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oki
05-11-2006, 06:13 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4755701.stm

"The people find this very funny," said the young man. "They say this isn't a song because this man isn't singing, he is talking."

From the car stereo came the sound of looped drums and a thudding bass-line topped by the machine-gun delivery of a man rapping in the style of America's gangsta rap stars.

To the delight of the young, Western dressed Kabulis in the car next to me, he was rapping in Dari.

"I like it very much," the man went on. "Lots of Afghan men like me who know English have heard foreign rap music. But now we have it in our own language."

While the arrival of rap music in Afghanistan is hugely popular with some young Afghans, it has also caused widespread bemusement and in some cases outright alarm.

"This is too much for Afghanistan," said Akhtar Mohammed, 31, a Kabul shopkeeper who described himself as not particularly conservative.

"This is a new music, which we cannot do like the Westerners, and it will destroy Afghanistan's traditional music."




"People like 50 Cent want to show their money and the 'pimping' side of rap music," he said.

"I want to write about my country and I want to write about love. I don't use swear words and I have even used texts from the Koran in my music."

Besho admits wistfully that one day he hopes to include some of what is called "shaking the booty" into his videos. It is this sort of erotic dance that has the religious establishment up in arms.

"The new generation are impressionable," Maulvi Mohammed Seddiq, former adviser on Sharia law to the Supreme Court says.

"When these dancers are shaking the backside and the front side, this excites the young people. We have less sex crimes in Islam because in Islam we have forbidden the temptations that cause these crimes."

While the conservatives and liberals are at loggerheads over what the future direction of Afghanistan should be, both sides agree that a major underlying fracture is taking place within Afghan society.

"These are revolutionary times in Afghanistan," says Saad Mohseni, the Australian-raised Afghan director of Tolo TV.

"Sixty percent of Afghans are under the age of 20 and they are adapting very fast to a new age. But there is real conflict within families and a definite rift between young and old."

BooRadley
05-11-2006, 06:19 PM
The new generation are impressionable


I don't suppose that he realizes that this has been said by every generation since the dawn of man.


"Sixty percent of Afghans are under the age of 20


Wow! That could be really good with some infrastructure, or really bad without it.

Gibson
05-11-2006, 06:44 PM
Shiggidy Shwa?

http://www.groupxarab.com/

Jay GW
05-11-2006, 09:27 PM
"We have less sex crimes in Islam because in Islam we have forbidden the temptations that cause these crimes."

Don't Middle Eastern countries stone people for adultery?


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oki
05-12-2006, 06:24 AM
yea or worse.
I think the taliban used to chop heads..

86Dude
05-12-2006, 01:09 PM
Rap seems to have a tendency to attract young, dumb, poor or minority people.

Guido
05-12-2006, 01:15 PM
Rap seems to have a tendency to attract young, dumb, poor or minority people.

That hipster holding a guitar in the photo under your name, is that you, dude?

86Dude
05-12-2006, 02:30 PM
If that were me I'd have shot myself 20 years ago.

fat mike
05-12-2006, 11:12 PM
There's an internet Iranian radio station-they play rap sometimes,I like it...
I dont know Farsi but i like it..

oki
05-13-2006, 07:06 AM
like that guy said, maybe US rap nowadays is only about gangs and ho's and money, but hiphop used to have some intelligence, once. and its a great way for young people to speak their minds.

86Dude
05-13-2006, 11:34 AM
I have to admit sometimes I do like it, but in the same way I like weird Al Yankovic. I like making parody of it.

sach
05-13-2006, 11:44 AM
like that guy said, maybe US rap nowadays is only about gangs and ho's and money, but hiphop used to have some intelligence, once. and its a great way for young people to speak their minds.

Saul Williams (http://www.saulwilliams.com/), anyone?

oki
05-13-2006, 05:51 PM
Saul Williams (http://www.saulwilliams.com/), anyone? saul williams totally kicks ass.:nice:

92Notch
05-14-2006, 01:20 AM
I bet that shit is crazy funny to listen to ... gangsta rap .... in arabic (or what ever that language is) .... that shit must sound funny as hell ... can you imagine .... lol

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