The next issue of Billboard magainze will show that The Dixie Chicks' new album Taking The Long Way will not only debut at Number One on the Pop Album Chart [like I predcited to friends that it would],but it will also debut at Number One on the Country Album chart ,something that I did not expect.

This is very signficant,especially the stong Country sales in spite of the anti-war/anti-Bush controversy,the fact the album didn't get any country airplay and the fact that it really isn't a country album.

Then again,in the alte 80s people like Lyle Lovett,Steve Earle and K D Lang had Top Ten Country albums that got no airplay and were musically non-traditional.

Not to mention a poll that showed country fans were one-third of conservsvative ,one-third liberal and one-third moderate.

Which shows that many country fans are far ahead of country radio.

I like their music, but from what I read, there was a lot of backlash from their comments a few years ago :shrug:

I like their music, but from what I read, there was a lot of backlash from their comments a few years ago :shrug:

There indeed was a lot of backlash,but not all country fans [or all of anybody else in any demographic] are alike.

I'm reading a incredible book called Rednecks And Bluenecks: The Politics of Country Music.

Bluenecks are liberals/leftists who listen to and/or perform country music and/or work in the industry [I am all-around music junkie ,but since that includes country ,I guess I am a Blueneck].

Now,it's possible the backlash came from Red State country fans and that their supporters are Blue State country fans [not to mention a lot of people in the swing or "purple " states].

But even then ,Red State America [for lack of a better term] does not represent all Americans or even all country fans.

The book has a interview by the leader of the band Drive-by Truckers [I love that name],he 's a leftie who comes from Alabama which is as Red State as you can get and he says that even in a sate like Alabama about 40% of the people are liberal which makes them a minority but a large minority.

The Chicks, the Drive-by Truckers, Lyle Lovett, and Steve Earle are some of my very favorite acts. I've seen Steve in concert in Tulsa, and he was awesome. I will see the Chicks when they come to Vegas. The new album kick ass.

WTG Dixie Chicks :D :nice: i haven't bought their album yet but i will be shortly... and to all those who destroyed your Dixie Chicks cds and supported the radio boycotts of their music and said their career was over eat my shorts :|

If you're going to make people eat your shorts, you should at least provide some steak sauce or something! :eek:

:p ;) :D

If you're going to make people eat your shorts, you should at least provide some steak sauce or something! :eek:

:p ;) :D


:eek7:

If you're going to make people eat your shorts, you should at least provide some steak sauce or something! :eek:

:p ;) :D

:rofl:

I should think that a nice RED HOT/TABASCO/PEPPER sauce on the order of CHALULAH would be more in order for such culinary endeavours....:D

Seriously, though I'm mwith The DIXIE CHICKS on THIS one...:nice:

Besides, even WITHOUT the First Amendment having been applicable what with their being here in the U.K. & NOT in The States at the time of comment.......

Is there not, at least, the quote by VOLTAIRE being JUST as VALID?

I may mot agree with what you say, but I defend to the death your right to say it!:hmm:

Besides, even WITHOUT the First Amendment having been applicable what with their being here in the U.K. & NOT in The States at the time of comment.......

Well, the First Amendment prohibits the gub'mint from impeding on someone's free speech... individuals are allowed to crush CDs and keep you off the radio and decry what you say...

...though the hicks that did that to the Chicks are still retarded.

the hicks that did that to the Chicks are still retarded.


:yeahthat:

They were just on Larry King Live. They are so the bomb. I love these chicks.

They are one of the few artists that I buy cds of, then again I lived near them back when they were a quad playing small pubs, street corners and community colleges.

BTW, if you buy it at best buy it has a bonus song

I find it comical, in a sad sense of the word, that they were bashed and almost driven out of country music for saying something that a huge percentage of America thought in the first place... they just stood up and said it.

The next issue of Billboard magainze will show that The Dixie Chicks' new album Taking The Long Way will not only debut at Number One on the Pop Album Chart [like I predcited to friends that it would],but it will also debut at Number One on the Country Album chart ,something that I did not expect.

This is very signficant,especially the stong Country sales in spite of the anti-war/anti-Bush controversy,the fact the album didn't get any country airplay and the fact that it really isn't a country album.

Then again,in the alte 80s people like Lyle Lovett,Steve Earle and K D Lang had Top Ten Country albums that got no airplay and were musically non-traditional.

Not to mention a poll that showed country fans were one-third of conservsvative ,one-third liberal and one-third moderate.

Which shows that many country fans are far ahead of country radio.
The Chicks KICK ASS!

:nice:

Well i love their old stuff but have not heard their new stuff. Are they on the radio a lot?

meh, didn't like 'em before their comments, didn't like 'em after. :shrug:

The Chicks, the Drive-by Truckers, Lyle Lovett, and Steve Earle are some of my very favorite acts.



They are all faves of mine too.

They are one of the few artists that I buy cds of, then again I lived near them back when they were a quad playing small pubs, street corners and community colleges.


Do you have any of the albums hye made when they were a local/regional act?


BTW, if you buy it at best buy it has a bonus song

Damn,I wish I knew that before I bought my copy elsewhere.

I find it comical, in a sad sense of the word, that they were bashed and almost driven out of country music for saying something that a huge percentage of America thought in the first place... they just stood up and said it.
What is significant about this album is they refuse to apologise.

Last week Natalie Maines said "I'm not sorry for not wanting people to be killed and wishing we exhausted all other possibilities before going to war as a last resort".

The album's single "Not Ready To Make Nice " is one of the most moving pieces of music I've ever heard in all my years,some of it's lyrics say it's sad "When a mother teaches her daughter to hate a total stranger.And how can something I said send somebody so over the edge that they write me a letter saying to shut up and sing or my life will be over".

Then the chours goes "I'm not readyto make nice,I'm not ready to back down ,I'm still mad as hell".


Well i love their old stuff but have not heard their new stuff. Are they on the radio a lot?

"Not Ready To Make Nice" hit Number 38 on the Country Singles /Album Tracks Chart and Number 32 on the Adult Contemporay Chart.


But those charts are based only on radio airplay [most radio stations are owned by Clear Channel ,Clear Channel is owned by Republicans who do let their personal politics influence their programming decisions],the Pop and Country Album Charts are based only on sales and that's what makes this news so significant.

What is significant about this album is they refuse to apologise.

Should they apologize for something they believe in? I don't think so.

Should they apologize for something they believe in? I don't think so.
I don't think so either and that's what I mean ,they rightfully refused to apologise and most rock and country fans still support them.

They are all faves of mine too.

You like Drive-By Truckers and not Lynyrd Skynyrd?:confused: That's wierd:hmm: .


By the way, I've seen DBT live over a year ago, they were very good:nice:

This just goes to prove people like horrible music.....:D

You like Drive-By Truckers and not Lynyrd Skynyrd?:confused: That's wierd:hmm: .


1. I don't think the two bands are very simular at all [DBT has much better songwriting in my view].

2.I didn't say the original Skynyrd had no merit and didn't do any good music,I said they are not my cup of tea and I'm not that impressed by their songwriting.

3.The original Lynyrd Skynyrd [which stoped existing in 1977] and the later Lynyrd Skynyrd are two different bands,there is no real linkage.

4. DBT's leader Preston Hood loves the original Skynyrd ,hates the later Skynyrd [nothing to do with me but I thought you'd like to know].



By the way, I've seen DBT live over a year ago, they were very good:nice:

Glad to hear.

prove people like horrible music



True,but we're not talking about Toby Keith now.:D

True,but we're not talking about Toby Keith now.

That song he did with Willie Nelson about smoking weed was excellent, but as for the rest, I have to agree.

1. I don't think the two bands are very simular at all [DBT has much better songwriting in my view].

I like DBT a lot, but as someone who saw both bands live (although not the original Skynyrd, of course, unfortunately)...they are pretty much poor man's skynyrd. Great musicians, very good performers, very nice songs...but it's hard to argue that they are any better than Skynyrd anymore than Phish are better than Grateful Dead or Green Day greater than Clash:rolleyes: .

Having said that, I would still love to see them live again, and the album about Lynyrd Skynyrd that they made has some very impressive songwriting (many very true messages):nice:.


2.I didn't say the original Skynyrd had no merit and didn't do any good music,I said they are not my cup of tea and I'm not that impressed by their songwriting.

"Call Me The Breeze" (NOT their song actually) is one of the best recordings ever...I'm more impressed with the performance of the band itself rather as songwriting in general...I can't argue that "Freebird" or "Sweet Home Alabama" and some others wouldn't have been such great songs if somebody else did them. Although many songs such as "Ballad of Curtis Lowe", "Whiskey Rock&Roller", "I Know Little" or "Saturday Night Special" are amazing.

3.The original Lynyrd Skynyrd [which stoped existing in 1977] and the later Lynyrd Skynyrd are two different bands,there is no real linkage.

I agree. But they are (or at least were when Leon was still alive) great. I've seen them when they had 3 original members and while of course it's NOTHING like with Ronnie, Steve Gaines or Alan Collins, it was still great, their musicianship was amazing and Johnny sings and looks a lot like his older brother.

I don't really care as much for their new stuff for the most part, so when I say "Lynyrd Skynyrd" I usually mean the original band.

4. DBT's leader Preston Hood loves the original Skynyrd ,hates the later Skynyrd [nothing to do with me but I thought you'd like to know].

That's interesting:hmm: . What did he say about it?:confused:

Lynyrd Skynyrd??? Well, nobody claims musicians can't have horrible taste in music, do they ...

Congrats to the DC. I don't listen to them much, I spend my bucks on Allyson Kraus and Emmy Lou Harris, and that all I have time for these days, and I plenty of 'old' stuff and don't need hardly anything 'new'; most of the 'new' stuff is just updated copies of 'old' stuff, anyway.

Glad to hear Lovett, Lang, and Earle are getting by, especially Earle. I like them all, and Earle's music too, but I won't see him live again; the times I've caught his shows he spent more time preaching at the audience than playing, and I don't need preaching to, as I've heard it all and know it by heart, as do most of his audience, so it's just conceit on his part. Not that anybody expects musicians to not be conceited, but, really ...

I wish Dolly P. would write more of her Bluegrass Blues and put out another album with just that on it. She's a great songwriter, and I don't see that gets much acclaim for her 'serious' stuff. And, her winsome style of singing on those numbers are up there with the best talents of all time.

The Dixie Chicks ticket sales and record sales will be the "band-aid" they deserve for putting up with such bull-$#@! from the so called the right wing fanatical Christian war monger wackos that support our too soon to be lame duck president.

I did see the Larry King interview, a caller made a very interesting comment about why our Secretary of Defense wouldn't do Larry K. Live but the Chicks did. HUMMMMMMMM very interesting.

I plan on buying the new CD, thanks for this thread.

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That's interesting:hmm: . What did he say about it?:confused:


He [Preston Hood I think his name is]said that the Skynyrd he loved died in 1977 and that the post-crash Skynyrd is not a rock band but a "new country" band who have more in common with Toby Keith than with Bruce Springsteen.


He also despises the post-crash Skynyrd's ultr-jinogistic song "Red,White And Blue".







especially Earle. I like them all, and Earle's music too, but I won't see him live again; the times I've caught his shows he spent more time preaching at the audience than playing, and I don't need preaching to, as I've heard it all and know it by heart, as do most of his audience, so it's just conceit on his part. Not that anybody expects musicians to not be conceited, but, really ...


Well,I agree with what he says and would be disapointed if he didn't say it.:D

I mean Steve is extroverted.

Have you read his biography?

I've always loved his music as a perfromer and songwriter and I can realte to him on the surfice,he's roughly the same age as me,like me has little formal education but an outstanding intellect, a simular musical and poltical philososphy to myself etc.,but I can't realte at alll to a lot of what he's done in his personal life.

But [to his credit] he's alwys been honest about it too,he's never sugarcoated it and he came out of the abysss to make soemthing good out of his life and I do admire that,and so did Bill Monroe who went out of his way to shake Steve Earle's hand publicy [even though Bill wasn't long for this world and it took a lot for him to even get out of the house ]and let everyone he admired Steve Earle for coming out of the abyss.

Never read his bio. Seen his act twice in clubs, and listened to his music a lot on some NPR shows that played him and other 'alternative country' artists every weeknight around here, and a couple of other stations quite bit, when I worked nights. Seen the PBS and CMT specials on him, and the Johnny Cash Tribute he was on ...

The Dixie Chicks ticket sales and record sales will be the "band-aid" they deserve for putting up with such bull-$#@! from the so called the right wing fanatical Christian war monger wackos that support our too soon to be lame duck president.


Right on!

I did see the Larry King interview, a caller made a very interesting comment about why our Secretary of Defense wouldn't do Larry K. Live but the Chicks did. HUMMMMMMMM very interesting.

:nice:

I plan on buying the new CD,

:nice: ,it's a great one.


thanks for this thread.

Newbie


You're welcome.

I already have my tickets to see em here. Theres like 5 of us going. :D

They rock. Ive always loved them.

Ive had "voice inside my head" Stuck in my head all day lol

TT, this a great thread man. I saw the Dixie Chicks interview with Larry King. They deserve all the praise they're receiving for their new album. They took ALOT of heat for the comments they made about Mr. Bush and his policies. Success is the best form of revenge.

I'll do a review off the album soon,but it's the busy season where I work and I've got a lot of overtime to put in this wekend.

Well,Taking The Long Way by The Dixie Chicks is Number One on both the Pop and Country album charts for the second week in a row.

Interestingly ,tickets for their upcoming tour have been selling very poorly in Red States like Oaklahoma and Tennesee,but have been selling out very quickly in Blue States and in Canada.

The Red State dates have been dropped [for the time being,they may be rescheduled once the tour gets under way in the U.S.] and more shows in Blue States and Canada have been added.

Incidently,some promoters in the Red States say they've been told that Bush or the war isn't the reason for the slow sales, the reason is the economy in these states is poor and people can't pay $110.00 [before service charges]for tickets.

it's sad that the only reason some people love/hate them is because of some stupid comments they made

After three weeks Taking The Long Way has fallen from Number One on the Pop Album Chart to Number Two.

However,Taking The Long Way remains Number One on the Country Album chart for the third week in a row.:nice:

This means that myself and hundreds of thousands of other Bluenecks have spoken!:usa:


And by the way,Taking The Long Way has sold three times what Toby Keith's latest album has sold [who put a boot up whose ass?:rofl:].

what's with your obsession with toby keith?

Well,what's with some people's obsession with The Dixie Chicks?

I don't mean to rag on Toby Keith,many people I respect say he's a decent guy,but he did kind of start all of this with his song "The Angry Amercian".

Even a thoughtful conservative like Ronnie Dunn [whom I've seen in concert by the way] says he doesn't care for the ultra-jingoistic lyric : "We'll put a boot up your ass,it's the American way",this all really started when Natalie Manies said that song makes country music look ignorant,well I agree with her.

And I think it was hateful for Toby Keith to show a doctored picture of Natalie and Saddamn during some of his shows,he did have it taken down eventually,but he still had it put up in the first place.

Now ,I will say this in Toby Ketih's defense: While I've always loved The Dixie Chicks,I think their song "Goodbye Earl" was the same kind kind of shameless pandering that "The Angry American" and the apolitical Gretchen Willson's "Redneck Woman" are and I don't like any of those songs,I don't like songs that pander.

Having said,I think "We'll put a boot in your ass,it's the American way" is about as ignorant a lyric as popular music has ever gotten.

Taking The Long Way is still Number One on the country album charts,still Top Five pop and is now Paltnum.

Which makes The Dixie Chicks the first female band to have five consecutive Platnum albums.

Which makes The Dixie Chicks the first female band to have five consecutive Platnum albums.

that does not surprise me in the least... the country scene has never been the same since they came along :)

That is interesting. The Dixie Chicks are a good band. But I thought they had to cancel some shows or soemthing. Or am I getting this mixed up with something else? In any case, some of their songs are good. I wonder what Fleetwood Mac thought of them redoing FM's song. DC did a good job. At first, I thought that Fleetwood Mac was redoing it for a concert show, but someone told me that Dixie Chicks did this. I was astounded as to how good they redid it. What's your opinion of this verion of the song?

Dixie Chicks - Landslide
http://www.napster.com/player/tracks/11774456

More : www.cmt.com/artists/news/1535538/06302006/dixie_chicks.jhtml

.but it's hard to argue that they are any better than Skynyrd anymore than Phish are better than Grateful Dead or Green Day greater than Clash:rolleyes: .


Did you just pull those bands out of a hat, or am I missing the analogy's your making?

There's a good quote from Natalie Maines here : www.musicrowdemocrats.com.

After six consecutvie weeks at Number One on the Country Album Chart Taking The Long Way has finally dropped to Number Two ,but even then it took Johnny Cash's long-awaited last album to do it and Taking The Long Way is still top five on both the country and album charts.

Taking The Long Way still reamins number one in the Internet Sales Album chart [the Cash album-ironically also produced by Rick Rubin- is number two].

is it really noteworthy to be ahead of the likes of paris hilton? modern music of sucks a$$. to paraphrase a great line "being number one nowadays is like being the smartest kid with down syndrome!!". :eek7: