http://www.townhall.com/columnists/BrentBozellIII/2006/09/08/nbc_slices_and_dices_veggie_tales

NBC has the right to broadcast what they want. The First Amendment protects their right to refuse to broadcast what they don't want. The government has no right to step in a force them one way or the other.

BOO NBC. Of all the moronic things they could do, this is really stupid. They've agreed to broadcast a childrens' cartoon show, "Veggie Tales", all well and good. The problem is they want to strip the core right out of the show.

The early word from producers is that NBC has grown increasingly fierce about editing something out of "Veggie Tales" -- those apparently unacceptable, insensitive references to God and the Bible.


This is one of those moments where you understand that networks like NBC are only talking an empty talk and walking an empty walk when it comes to the First Amendment, and "creative integrity," and so on. They have told parents concerned about their smutty programs like "Will and Grace" that if they're offended, they have a remote control as an option. The networks have spent millions insisting that we have a V-chip in our TV sets. Change the channel. Block it out.

But when it comes to religious programming -- programming that doesn't even mention Jesus Christ -- just watch the hypocrisy. Instead of telling viewers to just change the channel if they don't like it, or put in a V-chip for Bible verses, they demand to producers that all that outdated old-time religion has to be shredded before broadcast.


NBC has the right to broadcast or refuse to broadcast whatever they want, but they should not be surprised if large numbers of people exercise their right to refuse to watch NBC.

Correct me if I'm wrong but i thought the point to Veggie Tales was to be a Christian outreach to children...

Correct me if I'm wrong but i thought the point to Veggie Tales was to be a Christian outreach to children...

You are not wrong. There have been 50 million plus "Veggie Tales" videos sold, and NBC saw dollar signs. Unfortunately, even dollar signs can't outweigh their desire to not promote Christianity.

There would be what like 5 minutes of the show left?

NBC has the right to broadcast or refuse to broadcast whatever they want, but they should not be surprised if large numbers of people exercise their right to refuse to watch NBC.

If the numbers were large enough, then they would just broadcast it. All they want i$ profit. :shrug:

You are not wrong. There have been 50 million plus "Veggie Tales" videos sold, and NBC saw dollar signs. Unfortunately, even dollar signs can't outweigh their desire to not promote Christianity.

Of course people will scoff but the Lord blessed the effort because of the intent behind it-this is disgusting:nonono:

I'm surprised the owners of the Veggie Tales franchise agreed to have the shows masacred in such a manner.

Tv needs a show like that, to many reality shows will kill ya :)

Will and Grace is smutty? lol homophobes?

Will and Grace is smutty? lol homophobes?

It is smutty. So is "Two and a half men". It has nothing to do with homosexuality and everything to do with inappropriate sexuality.

Those TV shows are nowhere near as "smutty" as real life. But I have no problem with parents having their children grow up in a protective bubble.

Those TV shows are nowhere near as "smutty" as real life. But I have no problem with parents having their children grow up in a protective bubble.

Whose real life? How many people do you know that are as promiscuous as Charlie on "Two and a half men" or Jack on "Will and Grace"?

Whose real life? How many people do you know that are as promiscuous as Charlie on "Two and a half men" or Jack on "Will and Grace"?

OMG...it's a sitcom fercryinoutloud. It's make-believe! And it's aimed at adults. Do you get this wound up about action films? Video games? Do you limit your televised entertainment to Leave It To Beaver and The Donna Reed Show?

And FWIW, the Bible is rife with gore, violence and intolerance. Why is it okay that children be exposed to that?

OMG...it's a sitcom fercryinoutloud. It's make-believe! And it's aimed at adults. Do you get this wound up about action films? Video games? Do you limit your televised entertainment to Leave It To Beaver and The Donna Reed Show?

And FWIW, the Bible is rife with gore, violence and intolerance. Why is it okay that children be exposed to that?

Because in the Bible, it's not glorified or made enjoyable, or funny. How much of it have you read? BTW, there's a lot of sex in the Bible too. The difference, as I explained, is in how it's presented.

OMG...it's a sitcom fercryinoutloud. It's make-believe! And it's aimed at adults. Do you get this wound up about action films? Video games? Do you limit your televised entertainment to Leave It To Beaver and The Donna Reed Show?

And FWIW, the Bible is rife with gore, violence and intolerance. Why is it okay that children be exposed to that?



This is to protect the many from the few ! Sometimes you have to be cruel or firm to be kind . The pagans were sacrifing their young and invading the peaceful . Only defenseive war could save them from the pagans and certain death from their evil lifestyles of sacrifice and desease . Eeverytime the pagans were welcomed into the nations they pervrted them shortly afterwards . Just like today . Tolerence is not always a good thing .

Because in the Bible, it's not glorified or made enjoyable, or funny. How much of it have you read? BTW, there's a lot of sex in the Bible too. The difference, as I explained, is in how it's presented.



Basically I do ! I have no desire to be de-senseitzed . I seldom watch movies or tv .

I still thing that man is above animals and should act like it . All the dogs in heat on tv and movies don't appeal to me . Perversion has always been around, but never in world history as it lasted long because it killed itself off before long . but this generation has managed to infect the whole world, so only a supernatural power will save us now .

Because in the Bible, it's not glorified or made enjoyable, or funny.

It's highly debateable whether or not violence is glorified in the bible. In actual fact, one acting "in the name of god" can be seen to be the ultimate glorification. As for something being humorous...so what? Perhaps a problem with the religious zealots of all stripes everywhere is a profound lack of a sense of humour. The Mohammed cartoons are but one example...

BTW, there's a lot of sex in the Bible too. The difference, as I explained, is in how it's presented.

The fact that it is not presented in any realistic way in the bible is probably more damaging than the way it's portrayed on even satires and/or parodies like those seen on situation comedies. Being "fruitful" and "multiplying" hardly conveys the true nature of human sexuality. Your bible is doing real-world people no favors when it comes to real-world sexuality issues.

Why do you "boo" NBC? Why can't religious indoctrination be done by the parents and/or their church/synagogue/mosque?

It's highly debateable whether or not violence is glorified in the bible. In actual fact, one acting "in the name of god" can be seen to be the ultimate glorification. As for something being humorous...so what? Perhaps a problem with the religious zealots of all stripes everywhere is a profound lack of a sense of humour. The Mohammed cartoons are but one example...


We laugh all the time. In fact, most of what I read on DA makes me laugh. We'd laugh at the stupidity of the world more were it not for the seriousness of where it's headed.


The fact that it is not presented in any realistic way in the bible is probably more damaging than the way it's portrayed on even satires and/or parodies like those seen on situation comedies. Being "fruitful" and "multiplying" hardly conveys the true nature of human sexuality. Your bible is doing real-world people no favors when it comes to real-world sexuality issues.


Ever read the Song of Solomon?


Why do you "boo" NBC? Why can't religious indoctrination be done by the parents and/or their church/synagogue/mosque?

I boo NBC because they are attempting to strip the heart out of the videos. The videos explicitely tell Bible stories. Take God out of them, and you have little left. Would you not criticize a Christian company that wanted to broadcast "South Park", but insisted on stripping out all the foul language?

I just think it's sad that programing w/out explicit themes don't even get a chance. "They" say the public doesn't want such shows but really they don't have a choice. Remember Joan of Arcadia?? I LOVED that show!!

And the worst thing in 2 and a half men is that bad ass lil brat- talk about needing a spanking!!!

Ever read the Song of Solomon?

Nope.

Are you telling me those Jews were randy little bronze age sheepherders? :eek3:

I boo NBC because they are attempting to strip the heart out of the videos. The videos explicitely tell Bible stories. Take God out of them, and you have little left. Would you not criticize a Christian company that wanted to broadcast "South Park", but insisted on stripping out all the foul language?

Nope. I might think they were idiotic for attempting to show something that's not exactly up their alley -- just as Christian evangelism isn't the forte of cheap animation and commercial television -- but I wouldn't run to the keyboard to tap out an admonishing thread about it. I'd be tempted to post a nugget it in a humour-forum as banal hilarity but wouldn't think to seriously try to use it as an example of society heading to hell in a handbasket.

Are you telling me those Jews were randy little bronze age sheepherders? :eek3:

People from everywhere are a little taken with sex.It's a beautiful almost erotic poem with deep spiritual meaning. The Bible has a lot of strange and lovely things you wouldnt think were there..

Nope. I might think they were idiotic for attempting to show something that's not exactly up their alley -- just as Christian evangelism isn't the forte of cheap animation and commercial television -- but I wouldn't run to the keyboard to tap out an admonishing thread about it. I'd be tempted to post a nugget it in a humour-forum as banal hilarity but wouldn't think to seriously try to use it as an example of society heading to hell in a handbasket.

I either strongly agree with Hadit or strongly disagree with him-but i dont see him ever really taking that tack though-Me or Pappy-you'd have a case...