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rascal 06-19-2006, 05:32 PM Flying a Plane Into the World Trade Center? Why Not Fly Out of LaGuardia?
Here is a new, and so far unasked question about the badly debunked official explanation of the events of September 11th 2001. If you spend years planning a spectacular attack the World Trade Center in New York City, and you are a less than adequate pilot, and you wanted to ensure the attack would be completed without giving the U.S. air defense apparatus the chance to follow their normal procedures and intercept your plane, why would you choose to fly out of Boston? Why would you choose to risk getting lost or stopped as you try to fly 190 miles to your target when you can hijack a plane from one of three airports within sight of the target?
There are three airports that would enable a pilot or a hijacker to have visual contact with the World Trade Center within a minute or two of takeoff. With all the planning these so called hijackers must have made, how stupid would they have to have been to travel to Boston in order to attack NY? We have been told that the so-called hijackers were barely able to pilot even simple two seater aircraft, but we are supposed to believe that they felt confident enough to navigate to NY from Boston without the help of ground control. Are we to believe that i they would not have flown out an airport from which they had constant visual contact with their target? Also keep in mind that planes taking off from these NY area airports would have more fuel remaining in their tanks when they made contact. They would not have to burn off 45 minutes worth of destructive explosive fuel.
Here is why they had to fly out of Boston:
Full blog:
http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=396
For skeptics and non believers...please, please...watch this FREE online video...before you start throwing tin hat barbs. Important documentary.
http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/watch_loose_change_2_on_line.html
Danza 06-19-2006, 05:57 PM Im not going to say your exactly right. Since this is from an article but this article is exactly right. Howq come no one has ever made this connection before? It is so obvious. I even think they murdered the people on the plane so they werent an inconvience. Horrible people and this is the same people working for you in the government.
rascal 06-19-2006, 06:11 PM The topic of the holes in the official story of 9/11 is taboo. It is not allowed to be raised anywhere in the mainstream media. I doubt many people know that there was an international conference on 9/11 last week in Chicago!
The people who attended were from some of the most respected areas of life....academics, scientists, researchers, journalists, - on and on. Their main goal was to RAISE THE QUESTIONS that have not been answered. No one will permit that to be done in a forum that reaches the public. The conference was totally ignored.
The editor of TVNL who wrote this blog was a presenter at the conference. He showed how the mainstream media has been complicit in blocking all discussion of the official story which is so full of holes as to be laughable.
If you want a recap and to see some photos...and to add your own comments, see these blogs:
http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=390
http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=391
http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=392
Danza 06-19-2006, 06:16 PM I know. This should just further the proof that the government caused 9/11. I have been a firm believer of this for a long time now. When i try to speak of this to people they look at me becuase im crazy. This is becuase the government is brainwashing the American people into believing what they wnat to believe. I think there holding Osama Bin laden somewhere. They probally made a deal with him. It's like "Hey we blame all this on you and we put you into a comfortable hiding place". This is all governments doing. The sooner the American citizens know the truth the better.
rascal 06-19-2006, 06:31 PM They just don't care about what's really happening in this country. They have no clue about the evil these men are doing right here at home...and how our rights are being taken away little by little. It's very scary. Just get people to read this and to see the video. The more people whom we can get to think...the better.
Danza 06-19-2006, 06:33 PM Yes, rascal if America ignores the truth it's not going to be good. I mean if it is proven to the government that america is easily fooled. Think what other evil they will want to accomplish.
rascal 06-19-2006, 06:35 PM This has been the most secretive government in history. They do terrible thigs and cover them up by insisting that any inquiry is a threat to national security. They have us scared....that's what they needed on 9/11 - and will continue to do that as they take more and more power. The people will get what they deserve. Ignorance has a price.
lilnymph 06-19-2006, 06:42 PM My gosh yes. A government that can't keep the fact the president is having a "cigar" with an intern in a locked, guarded, room with no witnesses, from the public obviously can keep a consipiracy of this size, with the thousands of people who must have been involved, secret, without even 1 person talking......
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lilnymph
Danza 06-19-2006, 06:46 PM My gosh yes. A government that can't keep the fact the president is having a "cigar" with an intern in a locked, guarded, room with no witnesses, from the public obviously can keep a consipiracy of this size, with the thousands of people who must have been involved, secret, without even 1 person talking......
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lilnymph
People are talking! Also you cant compare the president smoking a cigar with a government purposely killing thousands of people. The only reason it isnt talked about much in the media is becuase the government doesnt want it to be! The government doesn't care about a little scandal. They do care about letting the truth out and causing a riot.
Danza 06-19-2006, 09:31 PM We need to do something to stop it.
Betty 06-19-2006, 10:25 PM http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/ytteB/tinfoil-hat.jpg
orangikan 06-20-2006, 09:42 AM http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/ytteB/tinfoil-hat.jpg
:nice: :nice: :nice: :D Is he a remote controlled humanoid?
Ed Toner 06-20-2006, 01:33 PM What gets me is the fact that they could fly B-757- 767's at all. These guys had very little flying experience, and only one or two had any heavy experience, and that was in a B-727 Simulator, never in the air.
After 25 years of flying airliners of all types, I found the checkout on the B-767 to be quite difficult. The cockpit and panel were nothing like I had ever seen, the so called "Greenhouse" cockpit, refering to all the glass.
I watched the video's of the suicide pilots over and over, and they did a nice job of flying. Nice turns using the proper amount of bank, they held their altitude in the turns, never flinched before hitting their targets, etc..
Of course, we have no video's of the let down from cruising altitude, but they managed to do it without tearing the wings off, or stalling/spinning etc.. This shows good management of airspeed, using the throttles properly, holding the right attitude for a descent, then leveling off apparently with minimum difficulty. etc...
I'd like to know "Where do we get such men?"
caddis 06-20-2006, 02:03 PM Here is a new, and so far unasked question about the badly debunked official explanation of the events of September 11th 2001.
Badly debunked is the most accurate thing someone from the tin-foil crowd has ever said :nice:
Why criticize a plan that worked? Maybe the original plan had to do with factors such as cross country flights (loaded with fuel), sychronized flights (4 planes), airport security be lax in one airport and tighter in another, enough time after liftoff to be sure of controlling the plane,...
Here is why they had to fly out of Boston: it is because the real planes had to be switched with the remote controlled modified 737s that actually impacted the towers. Yes, planes did hit the towers and the Pentagon, but not the planes that we have been told. I am convinced based on the current body of evidence, that the planes that hit the towers were 737s flown by remote control and that a Skywarrior hit the Pentagon.
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fenianforever1689 06-20-2006, 02:08 PM Islamic mutants flew planes into the buildings in NYC, Washington D.C., and a field in Pennslyvania.
Period. End of story. Dot bingo.
Banana-King 06-20-2006, 04:37 PM My gosh yes. A government that can't keep the fact the president is having a "cigar" with an intern in a locked, guarded, room with no witnesses, from the public obviously can keep a consipiracy of this size, with the thousands of people who must have been involved, secret, without even 1 person talking......
Unless of course the only reason Clinton was found out is that people in high places wanted him taken down.
And the "without even 1 person talking" is easily explained. People involved in the conspiracy don't nessisarilly know every little detail about it, they just get some order from higher up and follow through. ANd the ones who do know many details either know they would be killed for revealing anything or wanted it to happen.
lilnymph 06-20-2006, 04:41 PM Unless of course the only reason Clinton was found out is that people in high places wanted him taken down.
And the "without even 1 person talking" is easily explained. People involved in the conspiracy don't nessisarilly know every little detail about it, they just get some order from higher up and follow through. ANd the ones who do know many details either know they would be killed for revealing anything or wanted it to happen.
Ok, how is someone in this conspiracy going to kill someone who has revealed it to the chinese? or the Iranians? or the French? any of these countries would LOVE to know the detail to embaress america, and are more than capable of protecting someone.
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lilnymph
Banana-King 06-20-2006, 04:50 PM Ok, how is someone in this conspiracy going to kill someone who has revealed it to the chinese? or the Iranians? or the French? any of these countries would LOVE to know the detail to embaress america, and are more than capable of protecting someone.
Could you imagine a high ranking agent in the CIA defecting to China?
Danza 06-21-2006, 06:26 PM Badly debunked is the most accurate thing someone from the tin-foil crowd has ever said :nice:
Why criticize a plan that worked? Maybe the original plan had to do with factors such as cross country flights (loaded with fuel), sychronized flights (4 planes), airport security be lax in one airport and tighter in another, enough time after liftoff to be sure of controlling the plane,...
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It's not cuckoo it makes perfect sense.
Betrade 06-21-2006, 07:49 PM We have kids flying fighter jets in combat as we speak. Some have gone form high school to flight school in a couple of years and into action, and have done so quite successfully.
The idea that it takes some kind of genius with extremely rare skills to fly a jet into a huge building is absolutely ridiculous.
The ability and talent to play major league baseball is more rare than the ability to pull off a WTC style atack; relatively speaking. To put a jet in a particular location requires more computer perogramming ability than flying ability. Jets aren't even landed manually anymore, and they haven't been for quite some time. The computers do the job while the crew goes along for the ride.
The conspspiracy freaks have no real proof to back up their claims, and until they do, it's all speculation and theory. If actual proof should present itself, then I'll gladly look into it with an open mind, but until that happens (which will probably never happen), I'll stick to the official story.
Going back a few years, no one ever dreamed that anyone would detonate a bomb in the WTC as they did in 93', but they did so successfully. In 01', they simply regrouped, created a new plan, and finished the job that they had already started.
Danza 06-21-2006, 08:00 PM Then how do you explain how the towers fell so fast? It fell so neatly just like someone detonated a bomb inside the building. How do you explain that?
jwreck 06-21-2006, 09:33 PM Then how do you explain how the towers fell so fast? It fell so neatly just like someone detonated a bomb inside the building. How do you explain that?
:bang: :bang: :bang: :bang:
Betty 06-21-2006, 09:41 PM I dunno, maybe because they were hit by big ass ****ing airliners flying at hundreds of miles per hour?
:bang::bang::bang::bang:
angelone 06-21-2006, 11:56 PM I know. This should just further the proof that the government caused 9/11. I have been a firm believer of this for a long time now. When i try to speak of this to people they look at me becuase im crazy. This is becuase the government is brainwashing the American people into believing what they wnat to believe. I think there holding Osama Bin laden somewhere. They probally made a deal with him. It's like "Hey we blame all this on you and we put you into a comfortable hiding place". This is all governments doing. The sooner the American citizens know the truth the better.
I have heard this before, and if you really think about it. It would be impossible, to carry out, with the media, and leaks. Not to mention, you have to choreograph hundreds of people, you are also saying the Government was involved, but most people that work for Government have many different views. So getting hundreds of people, Government workers, civilian workers etc, is illogical thinking. Thats Hollywood. As a matter of fact, the buildings were not built to with stand 747s impact. The fasteners that held the building together, was not sprayed with firestop, and when the heat from the explosion caused the fasteners to snap, causing a collapse, the engineer admits the errors that caused the fall of the buildings
Betrade 06-22-2006, 07:59 PM Then how do you explain how the towers fell so fast? It fell so neatly just like someone detonated a bomb inside the building. How do you explain that?
The actual design of the towers were their fatal flaw in the end.
The load bearing structure was the outer skeleton; not inner vertical columns. It was a reveloutinary design which allowed lots of wide open space on the inside. Unfortunately, it led to a collapse, but not before allowing enough time to evacuate thousands of people. Remember, most of the people got out, because the buildings held the load as long as they could under the circumstances.
There were no detonations that brought them down. It was simpley that the airliners blew away enough fireproofing material to allow the heat to weaken the floor beams.
The claim that the heat from the fuel wouldn't be enough to do it totally discounts all of the other flammable material that was ignited from the crash.
It's easily explained and understood to anyone who wants to know. Those who refuse to see the facts, will never be convinced.
There have been numerous claims that the WTC was the ONLY building in history to pancake under it's own weight. That's pure BS that doesn't hold up under the least bit of scrutiny. It's happened plenty of times, and will happen again somehwere, at some time.
The whole conspiracy story falls apart with very little explanation. It reminds me of the "Duh" Vinci Code. A little truth is mixed with many falsehoods, and a closer look shows something entirely different then what's being presented as "fact" and ultmately, the story falls on it's face.
Ed Toner 06-22-2006, 08:32 PM Betrade - Exactly. The advantage of this construction is that there are no internal vertical column necessary, giving un-interepted floor space.
The Architect was Japanese.
Osama bin Laden is a construction engineer, so PERHAPS this is what made the Twin Towers a target.
caddis 06-24-2006, 10:29 PM It's not cuckoo it makes perfect sense.Wrong...it's nucking futs
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