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'Peace mom' becomes Bush's neighbor

Cindy Sheehan uses insurance money from son's death


CRAWFORD, Texas (AP) -- War protesters will have a new and bigger gathering place when they return in August to President Bush's adopted hometown: a 5-acre lot bought with insurance money Cindy Sheehan received after her son was killed in Iraq.

Gerry Fonseca, a fellow war protester who acted as Sheehan's agent, said he recently bought the vacant lot about a mile from downtown Crawford -- and about 7 miles from Bush's ranch -- for $52,500. About half the land is pasture, and the other half is woods, he said.

"If Cindy Sheehan came to town, I don't think anybody would have sold her any property," Fonseca, of Eagle Rock, Missouri, said Thursday.


Hahaha.

Ah. Ha. haha.

"We decided to buy property in Crawford to use until George's resignation or impeachment, which we all hope is soon for the sake of the world."

Media whore or not, I gotta love her tenacity.

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Hahaha.

Ah. Ha. haha.

"We decided to buy property in Crawford to use until George's resignation or impeachment, which we all hope is soon for the sake of the world."

Media whore or not, I gotta love her tenacity.

Well, I guess that's an ok way to spend the insurance money from her son's death. It was that or purchase, and place a marker at his gravesite, and this way get's her way more attention. :nice:

Well, I guess that's an ok way to spend the insurance money from her son's death.


It is. Not only can she use it to, however effectively, try to stop other kids from dying the same way for the same people, but she can sell it later, after it appreciates, and use the money for yet another good cause.

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It was that or purchase, and place a marker at his gravesite, and this way get's her way more attention. :nice:

He has one. She bought it. It reads:

"Our Casey, Ever faithful, kind, and gentle, good son, beloved brother, brave soldier, dear friend, you loved your family and lived your life serving others to the end."

He has one. She bought it. It reads:

"Our Casey, Ever faithful, kind, and gentle, good son, beloved brother, brave soldier, dear friend, you loved your family and lived your life serving others to the end."

Wow....after the story about how she never took care of that, she ponied up some cash? Lol. :nice:

She is a stupid ****. End of story.

She is a stupid ****. End of story.
As she is still in the news, it is obviously not the "end of story".
I'm personally happy to see anybody who's a pain in the ass to someone in a position of power.
Remember how, in Roman times, the emperors always had somebody whispering in their ear as they rode through parades and such saying, "You too are mortal and shall die"? Supposedly this was done to keep their egos from becoming too inflated.
Sheehan is at least trying to bring that back in spirit I guess.

As she is still in the news, it is obviously not the "end of story".
I'm personally happy to see anybody who's a pain in the ass to someone in a position of power.
Remember how, in Roman times, the emperors always had somebody whispering in their ear as they rode through parades and such saying, "You too are mortal and shall die"? Supposedly this was done to keep their egos from becoming too inflated.
Sheehan is at least trying to bring that back in spirit I guess.

She's a stupid ****. End of story.

I find her to be completely shameful. If she had any brain cells, she would realize how her stupid antics do more to harm the anti-war movement/argument than to help it. I have watched video of her and I have the same reaction as when I watch Bush; I literally come close to gagging from the overwhelming stupidity. She sounds high. She's a ****ing ****.

I have no sympathy for people with whom I agree who display no tact. She doesn't, and it only serves to cost more lives by serving as ammunition for the war hawks to use.

One third of the country is strongly anti-war. One third is inconvincably 100% behind Bush and any war he wants to drag this country into. It's the final one-third that controls the directions and decisions of our country. A **** like this turns them off from whatever position she takes with lightning speed. She has no tact, and it's dangerous, and the world would be better off if she had her mouth stapled shut.

She's a mother who lost a son. I can not fathom her loss, and I do not agree that her choice of crusade has a detrimental effect on the process of discourse.

She's a mother who lost a son. I can not fathom her loss, and I do not agree that her choice of crusade has a detrimental effect on the process of discourse.

Then with all due respect, I simply don't think you've paid too close attention to the discourse. She is very much a detriment to the anti-war cause. There are two-thirds of this country that are stuck on their sides, come hell or high water. There is one-third of this country that takes convincing to join either camp and by default controls the country's destiny, and that convincing takes tact. Cindy Sheehan is completely devoid of it.

I bet that's exactly what her son would have wanted her to do with the money :rolleyes:

i'm surprised anyone sold her land. wonder if the seller's been run out of town yet.

tlg is on the money here. what a stupid bitch.

It was purchased through a proxy.

I hope that eventually she will get everything that is due her....like a fork in the eye.

She's a stupid ****. End of story.

I find her to be completely shameful. If she had any brain cells, she would realize how her stupid antics do more to harm the anti-war movement/argument than to help it. I have watched video of her and I have the same reaction as when I watch Bush; I literally come close to gagging from the overwhelming stupidity. She sounds high. She's a ****ing ****.

I have no sympathy for people with whom I agree who display no tact. She doesn't, and it only serves to cost more lives by serving as ammunition for the war hawks to use.

One third of the country is strongly anti-war. One third is inconvincably 100% behind Bush and any war he wants to drag this country into. It's the final one-third that controls the directions and decisions of our country. A **** like this turns them off from whatever position she takes with lightning speed. She has no tact, and it's dangerous, and the world would be better off if she had her mouth stapled shut.


Nobody else is doing anything to stop the warmongers, maybe you just have an issue where you hate everyone who doesn't do things exactly as you wish them to.

Nobody else is doing anything to stop the warmongers,

Wrong.

maybe you just have an issue where you hate everyone who doesn't do things exactly as you wish them to.

And wrong.

Wrong.


Like who?



And wrong.


You don't like what she does because you just don't, if I had a child killed by George Bush I'd never let up until he was sitting behind bars either. It's easy to judge people when you don't know what they are experiencing, losing a child is said to be the worst thing a human can endure. She's not an actor like Shwarzeneggar or Reagan, so maybe she doesn't have the the ability to fake it and look 100% at all times, she's a real person who suffered a tragedy who is doing what all good people should do. If everybody had half the guts this lady has we wouldn't have to worry about where the neo-cons will attack next.

Like who?

I don't know what you expect from others to put an end to the war--nor do I know of whom you expect it--so I can't reference someone specifically in that respect. If Sheehan's stunts, though, are examples of effectiveness in "stopping the war" that you like to hold up as good examples, then we won't find common ground. To end the war will take changing people's hearts and minds in our democracy, because it is the people who push their leaders to take action. Talk to anyone outside LIKEOMGDAILYKOSRULZOMGBUSHISTEHEVULONEOMG!!! circles, and you'll see that Sheehan turns off more people than she could ever hope to convince. We may not like it, but it's a fact of life that style counts. Rove has it in spades. Sheehan is completely devoid. Checkmate.

You don't like what she does because you just don't, if I had a child killed by George Bush I'd never let up until he was sitting behind bars either. It's easy to judge people when you don't know what they are experiencing, losing a child is said to be the worst thing a human can endure. She's not an actor like Shwarzeneggar or Reagan, so maybe she doesn't have the the ability to fake it and look 100% at all times, she's a real person who suffered a tragedy who is doing what all good people should do. If everybody had half the guts this lady has we wouldn't have to worry about where the neo-cons will attack next.

The bolded part is hilarious because you are the one who heaped an assumptive judgment on me ("maybe you just have an issue where you hate everyone who doesn't do things exactly as you wish them to", "You don't like what she does because you just don't"). I never once questioned Cindy Sheehan's pain or her sincerity in seeing an end to the war. I questioned the irresponsibility of her tactics, because I see them as a detriment to the anti-war movement, and that is completely shameful, as I am an avid supporter of the anti-war movement. Bush and Co. SHOULD be hung in the town square for what they did to Americans, Iraqis, and all parts of the world affected by their selfish war of choice.

As for your comment about people needing more guts...guts isn't what Americans are missing. They're a bunch of headstrong, bullheaded idiots. It's not guts that they need; it's brains. Cindy Sheehan is NOT a shining example of brain power.

The last poll I saw was from a year ago, but the majority then supported what Sheehan was doing. Of course, people get tired of a fad pretty quickly.

She must have been effective, though, because the dittoheads hate her almost as much as they hate the Clintons, the New York Times, CNN and war protesters.

No one wants her there. She and her group lied to get the land. She backs the terrorists that killed her son. Cindy GO HOME! :mad:

No one wants her there. She and her group lied to get the land. She backs the terrorists that killed her son. Cindy GO HOME! :mad:

She isn't going anywhere :)

And no, she doesn't back any terrorists.

Although I don't exactly agree with her decision, it's a free country & she can buy property as she sees fit. As long as she's not hurting anyone or committing illegal acts, why not??? :shrug:

I'd also like to add that Cindy Sheehan isn't harming the "anti-war" movement at all. That's a false facade put forth by the warmongers, and it caught on because she appears to be a few fries short of a happy meal, which is understandable. But no matter how greedy, how emotional, how negative she is made to appear, no amount of publicity from a grief-ridden mother will ever change any anti-war supporters mind about this bloody war based on lies, no matter how much the neocons would like us to believe.

Hate her all you want. Call her a greedy bitch. Call her a fraud. Spew your hate and vitriol until you're all blue in the face if it makes you feel like a patriot. The fact remains, our gov't is run by criminals who have lied about this war, lied about everything under the sun, and we've lost thousands of soldiers and innocent civilians because of this group of war criminals. Direct your hate towards the people who deserve it, not an innocent mother who lost her son in an unecessary war. I understand how she's an easy target, and I do realize how easy targets are irresistable to you warmongers...but at least give it a try. You never know, you may discover a new found respect for human life.

I can truly say that I am ashamed reading some of these posts. Ashamed, and those of you who this is directed at should be too. This woman lost her son (meaning of course that her son was KILLED FIGHTING FOR THIS COUNTRY) in a war that was sold as one that had to be fought for our self-preservation. Clearly that was not the case. Has your child been killed like this? Have you felt the loss of an war, unjust or not.
Shame on you!

I can truly say that I am ashamed reading some of these posts. Ashamed, and those of you who this is directed at should be too. This woman lost her son (meaning of course that her son was KILLED FIGHTING FOR THIS COUNTRY) in a war that was sold as one that had to be fought for our self-preservation. Clearly that was not the case. Has your child been killed like this? Have you felt the loss of an war, unjust or not.
Shame on you!


I posted something similar a while back. Unless we have lost a child, none of us can sit here & say we truly know how she feels, or how we'd react if the same situation. Oh sure, we can speculate "Oh if it were me, I wouldn't do this or that..." :blahblah: But we don't REALLY know until we've been there.

I'd also like to add that Cindy Sheehan isn't harming the "anti-war" movement at all. That's a false facade put forth by the warmongers, and it caught on because she appears to be a few fries short of a happy meal, which is understandable. But no matter how greedy, how emotional, how negative she is made to appear, no amount of publicity from a grief-ridden mother will ever change any anti-war supporters mind about this bloody war based on lies, no matter how much the neocons would like us to believe.

It's not her effect on anti-war types that makes her a detriment to efforts at peace. It's her effect on fence-sitters. She is a total turnoff. To your average Joe American who pays only slight attention to current events, she's a lightning rod of what they DON'T want to associate themselves with.

The anti-war movement needs John Murtha and Wesley Clark types at its forefront. Not crazy ****s like this bitch.

Hate her all you want.

I don't hate her.

Call her a greedy bitch.

I don't profess to know whether she's inspired by greed.

Call her a fraud.

Never did.

Spew your hate and vitriol until you're all blue in the face if it makes you feel like a patriot.

Negative.

The fact remains, our gov't is run by criminals who have lied about this war, lied about everything under the sun, and we've lost thousands of soldiers and innocent civilians because of this group of war criminals.

Indeed.

Direct your hate towards the people who deserve it, not an innocent mother who lost her son in an unecessary war.

I have plenty of hate for the bastards who did this to our country, to these soldiers and their families. I don't hate Cindy Sheehan. Doesn't mean she's not a stupid bitch.

I understand how she's an easy target, and I do realize how easy targets are irresistable to you warmongers...but at least give it a try. You never know, you may discover a new found respect for human life.

Eh, I'm no warmonger. But she's still an easy target. 'Cause she's a stupid bitch.

It's the John Murtha and Wesley Clark types who can sway this country to an anti-war mood. Not Cindy Sheehan.

I can truly say that I am ashamed reading some of these posts. Ashamed, and those of you who this is directed at should be too. This woman lost her son (meaning of course that her son was KILLED FIGHTING FOR THIS COUNTRY) in a war that was sold as one that had to be fought for our self-preservation. Clearly that was not the case. Has your child been killed like this? Have you felt the loss of an war, unjust or not.
Shame on you!

I posted something similar a while back. Unless we have lost a child, none of us can sit here & say we truly know how she feels, or how we'd react if the same situation. Oh sure, we can speculate "Oh if it were me, I wouldn't do this or that..." :blahblah: But we don't REALLY know until we've been there.

There are plenty of people who did lose children in this war who would voice much more hate for Cindy Sheehan than I ever would.

And I would make the same arguments against her whether she was who she is or whether she was some random lady who decided to engage in her antics. That she lost her son formed no basis for my criticisms.

Everyone copes with grief in different ways. Perhaps in her mind, she thinks she's honoring her son. Some people don't view it as such, but we truly don't know what her mindset is right now.

I'm not saying I agree with everything she's done. I'm just saying that we can't know how her coping skills are, what's in her thoughts, what her son may have told her before he died, etc. And I just can't see where people crucifying her (not singling anyone out specifically) is going to help her cope with her loss at all.

It's not her effect on anti-war types that makes her a detriment to efforts at peace. It's her effect on fence-sitters. She is a total turnoff. To your average Joe American who pays only slight attention to current events, she's a lightning rod of what they DON'T want to associate themselves with.

Well, that may be true. But at this late stage, anyone who is still a fence sitter doesn't deserve an ounce of respect for their opinons. Screw em. It isn't anyone elses fault that they are either too stupid or too lazy to devote some time to formulating a position on this war. They can all kiss my ass, because they don't think the right thing, as far as I'm concerned.

The anti-war movement needs John Murtha and Wesley Clark types at its forefront. Not crazy ****s like this bitch.

I guess I never really thought of her being at the forefront.

I have plenty of hate for the bastards who did this to our country, to these soldiers and their families. I don't hate Cindy Sheehan. Doesn't mean she's not a stupid bitch.

Eh, I'm no warmonger. But she's still an easy target. 'Cause she's a stupid bitch.

I know you're not a warmonger. My comments weren't really directed to you.

It's the John Murtha and Wesley Clark types who can sway this country to an anti-war mood. Not Cindy Sheehan.

Just thinking about the fact that this country needs to be "swayed" to an anti-war mood pisses me off, and again, anyone who needs to be pursuaded to be anti-war, or anti-Iraq war, isn't worth a shit.

She isn't going anywhere :)


Except into obscurity.


And no, she doesn't back any terrorists.

My bad, she just calls them freedom fighters and doesn't blame them for killing her son, she blames Bush. If shes not a terrorist supporter shes a wack job.

grief only excuses one so much. there is such a thing as personal accountability. if she were my mother i'd be horribly ashamed of her. but hey, of coure i don't know for sure, because i'm not dead.

Sheehan is going out in the world and doing something based on her beliefs and her convictions, which is more than I can say for her dectractors that post here.

Sheehan is going out in the world and doing something based on her beliefs and her convictions, which is more than I can say for her dectractors that post here.
wtf is it today with all the assanine, ignorant, broad sweeping generalizations? has debate here really sunken to this level? i mean jesus h ****ing christ people, have we really become that devoid of thought around here? you don't know me or anyone else on this board personally (well, there may be some exception to that), so why venture to comment on what someone you don't know has or has not done with their life?

Marry me.

Marry me.
k. ;)

Nobody else is doing anything to stop the warmongers, maybe you just have an issue where you hate everyone who doesn't do things exactly as you wish them to.

How exactly is Sheehan living in Texas going to stop anything? She needs media attention to accomplish whatever it is she thinks she's going to accomplish, and she won't get it without monumentally stupid actions, even with a sympathetic media (seen any profiles on pro-war mothers?). I mean, what's she going to do, walk around her property carrying signs? Is her site even visible from Bush's place?

even with a sympathetic media (seen any profiles on pro-war mothers?)

Yes.
.

Is her site even visible from Bush's place?no. its seven miles away.

Yes.
.

You'd think I'd have seen more of them (considering I read conservative stuff and all).

You'd think I'd have seen more of them (considering I read conservative stuff and all).

One that I recall was on CNN. :shrug:

no. its seven miles away.

That's no better than being 700 miles away.

That's no better than being 700 miles away.sure it is. it got her name back in the news. :)

wtf is it today with all the assanine, ignorant, broad sweeping generalizations? has debate here really sunken to this level? i mean jesus h ****ing christ people, have we really become that devoid of thought around here? you don't know me or anyone else on this board personally (well, there may be some exception to that), so why venture to comment on what someone you don't know has or has not done with their life?
I'm sure the people who post in this thread calling Sheehan a "stupid bitch" are spending their free time trying to change the world based on their own unique vision. Just like the rest of us that sit around on the internet all day posting on message boards.

I'm sure the people who post in this thread calling Sheehan a "stupid bitch" are spending their free time trying to change the world based on their own unique vision. Just like the rest of us that sit around on the internet all day posting on message boards.speak for yourself. to do otherwise is extremely presumptious(sp?) to say the least.

I spend all day posting on message boards and making out with my future husband jwreck. :hmm:

I can still talk shit. You don't need to have a Nobel Prize to have opinions.

So why exactly is she a stupid bitch?

She lies, she talks about Hugo Chavez like he's the second coming, she always sounds stoned, she has no tact and hurts the anti-war effort more than she helps it.

Plus she's ugly as sin.

I spend all day posting on message boards and making out with my future husband jwreck. :hmm:

I can still talk shit. You don't need to have a Nobel Prize to have opinions.:blush:

You don't like what she does because you just don't, if I had a child killed by George Bush I'd never let up until he was sitting behind bars either.
Don't you find it kind of odd that she willingly associates herself with members of the organization that did the actual killing of her son, though?

On 10 December 2005 more than 1,000 delegates will gather at the Royal Horticultural Hall in Central London. They will be there to discuss the campaign to bring the troops home and the way forward for peace internationally. Delegates will be coming from all over the world and they will hear from leading peace activists from Iraq, USA and Britain.
Prominent among the speakers will be:

Cindy Sheehan, Gold Star Families for Peace
Hasan Zergani Hashim - Spokesperson Muqtada Al Sadr
Rose Gentle, Military Families Against the War
Aytollah Jawad Al Khalissi - General Secretary Iraqi National Foundation Congress
Reg Keys, Military Familes Against the War
Kelly Dougherty, founder of Iraq Veterans against the War
Medea Benjamin, Code Pink
Ann Wright, former US diplomat who resigned on eve of war
Phyllis Bennis, Institute of Policy Studies
Tony Benn
George Galloway MP
http://www.commondreams.org/news2005/1130-17.htm
A "peace activist" who is a spokesman for Muqtada Al Sadr?