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CGord 06-06-2001, 08:56 PM From ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/DailyNews/chuys010605.html)
Bust Theory Busted
Austin Tex-Mex Restaurateur Is No Enemy of Republicans
W A S H I N G T O N, June 5 — After a restaurant manager decided to call police on President Bush's twin daughters, resulting in underage drinking charges and a media frenzy, some in the White House smelled a rat.
At least one senior administration official intimated to reporters that Chuy's, the restaurant in Austin, Texas, where Jenna and Barbara Bush allegedly were trying to drink, "is owned and operated by liberals."
After all, the restaurant had called 911 and even some reporters to inform them of the situation.
But while the owner of Chuy's is certainly a partisan, he's no liberal.
Chuy's President Contributed to GOP Candidates
In fact, Michael Young, co-founder and president of Central Texas Chuy's Inc., has shared more than $11,000 with Republican Senate candidates since 1998.
Young, who has steadfastly refused to talk to the media about the Bush matter, describes himself as a "free-market capitalist."
"Anyone who knows me wouldn't say that I'm a liberal," Young said.
Perhaps the senior Republicans were thinking of John Zapp, another senior officer of Chuy's Inc. Federal Election Commission records show Zapp gave $1,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.
Zapp helped Young found Chuy's in 1982. The pair turned a broken-down Austin barbecue joint into a successful Tex-Mex chain with locations in Texas' largest cities.
Paul Brady, listed in state documents as vice president of Chuy's, has no contributions on file with the FEC.
Owner Apologizes
Young broke his silence about the incident today, acknowledging to the Austin American-Statesman that his staff could have taken a different approach in dealing with the Bush girls.
"Usually we wouldn't have handled this in the way it was handled," Young told the paper. "With that said, these are very unusual circumstances. A packed restaurant with high-profile celebrities there puts a lot of pressure on your management team."
The manager who called the police, Young said, would keep her job. But in an e-mail response sent to people complaining about the incident, Young and Zapp write: "We realize that many of you are upset with the recent occurrence at our Barton Springs location, and we want you to know that we are too."
Lol, $11,000 given to the GOP vs. $1,000 given to the Dems, D'OH!
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Turbostang 06-06-2001, 11:35 PM This is what I mean about being decisive in this nation.
Cry out when the president commits a felony on televison, and suddenly you are part of the vast right wing conspiracy. Bust a couple of kids for underage drinking, and you are a liberal. Go figure.
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Titan6400 06-06-2001, 11:43 PM Heh, kinda off topic but them getting the cops called on them is such crap. I mean I live in Austin and go to that Chuy's all the time, trust me they don't call the cops on every kid trying to buy alcohol. The manager way overreacted on that one...
Though the two girls were complete idiots themselves, it's not as though everyone didn't know just from recognizing who they are that they're underaged.
CodyChaos 06-07-2001, 01:23 AM Still they dont make laws so politicians and their relatives or anyone else for that matter can go flittering around them. Maybe that coke sniffer in the White House ought to rethink the Federal Governments position on enforcing the 21 law with fiscal bullying and let the states decide for themselves.
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PatTheAnarChrist 06-07-2001, 02:20 AM Yeah, the difference between them and other kids is that their father is forcing the american public to uphold impossible standards while his own children flaunt the laws. Take away their licenses!!!
-Patrick
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Powerboss 06-07-2001, 05:51 AM I think its safe to say minors trying to buy alchohol is a pretty common thing.
I think its also pretty safe to say that that establishment doesnt deal with minors trying to buy boozed by calling the cops every time.
911 at that! What was the emergency?
Aparently the manager had an axe to grind and most Americans see it for what it is and in the end the manager with the axe to grind looks like an even bigger *** than Jenna Bush.
What is striking is the amount of coverage this got vs Algores son speeding down the highway at 100 mph last fall.
Media bias indeed.
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Fordman50 06-07-2001, 06:43 AM I think that the White house should establish GOP safe-house bars and nip-joints all over Texas so that Jenna and Barbra can cary on their "family tradition" (Hank Jr anyone?) in peace and without fear of the truth getting out to the offil liberal media!
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Powerboss 06-07-2001, 07:09 AM wat dud yu sey?
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Turbostang 06-07-2001, 07:35 AM Maybe that coke sniffer in the White House ought to rethink the Federal Governments position on enforcing the 21 law with fiscal bullying and let the states decide for themselves.
I agree... but the coke sniffer (Clinton)left office in January, remember? http://discussanything.com/Ubb/smile.gif
The thing I wonder about... and maybe this is the part left out of the story, is that maybe the girls raised a stink before the manager called the cops. Most resaurants don't outright call the cops unless the customer is being unruley.
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CGord 06-07-2001, 09:54 AM From other stuff I've read, the place was packed, & I would expect most people in Austin to recognize the Shrubettes. Can you imagine the feeding frenzy if word got out that they had been allowed to drink?
Yeah, most GOP'ers are really going after the restraunt manager, to the point of posting her name address, social security number, credit history, etc, online for reporting them. As if the girls left them any other choice. A quote I read went along the lines of 'I'm not risking my liquor license for you'. I think it's funny the way the Family Values party seems to think that turning a blind eye towards underage drinking is somehow OK in this instance. The manager upheld the law regardless of the backlash, good for her.
Regarding calling 911 in a non-emergency, I'd have to do the same thing. It's the only police phone number I have memorized.
Agree with your last line there Curt.
Looking at how GWB signed into act ZERO tolerance underage drinking laws, I think they SHOULD be enforced 100%.
I have NO, and I repeat NO remosrse/symapathy for people that get caught. It is stupid (it being the drinking laws) and the penalties are harsh, but you know what you're getting into before hand.
And on another note, this is her SECOND offense within a few months, and it in addition to TRYING to purchase alcohol, she either had a fake ID or was misrepresenting herself as someone else. Both of those are SERIOUS crimes.
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Powerboss 06-07-2001, 03:19 PM Guys, where you seem to be missing it, is where this manager, exceeded standard operating policy and instead of just refusing, like they normally do, she called the cops, 911 at that.
Thats the issue.
How many kids in all college towns get 911 called on them instead of being just refused?
2.
It obviously was partisan democrat who would go to any lengths to embarrass the family.
The family values thing...What are you talking about? What they did was wrong, but they shouldnt be publicly humiliated because they are republicans and thats whats happening.
Again, where was the press when ALgores boy was speeding at 100 mph last fall?
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Man — every man — is an end in himself, not the means to the ends of others. He must exist for his own sake, neither sacrificing himself to others nor sacrificing others to himself. The pursuit of his own rational self-interest and of his own happiness is the highest moral purpose of his life.
Ayn Rand
Can we say deflection anyone?
What abotu when a conversation between two friends was recorded and then leaked? Aren't there legal and/or moral/ethical implications.
Yes, Al Gores sun should have gotten coverage. No it dind't not get much at all.
I do not see how they are being humiliated. And Bill, 911 may have been extreme, but calling the police isnt' extreme at all. They are SUPPOSED to do that. Or now are we letting store owners interpret laws? It doen'st happen all of the time, but it does happen, and frankly she should know better.
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CGord 06-07-2001, 05:08 PM From the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Code (http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/al/al010600.html#al003.106.025):
CHAPTER 106. PROVISIONS RELATING TO AGE
§ 106.01. Definition
In this code, "minor" means a person under 21 years of age.
§ 106.02. Purchase of Alcohol by a Minor
(a) A minor commits an offense if the minor purchases an alcoholic beverage. A minor does not commit an offense if the minor purchases an alcoholic beverage under the immediate supervision of a commissioned peace officer engaged in enforcing the provisions of this code.
(b) An offense under this section is punishable as provided by Section 106.071.
Acts 1977, 65th Leg., p. 513, ch. 194, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1977. Amended by Acts 1991, 72nd Leg., ch. 163, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1991; Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 934, § 75, eff. Sept. 1, 1993.
Amended by Acts 1997, 75th Leg., ch. 1013, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1997; Acts 1997, 75th Leg., ch. 1139, § 1, eff. June 19, 1997.
§ 106.025. Attempt to Purchase Alcohol by a Minor
(a) A minor commits an offense if, with specific intent to commit an offense under Section 106.02 of this code, the minor does an act amounting to more than mere preparation that tends but fails to effect the commission of the offense intended.
(b) An offense under this section is punishable as provided by Section 106.071.
Added by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 934, § 76, eff. Sept. 1, 1993.
Amended by Acts 1997, 75th Leg., ch. 1013, § 2, eff. Sept. 1, 1997.
§ 106.03. Sale to Minors
(a) A person commits an offense if with criminal negligence he sells an alcoholic beverage to a minor.
(b) A person who sells a minor an alcoholic beverage does not commit an offense if the minor falsely represents himself to be 21 years old or older by displaying an apparently valid Texas driver's license or an identification card issued by the Texas Department of Public Safety, containing a physical description consistent with his appearance for the purpose of inducing the person to sell him an alcoholic beverage.
(c) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.
Acts 1977, 65th Leg., p. 513, ch. 194, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1977. Amended by Acts 1981, 67th Leg., p. 257, ch. 107, § 9, eff. Sept. 1, 1981; Acts 1983, 68th Leg., p. 2649, ch. 456, § 4, eff. Sept. 1, 1983; Acts 1985, 69th Leg., ch. 285, § 9, eff. Sept. 1, 1986; Acts 1985, 69th Leg., ch. 462, § 10, eff. Sept. 1, 1986; Acts 1987, 70th Leg., ch. 582, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1988.
Amended by Acts 1997, 75th Leg., ch. 1013, § 3, eff. Sept. 1, 1997.
§ 106.04. Consumption of Alcohol by a Minor
(a) A minor commits an offense if he consumes an alcoholic beverage.
(b) It is an affirmative defense to prosecution under this section that the alcoholic beverage was consumed in the visible presence of the minor's adult parent, guardian, or spouse.
(c) An offense under this section is punishable as provided by Section 106.071.
(d) A minor who commits an offense under this section and who has been previously convicted twice or more of offenses under this section is not eligible for deferred disposition. For the purposes of this subsection:
(1) an adjudication under Title 3, Family Code, that the minor engaged in conduct described by this section is considered a conviction of an offense under this section; and
(2) an order of deferred disposition for an offense alleged under this section is considered a conviction of an offense under this section.
Acts 1977, 65th Leg., p. 514, ch. 194, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1977. Amended by Acts 1991, 72nd Leg., ch. 163, § 2, eff. Sept. 1, 1991; Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 934, § 77, eff. Sept. 1, 1993.
Amended by Acts 1997, 75th Leg., ch. 1013, § 4, eff. Sept. 1, 1997; Acts 1999, 76th Leg., ch. 1207, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1999.
This isn't about sex (oops, I mean Bush's family matters), it's about breaking the law. http://discussanything.com/Ubb/biggrin.gif
Powerboss 06-07-2001, 06:05 PM So you advocate every underage person should be nailed in the same manner?
The law isnt being enforced equally here, we all know that.
Hey, she got busted, which definetly shows her immaturity...but plastering it all over the news? Come on...At least be consistent.
You were outraged when it was in your opinion "just about sex", why are you not outraged when its "just about tequila"?
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Man — every man — is an end in himself, not the means to the ends of others. He must exist for his own sake, neither sacrificing himself to others nor sacrificing others to himself. The pursuit of his own rational self-interest and of his own happiness is the highest moral purpose of his life.
Ayn Rand
Fordman50 06-08-2001, 07:23 AM Originally posted by Powerboss:
So you advocate every underage person should be nailed in the same manner?
The law isnt being enforced equally here, we all know that.
Hey, she got busted, which definetly shows her immaturity...but plastering it all over the news? Come on...At least be consistent.
You were outraged when it was in your opinion "just about sex", why are you not outraged when its "just about tequila"?
YES!!!! I want MY daughters halled off if they get busted drinking under age and would hope that the bar owners have the respect for me the parent, to do so! Some scum bags will gladly get your kids loaded and tke their money.
Hey, it even happened to me too BFD. In VA I was leagal to drink at 18. When I moved to CA at 20, I got arrested for just holding a bag of groceries the contained ONE UNOPENED 12 OZ can of beer! I had to go to court and get a criminal record over it. BUT THAT IS the law and I wasnt stupid enough to get busted again either.
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