Cultural appropriation is the adoption of some specific elements of one culture by a different cultural group. It denotes acculturation, but often connotates a negative view towards acculturation from a minority culture by a dominant culture.

It can include the introduction of forms of dress or personal adornment, music and art, religion, language, or behavior. These elements, once removed from their indigenous cultural contexts, may take on meanings that are significantly divergent from, or merely less nuanced than, those they originally held. Or, they may be stripped of meaning altogether.

The term cultural appropriation can have a negative connotation. It generally is applied when the subject culture is a minority culture or somehow subordinate in social, political, economic, or military status to the appropriating culture; or, when there are other issues involved, such as a history of ethnic or racial conflict between the two groups.

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Is it ok for people to take parts of someone else's culture and use them?


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Yeah. It's always happened. If it didn't, we'd still be living in mud huts praying to Ishtar.

I think it's the way minorities get back at their hosts...

Is it ok for people to take parts of someone else's culture and use them?

Sometimes, yes. Sometimes no. Like in everything man does, sometimes it it's for good, sometimes not.

Your picture is a perfect example of when it is bad. Whites pretending to be black rappers is one of the worst recent examples. Scum-bag, thugism is NOT something to emulate.

What about Blacks saying Whites are trying to "steal" the culture of oppressed peoples?


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Sometimes, yes. Sometimes no. Like in everything man does, sometimes it it's for good, sometimes not.

Your picture is a perfect example of when it is bad. Whites pretending to be black rappers is one of the worst recent examples. Scum-bag, thugism is NOT something to emulate.


Everything has it's limit . I like all kinds of music . I don't think you can really appreciate it any other way . I like black soul music, latan dance and beat , ' I taught my kids and grandkids how to cha cha, Rumba . I like classic music and dance'waltz is a beautiful dance ' . I liked to exercise to MC Hammer,' Can't Touch This ' [too fast for me now ]. And I know that the only music to originate in America is Blues and rock and roll . All others are foeiegn .

But is the lyrics are offensive or vulgar I don't listen to it . I don't have to ,there are too many good songs to listen to that don't make me feel bad about myself .

To allow another culture to replace the existing one means the existing one doesn't exist anymore . In reality one will domminate the other . The idea that we can have this big melting pot of diversity is insane . It only causes war in long run . Unless it has a violent fear based dictatorship, like Hussain and Hitler had for instance . Nations visiting and learning from each other is one thing, but society never has and never will mix cultures successfully where people are free . Check out the world wars going on now . Africa being butchered by the muslems they allowed to enter into their culture . East and west germany , protestants and catholics . Plain and simple it never works ! Even in the millinium ,nations will be nations , not a one world nation, but seperate .

Black music from 1920 to 1978 was excellent.

The black musicians of today are lower than dog shit for the most part.

Black music from 1920 to 1978 was excellent.

The black musicians of today are lower than dog shit for the most part.

The funny thing, though, is that's just what people were saying back then. During the rise of jazz, more established society called it devils music that was going to lead nice young white children to hell. It was considered highly rebellious, vulgar, tasteless, and the product of a "lower" race. Now it's considered classy and tasteful.


As jazz's popularity grew, so did campaigns to censor "the devil's music." Early detractors like Thomas Edison, inventor of the phonograph, ridiculed jazz, saying it sounded better played backwards. A Cincinnati home for expectant mothers won an injunction to prevent construction of a neighboring theater where jazz would be played, convincing a court that the music was dangerous to fetuses. By the end of the 1920s, at least sixty communities across the nation had enacted laws prohibiting jazz in public dance halls.


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/cultureshock/beyond/jazz.html


Jazz originally was the accompaniment of the voodoo dancer, stimulating the half-crazed barbarian to the vilest deeds. The weird chant, accompanied by the syncopated rhythm of the voodoo invokers, has also been employed by other barbaric people to stimulate brutality and sensuality. That it has a demoralizing effect upon the human brain has been demonstrated by many scientists.

There is always a revolutionary period of the breaking down of old conventions and customs which follows after every great war; and this rebellion against existing conditions is to be noticed in all life to-day. Unrest, the desire to break the shackles of old ideas and forms are abroad. So it is no wonder that young people should have become so imbued with this spirit that they should express it in every phase of their daily lives. The question is whether this tendency should be demonstrated in jazz-that expression of protest against law and order, that bolshevik element of license striving for expression in music.

The human organism responds to musical vibrations. This fact is universally recognized. What instincts then are aroused by jazz? Certainly not deeds of valor or martial courage, for all marches and patriotic hymns are of regular rhythm and simple harmony; decidedly not contentment or serenity, for the songs of home and the love of native land are all of the simplest melody and harmony with noticeably regular rhythm. Jazz disorganizes all regular laws and order; it stimulates to extreme deeds, to a breaking away from all rules and conventions; it is harmful and dangerous, and its influence is wholly bad.

A number of scientific men who have been working on experiments in musico-therapy with the insane, declare that while regular rhythms and simple tones produce a quieting effect on the brain of even a violent patient, the effect of jazz on the normal brain produces an atrophied condition on the brain cells of conception, until very frequently those under the demoralizing influence of the persistent use of syncopation, combined with inharmonic partial tones, are actually incapable of distinguishing between good and evil, right and wrong.

Dancing to Mozart minuets, Strauss waltzes and Sousa two-steps certainly never led to the corset-check room, which now holds sway in hotels, clubs and dance halls. Never would one of the biggest fraternities of a great college then have thought it necessary to print on the cards of invitation to the "Junior Prom" that "a corset check room will be provided." Nor would the girl who wore corsets in those days have been dubbed "old ironsides" and left a disconsolate wallflower in a corner of the ballroom. Now boys and girls of good families brazenly frequent the lowest dives in order to learn new dance steps. Now many jazz dances have words accompanying them which would then never have been allowed to go through the mail. Such music has become an influence for evil.

Last winter, at one of the biggest high schools in one of our largest cities, a survey was made of the popular songs of the day by the music supervisor, who suggested that a community sing be held for one assembly each week. He requested the students to bring all the popular songs to school that a choice might be made of what to sing. At the end of two weeks he had in his office over two thousand "best sellers." He asked the student body to appoint from among themselves a committee of six to choose the songs to be sung at the assembly. This committee, after going through the two thousand songs, chose forty as being "fit for boys and girls to sing together." With this evil influence surrounding our coming generation, it is not to be wondered at that degeneracy should be developing so rapidly in America.

In a recent letter to the author, Dr. Henry van Dyke says of jazz, "As I understand it, it is not music at all. It is merely an irritation of the nerves of hearing, a sensual teasing of the strings of physical passion. Its fault lies not in syncopation, for that is a legitimate device when sparingly used. But 'jazz' is an unmitigated cacophony, a combination of disagreeable sounds in complicated discords, a willful ugliness and a deliberate vulgarity." Never in the history of America have we more needed the help and inspiration which good music can and does give. The music department of the General Federation of Women's Clubs has taken for its motto: "To Make Good Music Popular, and Popular Music Good." Let us carry out this motto in every home in America firmly, steadfastly, determinedly, until all the music in our land becomes an influence for good.

From 1921 http://www.assumption.edu/ahc/1920s/Eugenics/DoesJazzPuttheSin.html


By the early 1920s the new sound had spread north. A Chicago newspaper warned that "moral disaster is coming to hundreds of young American girls." The report claimed that, over a two-year period, the Illinois Vigilance Association dis-covered that more than 1,000 local girls had ended up pregnant after listening to jazz music. A Stalinist slogan in the Soviet Union proclaimed: "Today he plays jazz; tomorrow he betrays his country." During the big band era, one expert warned of the "pathological nerve-irritating sex-exciting music of jazz orchestras." In Nazi Germany, it was labelled "****** Jew music."

http://www.canadianchristianity.com/cgi-bin/bc.cgi?bc/bccn/0201/cultural

Just some examples.

The funny thing, though, is that's just what people were saying back then. During the rise of jazz, more established society called it devils music that was going to lead nice young white children to hell. It was considered highly rebellious, vulgar, tasteless, and the product of a "lower" race. Now it's considered classy and tasteful.


That's a great point, honestly, however, I'm just not sure how much lower they can take it.