by 9ball8 View Post
    So you would support ending all welfare for corporations as well as other individuals?
    Aha so that's where you were going with that. Yes, I'd support getting rid of tax loopholes for corporations. I just did a paper on SW airlines... they paid about 3% in taxes in 2009 (more or less). That's unreal and it's not that unusual for large corporations. So yes, corporations should pay their fair share in taxes, but not the ridiculously high percentages I've seen some post here. Ditto on the super rich. Cut out all the tax loopholes, keep it simple, but also have tax incentives for businesses to keep jobs here.

    Also I did not say get rid of welfare for the poor. Welfare needs some serious fixing and the way it is now, it keeps people at the poverty level w/ no chance of improvement. I've given a few possible solutions. However, some people here throw a fit if you suggest that people on welfare should aspire for more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwreck View Post
    I don't have a clue WTF I'm talking about but love to talk out of my ass
    Like some other people here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lulu View Post
    ?? I am down on GE and Google? When did I say that?

    My post was in response to FM saying more money helps. He is under the misconception that our welfare system works.
    ive repeatedly said it doesn't work-it does feed some of the kids-you losers want the govt to revolve around you and not ever have to pay taxes?
    and jw you pathetic no good-is it better that have people i care about or is it better that you have people you hate youre talking out your ass about? fucking latchkey bitch-you and lulu should get married
    tired of your extremism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice Pick View Post
    Like some other people here.
    Brilliant observation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fat mike View Post
    ive repeatedly said it doesn't work-it does feed some of the kids-you losers want the govt to revolve around you and not ever have to pay taxes?
    and jw you pathetic no good-is it better that have people i care about or is it better that you have people you hate youre talking out your ass about? fucking latchkey bitch-you and lulu should get married

    Awwww, did I strike a nerve?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jwreck View Post

    Awwww, did I strike a nerve?
    I doubt it because you're too predictable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fat mike View Post
    ive repeatedly said it doesn't work-it does feed some of the kids-you losers want the govt to revolve around you and not ever have to pay taxes?
    and jw you pathetic no good-is it better that have people i care about or is it better that you have people you hate youre talking out your ass about? fucking latchkey bitch-you and lulu should get married
    pffft... another fit from you just like I was saying. Who says I don't pay taxes? I'm sure I've paid more in the past 2 years for taxes than you've paid your entire life.

    So welfare doesn't work, yet you get all nasty and angry when someone like me says it should be fixed. Grow up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice Pick View Post
    I doubt it because you're too predictable.
    I thought you were leaving forever?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jwreck View Post
    I thought you were leaving forever?
    He meant 24 hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwreck View Post
    I thought you were leaving forever?
    It's the internet, who do you care?

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    The Mafia recognized civilians for the most part. And for the most part limited the worst of their violence to each other, 9ball. They were an entirely different sort of outfit than the gangs we have today.

    Mike childhood hunger these days is overstated to at least a certain extent and happens in most cases because mommie and or daddy would rather snort that coke, or mainline meth than feed their kids. No amount of government money is going to fix that problem.

    We currently spend 52 grand a year per poor family on poverty programs. Why then do we have poor people? Because seventy percent or more of that money never comes out of the Bureaucracy once it enters. If I give neighbor for neighbor 10 bucks 1 dollar goes to administration and 9 goes to buy food for the poor. Give the same ten bucks to the government at least seven of it goes to administration and three winds up in the hands of some poor person in the form of food clothing and shelter and not infrequently gets spent on drugs.
    Annoy a leftist: Think logically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lulu View Post
    pffft... another fit from you just like I was saying. Who says I don't pay taxes? I'm sure I've paid more in the past 2 years for taxes than you've paid your entire life.

    So welfare doesn't work, yet you get all nasty and angry when someone like me says it should be fixed. Grow up.
    i dindt say you didtn pay taxes- said you didn't want to...tell me to grow up again and ill find 6 more ways to misspell diint you guys are terrible plodding mediocrties-incapable of discernment or subtlety=yes youve prolly paid more in taxes than ive earned=which means youve earned many more times teh value of your labour-if you were my employee id fire you the first day-i get nasty with you becasue youre a nasty immoral person like your counterpart jw=you bitches spread disease with your indiscrimnate liaisons-you dont want to fix anythgin you want to be paid without havgi to ante up=look up "pukka saheeb"
    tired of your extremism

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    gary-chldren get fed because the programs feed them-they are useless excepfor that
    tired of your extremism

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    Quote Originally Posted by fat mike View Post
    i dindt say you didtn pay taxes- said you didn't want to...tell me to grow up again and ill find 6 more ways to misspell diint you guys are terrible plodding mediocrties-incapable of discernment or subtlety=yes youve prolly paid more in taxes than ive earned=which means youve earned many more times teh value of your labour-if you were my employee id fire you the first day-i get nasty with you becasue youre a nasty immoral person like your counterpart jw=you bitches spread disease with your indiscrimnate liaisons-you dont want to fix anythgin you want to be paid without havgi to ante up=look up "pukka saheeb"
    LOL, I hate to break this to you but there's no way you could be a manager with that atrocious grammar and spelling. People have to be able to understand you. Also you cannot fire someone just because you think they are nasty and immoral w/o some kind of proof and something to back that up... an HR dept. would have a heyday. Heck, even you haven't been fired because of your shitty personality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lulu View Post
    LOL, I hate to break this to you but there's no way you could be a manager with that atrocious grammar and spelling. People have to be able to understand you. Also you cannot fire someone just because you think they are nasty and immoral w/o some kind of proof and something to back that up... an HR dept. would have a heyday. Heck, even you haven't been fired because of your shitty personality.
    only the morons here fail to understand me..many here understand me-anyway the returns on reading your posts are tending to zero if you know any calculus and can comprehend a joke on taht level-youre an immoral person and youll do seomthgin to justify being fired..
    tired of your extremism

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    Quote Originally Posted by fat mike View Post
    only the morons here fail to understand me..many here understand me-anyway the returns on reading your posts are tending to zero if you know any calculus and can comprehend a joke on taht level-youre an immoral person and youll do seomthgin to justify being fired..
    Aw that's not very Christian of you, FM. I don't believe you really are a religious person because you act ugly all the time. Nope, 14 years with the same company. The only reason I'll be fired is if they do layoffs.

    Guess which one you are...

    http://shine.yahoo.com/event/poweryo...t-for-2559623/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lulu View Post
    Aha so that's where you were going with that. Yes, I'd support getting rid of tax loopholes for corporations. I just did a paper on SW airlines... they paid about 3% in taxes in 2009 (more or less). That's unreal and it's not that unusual for large corporations. So yes, corporations should pay their fair share in taxes, but not the ridiculously high percentages I've seen some post here. Ditto on the super rich. Cut out all the tax loopholes, keep it simple, but also have tax incentives for businesses to keep jobs here.

    Also I did not say get rid of welfare for the poor. Welfare needs some serious fixing and the way it is now, it keeps people at the poverty level w/ no chance of improvement. I've given a few possible solutions. However, some people here throw a fit if you suggest that people on welfare should aspire for more.
    That's a fair response. Welfare was cut back under Clinton -to a five year lifetime maximum if I remember correctly. No problem making it into a workfare program, as long as it doesn't morph into an indentured servitude program or isn't used by employers to lowball their competitors (by using subsidized wages). I also believe it should include schooling -certification for jobs that are in high demand.

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    Mike Kids get fed provided mommy and daddy will spend the money to do it. Google food stamp scams some time. Druggies will exchange food stamps for drugs or money to buy drugs at rediculous rates of exchange.

    9ball, there are dozens of government sponsored job training programs run by nearly that many different government agencies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lulu View Post
    Aw that's not very Christian of you, FM. I don't believe you really are a religious person because you act ugly all the time. Nope, 14 years with the same company. The only reason I'll be fired is if they do layoffs.

    Guess which one you are...

    http://shine.yahoo.com/event/poweryo...t-for-2559623/
    im not being very nice to you-im not going to start either-if i get sick of myself being a troll ill stick you on iggy=youre aways saying stuff that makes me sick

    Quote Originally Posted by garyd View Post
    Mike Kids get fed provided mommy and daddy will spend the money to do it. Google food stamp scams some time. Druggies will exchange food stamps for drugs or money to buy drugs at rediculous rates of exchange.

    9ball, there are dozens of government sponsored job training programs run by nearly that many different government agencies.
    a lot f mothers care about feeding thier kids-i know about teh druggies and the fraud and the mafia buying up food stamps=i tihnk society needs to take care of its indigents-the churchs are more concerned with building programs/the church needs to stop advocating for the rich-the rich need help like anyone else but theyre getting it all
    tired of your extremism

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    Quote Originally Posted by fat mike View Post
    im not being very nice to you-im not going to start either-if i get sick of myself being a troll ill stick you on iggy=youre aways saying stuff that makes me sick
    Is that a threat or a promise to put me on ignore?

    In general, you don't seem like a nice person. I think it's that big chip on your shoulder you carry around.

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