Rep. John Murtha is thinking big thoughts. Since coming out for an immediate withdrawal from Iraq last year, he has accused Marines of murder "in cold blood" before a preliminary investigation is even complete; accused the military of a cover up over the same incident; declared his candidacy for the House majority leadership post; and, most recently, refined his cut-and-run strategy in Iraq to mean "redeployment" to Okinawa, Japan.
That's quite a splash for such a veteran congressman, who a year ago had zero name recognition outside Washington. That he's made a name for himself now by slandering our troops and their mission deserves a brief recital of some other activities associated with Mr. Murtha.
Last June, the Los Angeles Times reported how the ranking member on the defense appropriations subcommittee has a brother, Robert Murtha, whose lobbying firm represents 10 companies that received more than $20 million from last year's defense spending bill. "Clients of the lobbying firm KSA Consulting -- whose top officials also include former congressional aide Carmen V. Scialabba, who worked for Rep. Murtha as a congressional aide for 27 years -- received a total of $20.8 million from the bill," the L.A. Times reported.
In early 2004, according to Roll Call, Mr. Murtha "reportedly leaned on U.S. Navy officials to sign a contract to transfer the Hunters Point Shipyard to the city of San Francisco." Laurence Pelosi, nephew of House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, at the time was an executive of the company which owned the rights to the land. The same article also reported how Mr. Murtha has been behind millions of dollars worth of earmarks in defense appropriations bills that went to companies owned by the children of fellow Pennsylvania Democrat, Rep. Paul Kanjorski. Meanwhile, the Center for Responsive Politics, a nonpartisan campaign-finance watchdog group, lists Mr. Murtha as the top recipient of defense industry dollars in the current 2006 election cycle.
http://washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20060620-083859-8753r.htm
i realize this is an op-ed, but the accusations are referenced. why is this the first we've heard about this? where is that supposed viscious republican attack machine we keep hearing about? is there any truth to this?

Jack Murtha was also involved in ABSCAM,

AND, the "culture of corruption" has a long memory:

Like the house banking scandal, and remember old Dan Rostenkowski?

Oh, by the way, the Pelosis exploit illegal aliens at their 5-star resort hotel in the Upper Napa Valley.

$20 million is kind of puny to be trying to play the Criminal Mastermind smear on. Haliburton is lifting that from the Treasury 2-3 times over nearly every day. This is as hilarious as that hokey sniveling Whine Fest about Hillary's pissant $100K commodities deal, and Martha Stewart's 'Horrible Crime' .. you Republicans are true circus freaks ...

$20 million is kind of puny to be trying to play the Criminal Mastermind smear on. Haliburton is lifting that from the Treasury 2-3 times over nearly every day. This is as hilarious as that hokey sniveling Whine Fest about Hillary's pissant $100K commodities deal, and Martha Stewart's 'Horrible Crime' .. you Republicans are true circus freaks ...

So if you're a democrat, you're immune from scandal as long as you keep the amount of money involved less than.....what is the limit before you get in trouble, anyway?

Ask the Democrats. the Republicans are a far bigger problem regarding corruption and thievery than some specious 'Swift Boat' style claims in a partisan article whining about Murtha. It's like cops focusing on a litterbug while a Baptist machine guns a schoolyard full of kids 10 feet away.

$20 million is kind of puny to be trying to play the Criminal Mastermind smear on. Haliburton is lifting that from the Treasury 2-3 times over nearly every day. This is as hilarious as that hokey sniveling Whine Fest about Hillary's pissant $100K commodities deal, and Martha Stewart's 'Horrible Crime' .. you Republicans are true circus freaks ...that's such bullshit. "well, killing one person isn't a big deal. other folks have killed lots more people." :nonono:

the law is the law and should be enforced across the board.

that's such bullshit. "well, killing one person isn't a big deal. other folks have killed lots more people." :nonono:

the law is the law and should be enforced across the board.

Really? So you think Newt gincgrich should be doing time, too? He looted a hell of a lot of 'defense' pork, not to mention all kinds of other pork, for his 'constituents', far, far more than this pocket change Murtha is alledgedly 'stealing'. Your little article is laughable in the scheme of things.

Republicans and their stooges don't give two shits about the 'laws', and never have; just like you, they're all highly selective about who laws need to be enforced against, i.e. 'everybody else' but Republicans.

the law is the law and should be enforced across the board.

Yeah ... right

If there is something there .. where are the indictments or even investigations ??

You are all "outraged" over mudslinging BS from a questionable (at best) source

This is a two-bit con-repub smear campaign against Murtha simply because he is a credible threat to the chicken-hawk / bushies pro-war agenda

Murtha is simply a tool the democrats are exploiting in a lame attempt to give themselves national defense credibility. He's probably a decent guy who cares very much but is in over his head, as evidenced by his inane idea that we can stabilize Iraq from Japan. Doesn't he see the disconnect there? Why do we have a military presence in Japan in the first place?

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Murtha left Washington and Jefferson College in 1952 to join the Marine Corps. He fought in the Korean War and earned the American Spirit Honor Medal.

"American Spirit Honor Medal". That sounds like a made up medal. Like a medal you give to teenage girls who show good team spirit.

Haha.

In 1959, Murtha, then a captain, took command of the 34th Special Infantry Company, Marine Corps Reserves, in Johnstown

He was in for 7 years?

And the lefties say that is a lifetime of service?

Well he did win the team spirit award for his famous bake sales that raised money for his whole teams new sexy skirt outfits.

Vietnam War, serving from 1966 to 1967, serving as a battalion staff officer (S-2 Intelligence Section), receiving the Bronze Star with Valor device, two Purple Hearts and the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry. He retired from the Reserves as a colonel in 1990, receiving the Navy Distinguished Service Meda

Wow. He got alot of awards for being a brass flunkie.

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This link was titled "From ABSCAM to Amscray". Hilarious. I guess they are not fans of yet another fake military hero from the democrat side of the aisle.

I thank and honor Mr. Murtha for his past military service. Just as he should thank and honor our current troops, rather than stab them in the back by giving our enemy the hope we will surrender even after we have won.

The person writing this probably thinks that he has to qualify his remarks by saying that he thanks and honors Mullah Murtha. I don't.

The fact is that WE don't honor and thank General Arnold's past military service.

By the way, ABSCAM is a scandal you hardly ever see trotted out nowadays. If you do see some remembrance of it, it is very rare to see any description of the party affiliation of those involved.

Of course we know why. The perps (one Senator, six Representatives.) were all but one Democrats. Oddly enough, the lone Republican, Richard Kelly, is the one we always hear about

Well of course the media focuses on the lone Republican because the media is filled with leftist lemming morons and democrat backers like Dan Blather. {who by the way had an ignomious departure from the scene, what an *********

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Murtha :

he has also long downplayed the controversy and bitterness surrounding the two Purple Hearts he was awarded for military service in Vietnam.

Because he is one of the only staff flunkies in the history of warfare to get awards for injuries while serving 150 miles away from the action!!!!!1

Really? So you think Newt gincgrich should be doing time, too? He looted a hell of a lot of 'defense' pork, not to mention all kinds of other pork, for his 'constituents', far, far more than this pocket change Murtha is alledgedly 'stealing'. Your little article is laughable in the scheme of things.pay attention. i didn't say anyone should be in jail, now did i write the article. try using your head for something other than a hat rack.

Republicans and their stooges don't give two shits about the 'laws', and never have; just like you, they're all highly selective about who laws need to be enforced against, i.e. 'everybody else' but Republicans.because you know me, right?:rolleyes:

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"American Spirit Honor Medal". That sounds like a made up medal. Like a medal you give to teenage girls who show good team spirit.

Haha.i guess your medals have cooler sounding names?



He was in for 7 years?

And the lefties say that is a lifetime of service?1952 to 1990 is 7 years? you should really stop. you're not helping. you look like an idiot.

i guess your medals have cooler sounding names?


One does.

1952 to 1990 is 7 years? you should really stop. you're not helping. you look like an idiot

You didn't read the article. He was only active duty for seven years.

He volunteered in Vietnam to help facilitate a run for office, just like Kerry.

He didn't serve for 37 years in the sense that he tries to make it sound like.

And his service doesn't mean shit!

Where was he at Concord? Lexington? Antietam?

See the problem is that he did exactly that to a member of Congress. Like his mere presence in the hq qualifies him for an extra heaping of listenability.

Ask the Democrats. the Republicans are a far bigger problem regarding corruption and thievery than some specious 'Swift Boat' style claims in a partisan article whining about Murtha. It's like cops focusing on a litterbug while a Baptist machine guns a schoolyard full of kids 10 feet away.

You have a short memory. The democrats are still leading republicans in the scandals department. It was'nt all that long ago that 'crats enjoyed a majority in both houses, a position they used to great effect in lining their own pockets. Republicans are the neophytes.

This is a two-bit con-repub smear campaign against Murtha simply because he is a credible threat to the chicken-hawk / bushies pro-war agenda

I don't believe he's a threat to anything, with the exception of his own political future. His statements get a little more bizzare each day, and while he no doubt has something of a dedicated following, he appeals only to one very narrow segment of society, and will never enjoy wide popularity. He's nuts, and perhaps a little senile, (the perfect political man for the Kos Kids).

Ask the Democrats. the Republicans are a far bigger problem regarding corruption and thievery than some specious 'Swift Boat' style claims in a partisan article whining about Murtha. It's like cops focusing on a litterbug while a Baptist machine guns a schoolyard full of kids 10 feet away.

No, I'm asking you. What's YOUR limit of democrat corruption before you shrug it off with "the other side does it more"? Or should the city put all the meter maids on murder patrols?

Take a stand against murder and the Republican/right-wing/ attack/smear machine will be out to get you.

I'd call it sad,but it's actually scummy.:mad:

Take a stand against murder and the Republican/right-wing/ attack/smear machine will be out to get you.

I'd call it sad,but it's actually scummy.:mad:

To whom has this happened? Murtha can't even prove murder happened.

You didn't read the article. He was only active duty for seven years.

He volunteered in Vietnam to help facilitate a run for office, just like Kerry.

He didn't serve for 37 years in the sense that he tries to make it sound like.

And his service doesn't mean shit!

Where was he at Concord? Lexington? Antietam?

See the problem is that he did exactly that to a member of Congress. Like his mere presence in the hq qualifies him for an extra heaping of listenability.sorry, but service in the reserves is service. do they exagerate his "hero" staus i'm sure, but for you to say his service doesn't mean anything is extremely hipocritical. you sound like the angry, hateful dittohead the "left" complains about. you destroy your own credibility when you say such things.

To whom has this happened? Murtha can't even prove murder happened.
that was my point in this thread. if there is such an "attack machine", why isn't this on the front page of every paper?