How do you feel when ppl call Americans the biggest terrorists ever?

[mt774]

What is your feelings when people label America as the biggest terrorists of all the world due to Hiroshima Nagasaki bombings and such?

[Dick Tator]

What is your feelings when people label America as the biggest terrorists of all the world due to Hiroshima Nagasaki bombings and such?

The bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki weren't acts of terrorism for several reasons:

1. Japan and the US were at a state of war, on that Japan started. Civilian deaths were expected in that day in age. We didn't have precision strike capabilities yet.

2. We honestly didn't realize how powerful it would be. Even though we tested it (in the middle of nowhere), it was still a shock. An act of terrorism requires intent. And while we DID intend to drop the bombs, we couldn't have intended for it to do what it did without knowledge that it would do it.

3. Dropping the bombs likely saved hundreds of thousands, if not millions of lives, both American and Japanese. A ground war in Japan would have been devastating to both sides.

4. It was clearly used as a military tactic and not used to specifically to strike fear in the civilian population.

5. Had they had the technology, they wouldn't have hesitated to use it on us. Indeed, they were doing Kamikaze attacks on US ships. They had no regard for their own lives, let alone the lives of others. If anyone had the potential to be terrorists in the Pacific WW2 Theater, it was the Japanese.

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All that being said, America IS one of the biggest terrorist nations in the world. But it would be intellectually dishonest to claim that our attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki would examples of such. Policy AFTER the attacks (likely inspired by the power the bombs gave us) lead to us being the biggest supporters and perpetrators of terrorism.

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Hungry. I feel hungry.

[mt774]

The bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki weren't acts of terrorism for several reasons:

1. Japan and the US were at a state of war, on that Japan started. Civilian deaths were expected in that day in age. We didn't have precision strike capabilities yet.

2. We honestly didn't realize how powerful it would be. Even though we tested it (in the middle of nowhere), it was still a shock. An act of terrorism requires intent. And while we DID intend to drop the bombs, we couldn't have intended for it to do what it did without knowledge that it would do it.

3. Dropping the bombs likely saved hundreds of thousands, if not millions of lives, both American and Japanese. A ground war in Japan would have been devastating to both sides.

4. It was clearly used as a military tactic and not used to specifically to strike fear in the civilian population.

5. Had they had the technology, they wouldn't have hesitated to use it on us. Indeed, they were doing Kamikaze attacks on US ships. They had no regard for their own lives, let alone the lives of others. If anyone had the potential to be terrorists in the Pacific WW2 Theater, it was the Japanese.

______

All that being said, America IS one of the biggest terrorist nations in the world. But it would be intellectually dishonest to claim that our attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki would examples of such. Policy AFTER the attacks (likely inspired by the power the bombs gave us) lead to us being the biggest supporters and perpetrators of terrorism.

Here in UK some people saying that Japan was already at defeat and therefore ready to surrender but Americans still nuke them anyway and that's why they say it terrorist act.

[Dick Tator]

Here in UK some people saying that Japan was already at defeat and therefore ready to surrender but Americans still nuke them anyway and that's why they say it terrorist act.

Well there in the UK you live in a police state and think you're free so I don't really take anything you people think seriously.

[mt774]

Well there in the UK you live in a police state and think you're free so I don't really take anything you people think seriously.

Many people here are feeling that Americans are mad bible-bashing religionists who believe that earth is 10000 years old, many young people in UK equate old Americans to people like Pat Robertson.

[Archaix]

Response to 'Dick Tator':

1. Civilian deaths were expected during WW2, but not encouraged. The Geneva Convention, although sometimes not stictly adhered to, was evidence of that. Examples of civilian focus during the conflict, such as during the allied bombing of Dresden, have been widely condemned.

2. 'We' did know: the Trinity test gave at least some indication of what would happen. And it wasn't just one bomb, it was two: the allies wanted to know whether a uranium or plutonium bomb would deliver the most devastating results.

3. The Japanese government was already engaged in peace talks. Even if these were only 'conditional', the result would have saved hundreds of thousands of lives.

4. Yes, but not only military personel died, so this is a useless argument. More to the point, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not isolated military bases or militarily strategic points, but cities.

5. This does not make such an action right. 'We' should have been 'better' than them by not considering such an indiscriminate slaughter -instead, 'we' became little better than 'them'.

[DamnYankee]

What is your feelings when people label America as the biggest terrorists of all the world...

I feel we need to stop sending them American taxpayer's money and support of any kind.

...due to Hiroshima Nagasaki bombings and such?

War's hell.

Turn the clock back. And then take all those who make that statement and put them up front in a landing craft. They can be the first wave to hit the Japanese beaches. Send them in.

I bet those idiots would change their tune and drop half dozen more bombs to save their own bacon.

[DamnYankee]

Many people here are feeling that Americans are mad bible-bashing religionists who believe that earth is 10000 years old, many young people in UK equate old Americans to people like Pat Robertson.

That's because they are fed a content diet of "hate America" while sitting to the comfort of a classroom. Old Americans are the ones that produced that which was needed to keep the UK from losing their ass to the Third Reich.

See how nice we are? Gave our lives so some stupid ass leftist snot nosed Limey can sit on his ass and blame America.

[Archaix]

See how nice we are? Gave our lives so some stupid ass leftist snot nosed Limey can sit on his ass and blame America.

mt774 didn't blame America, he just said that many young people do.

Also, nothing he said was leftist. Do you know what a leftist is? Sounds like someone's been fed a diet of bullshit while sitting outside the comfort of a classroom.

[DamnYankee]

mt774 didn't blame America...

I didn't say he did.

...he just said that many young people do.

I've seen this shit before. They're leftists. Trust me.

Also, nothing he said was leftist. Do you know what a leftist is? Sounds like someone's been fed a diet of bullshit while sitting outside the comfort of a classroom.

I've seen the same old crap argument from the left before. It's the same shit.

You know it, and I know it.

[mt774]

Well what about the Iraq war i have heard even Americans saying that this is act of terror and minister Farrakhan thinks that Bush and Rumsfeld should face war crimes trial for such attrocity.

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Here in UK some people saying that Japan was already at defeat and therefore ready to surrender but Americans still nuke them anyway and that's why they say it terrorist act.

after the first bomb Japan refused to surrender and they got the second bomb get some correct information

[Guido]

What is your feelings when people label America as the biggest terrorists of all the world due to Hiroshima Nagasaki bombings and such?

I feel like watching Housewives of Atlanta, which is on teevee tonight.

[Archaix]

Well what about the Iraq war i have heard even Americans saying that this is act of terror and minister Farrakhan thinks that Bush and Rumsfeld should face war crimes trial for such attrocity.

And so they should. Apparently, the decision to invade Iraq was tabled as early as 9/11 itself by Rumsfeld:

Now, nearly one year later, there is still very little evidence Iraq was involved in the Sept. 11 attacks. But if these notes are accurate, that didn't matter to Rumsfeld.

"Go massive," the notes quote him as saying. "Sweep it all up. Things related and not."

And since the Iraq war we've learned that the threat of WMDs was fabricated, and none were found.

There's also an interesting article written by Tom Engelhardt about the War on Terror, Bush-era and Obama that you might want to read.

I've seen this shit before. They're leftists. Trust me... I've seen the same old crap argument from the left before. It's the same shit.

No, trust me because I actually live in the UK, so I know. Seeing the Americans as bible-bashing has nothing to do with politics. I know right-wingers who'd say America is bible-bashing, and even Christians.

Personally, I'm athiest and left-wing, but I'm also wary about generalisations and am good friends with a lot of irreligious people from the USA.

[Little-Acorn]

How do you feel when ppl call Americans the biggest terrorists ever?

I feel that I've run into yet another silly loon. And I walk on past and forget about him.

[DamnYankee]

Well what about the Iraq war i have heard even Americans saying that this is act of terror and minister Farrakhan thinks that Bush and Rumsfeld should face war crimes trial for such attrocity.

It's the left talking out their ass again.

[DamnYankee]

And so they should. Apparently, the decision to invade Iraq was tabled as early as 9/11 itself by Rumsfeld:



And since the Iraq war we've learned that the threat of WMDs was fabricated, and none were found.

There's also an interesting article written by Tom Engelhardt about the War on Terror, Bush-era and Obama that you might want to read.



No, trust me because I actually live in the UK, so I know. Seeing the Americans as bible-bashing has nothing to do with politics. I know right-wingers who'd say America is bible-bashing, and even Christians.

Personally, I'm athiest and left-wing, but I'm also wary about generalisations and am good friends with a lot of irreligious people from the USA.

Yada, yada, yada, we've heard this leftist bullshit before.

[Archaix]

Yada, yada, yada, we've heard this leftist bullshit before.

You should really learn to read things you disagree with, or at least be honest about it when you can't be bothered.

[DamnYankee]

You should really learn to read things you disagree with, or at least be honest about it when you can't be bothered.

Blow smoke up your fellow leftists ass, K? We're not interested.