By and large, they seem to favor illegal immigration to the detriment of everyone else. Are they, like the Muslims, more loyal to 'la Raza' than they are to their host country? The PC nutters will keep telling us, when it is convenient, that despite the multi-culti indoctrination program "we're all Americans".

And yet when the rubber meets the road, when we have our very first REAL TEST, this multi-cult immediately breaks down along ethnic lines. All told there were around a million protestors who came out of the woodwork. And despite the media bs that tried to zoom on the singular American flag amidst the SEA of mexican or south America ones, or the cover up of pro-mexican nuremburg style rallies that call for 'killing all gringos', it's really not hard to see what's going on here.

either they are intellectually incapable to understand that flooding the country with a desperate working class ONLY BENEFITS THE CORPORATIONS and LOWERS YOUR WAGE, or underneath it all they really have been harbouring ambitions of a 'reconquista'.

discuss.

I know there are some hispanics who are also loyal Americans. I can't say what the percentage may be. But, it seems there is a disproportionate number of them that identify themselves primarily by their ethnicity rather than their country.

discuss.

This thread is among the dumbest thumper has created lately, and that's quite an achievement considering that thumper's threads are renowned for their lack of insight.

"they seem"...."they seem""....."they seem"....

Thumper, do you actually know a single Hispanic person in America?


EDIT: Hey, thumper got me and Guido to agree on something....Thumper's a uniter, not a divider!

I know there are some hispanics who are also loyal Americans. I can't say what the percentage may be. But, it seems there is a disproportionate number of them that identify themselves primarily by their ethnicity rather than their country.is this percentage large enough to condemn the hispanic klan or the 'reconquista'?

if not, they are as worthless as the 'moderate' muslims.

"they seem"...."they seem""....."they seem"....

Thumper, do you actually know a single Hispanic person in America?


EDIT: Hey, thumper got me and Guido to agree on something....Thumper's a uniter, not a divider!can you link me to a pro-American hispanic rally, which is ANYTHING on par with the pro-illegal invasion crowd that turn out a few weeks ago?

This thread is among the dumbest thumper has created lately,


True, but to be fair, he hasn't started many threads lately.

can you link me to a pro-American hispanic rally, which is ANYTHING on par with the pro-illegal invasion crowd that turn out a few weeks ago?
Did you fail to notice the sea of american flags in the rallys?

can you link me to a pro-American hispanic rally, which is ANYTHING on par with the pro-illegal invasion crowd that turn out a few weeks ago?

I'll take that as a "no mandrake, as a matter of fact I don't know a single hispanic in America".

Not that I really needed you to state as much, as it comes through rather obviously in your posts.

Did you fail to notice the sea of american flags in the rallys?:eek7:

example?

True, but to be fair, he hasn't started many threads lately.

I hope you aren't wasting any time counting them.

I'll take that as a "no mandrake, as a matter of fact I don't know a single hispanic in America".

Not that I really needed you to state as much, as it comes through rather obviously in your posts.does the word 'strawman' mean anything to you?

here is a 'La Raza' rally

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM9uH4XgOmI

Any meaningful resistence to this coming from the hispanic community?

:eek7:

example?
http://www.cbsnews.com/images/2006/04/11/imageWX10604102342.jpg

http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2006/04/15/PH2006041501283.jpg

EDIT: Hey, thumper got me and Guido to agree on something....Thumper's a uniter, not a divider!

Not only that, but I agree with you and Guido, too. And apparently I'm a semi-literate white nationalist. :|

does the word 'strawman' mean anything to you?

No strawman about it, buddy. You are making sweeping generalizations about the nature of Hispanics and their collective motivation within your country. It is perfectly valid to ask you if you've ever actually met one, especially since you insist on cloaking your rhetoric in the language of some imagined "invasion".

That's some invasion if you've managed to never actually meet one of the so-called "invaders".

A disproportionately high percentage of soldiers killed in Iraq are hispanic. I don't suppose that thumper, who is of mililtary age and sits around posting racist crap about hispanics not being loyal Americans, would have the balls to actually question a hispanic Marine's loyalty to his face. Of course not.

No strawman about it, buddy. You are making sweeping generalizations about the nature of Hispanics and their collective motivation within your country. It is perfectly valid to ask you if you've ever actually met one, especially since you insist on cloaking your rhetoric in the language of some imagined "invasion".

That's some invasion if you've managed to never actually meet one of the so-called "invaders".so in other words, if there was ONE HISPANIC that I could count on my hand who claimed to be pro-American, that would suddenly negate the reconquista movement and the La Raza rallies?:eek7:

so it's all or nothing?

http://www.cbsnews.com/images/2006/04/11/imageWX10604102342.jpg

http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2006/04/15/PH2006041501283.jpg
if we are to suddenly believe the mass media, congratulaions on believing their nifty PR campaign. what about the la raza rally?

so in other words, if there was ONE HISPANIC that I could count on my hand who claimed to be pro-American, that would suddenly negate the reconquista movement and the La Raza rallies?:eek7:

so it's all or nothing?
Dude.
can hispanics be loyal american citizens?
If you met one, than the answer would be a resounding yes.

By the way, I have hispanics in my family that are 10X more patriotic to america than most americans I've met. My cousin is in Iraq right now.

if we are to suddenly believe the mass media, congratulaions on believing their nifty PR campaign. what about the la raza rally?
Oh come on, you can not be serious. :rolleyes:

want some facts about what Hispanic Americans and Mexicans in particular think?

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"There is a racial aspect to this," said Glynn Custred, professor of anthropology at California State University, East Bay.

"They have no intention of assimilating," he said. "There's no secret about it. They tell you what they want to do. It's just amazing to me that the rest of the country hasn't caught on to it."

A 2002 Zogby poll of Mexicans in Mexico found that 58% believe the U.S. Southwest rightfully belongs to Mexico, having been stolen from Mexico in the 1800s.

Not surprisingly, 57% believe Mexicans have the right to enter the U.S. whenever they please.

"There's sort of an irredentist sentiment," said George Grayson, professor of government and Mexico specialist at the College of William and Mary.

"One seldom hears even educated Mexicans saying the laws on border crossing should be followed," he said. "It's almost as if the U.S. has an obligation to redress its sins of the nineteenth century."

http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=16&issue=20060410

Mexicans asked:

Are Americans racist? Yes 73%
Are Americans honest? No 84%
Are Americans hard working? No 74%

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1086

Did you fail to notice the sea of american flags in the rallys?

Don't be fooled. After being criticized and causing a backlash over the usage of Mexican flags and improper display of American flags, they got the word out to have their last stunt full of American flags. It was all for show. You're too smart to fall for that stunt.

Most mexican cats I've been friends with have been among the coolest, most laid-back people I've met. I had several good friends who were hispanic in the military (and of course when I lived in LA). A couple even had *gasp!* mexican flags in their car. But they still showed up every day, in uniform, and did their job as US service members. A lot of hard-workers too.

Personally, I had an Italian flag in my car. I guess I'm not up to Thumper's Standards of American Loyalty either.

if they are patriotic, they should make themselves known. i.e. mass protests.

I made this thread as a wake up call.

the hispanics need to wake up and realize they are being jerked around by the POWERS THAT BE WHICH FUNDS LA RAZA OUT OF CONGRESS.

at the same time, everyone else needs to call them on their bullshit instead of defering to their precious minority status, and pretending everything is okay.

Most mexican cats I've been friends with have been among the coolest, most laid-back people I've met. I had several good friends who were hispanic in the military (and of course when I lived in LA). A couple even had *gasp!* mexican flags in their car. But they still showed up every day, in uniform, and did their job as US service members. A lot of hard-workers too.

Personally, I had an Italian flag in my car. I guess I'm not up to Thumper's Standards of American Loyalty either.
zogby poll > your anecdotes

Mandrake, at that rate I'm assuming that if Italy was invading the US you would support that too?

Thumper, you asked if hispanics can be loyal american citizens. The answer is yes, they can.

Thumper, you asked if hispanics can be loyal american citizens. The answer is yes, they can.clearly it's not enough to matter.

Most legal American citizens don't rally for any cause, not only that they don't even bother to vote. A lot of legal citizens couldn't give two shits about their own country as long as they're fat, dumb and happy. Many of them actively and openly despise the US.

These immigrant-rights activists are acting like Americans in two important aspects: they are peacefully demonstrating to affect civil political change, and they are busting their ass doing hard work in order to create better lives for their families.

A lot of "native"-born American citizens could take a lesson.

:eek7:

example?


yes , there are a few who have not been fooled by this commy led invasion . They don't want a new mexico here . They want to be American . But they are getting fewer by the day because of the bigotry and hate of the majaority militant racist who fly their flags and burn ours threatening them .

And it was impossible for the commy[imo] media to get even one shot of American flag flyers, without the mex flag in background . Yet people with insane denial claim otherwise .


The only reason that they changed flag in mid stream is because it was beginng to be obvious to even the most liberal supporters to defend them as non militant anti-American invaders . So they started handing out US flags , and even then alot flew the flag of invasion in the face of the sheep who who call themselves judeo-christian citizens of America . All above is my opinion .

Their has to be the spirit of evil in the air that has took this nation from the greatist Godly nation to the most vile and perverted, diverted, inverted blind citizens on earth ,along with Europe and Israel .

Did you fail to notice the sea of american flags in the rallys?

They banned the protestors here from waving the scummy mexican flag in a public park. I'm not kidding. All you saw was U.S. flags.

No strawman about it, buddy. You are making sweeping generalizations about the nature of Hispanics and their collective motivation within your country. It is perfectly valid to ask you if you've ever actually met one, especially since you insist on cloaking your rhetoric in the language of some imagined "invasion".

That's some invasion if you've managed to never actually meet one of the so-called "invaders".


I met latinos and loved latinos who joined our nation . These new groups aren't the same . They have joined a invading army who claim this is Aztlan and who push their language and culture on this nation . Your in denial if you don't see this . They are being led by communist one worlders ,imo .

Just like the french and english defended Hitler until he took them over , the same thing is going on here . if you think that israel or any western nation will survive without the soviegn nation of America you must be dreaming .

Just like the french and english defended Hitler until he took them over ,

Hitler took us over?

Blimey, better rewrite the history books.:D

A disproportionately high percentage of soldiers killed in Iraq are hispanic. I don't suppose that thumper, who is of mililtary age and sits around posting racist crap about hispanics not being loyal Americans, would have the balls to actually question a hispanic Marine's loyalty to his face. Of course not.


This is a total false statement ! The biggest majority are white middle-class patriot Americans . And the black patriotic Americans are next . After 911 the latino, asian and that was already lowest recruits dropped . The majority of latinos went in to get green cards up until the war ! The enlistment fell drastically . [ Not taking away from the few latinos who joined to defend their nation ].


Charles Rangel of NY who along with H. Clinton used lies to re-instate the draft , saying military consisted of mostly poor [ meaning minority ,imo ]. Washington Times called them on this in an article dated, ' 11-8-05 . Showing that only 18% were in fact from low income before the war, then it dropped to 14% . The rest were from imcomes of $30,00 to $200,000 and 85% of new recruits . Hillery and Charles wouldn't comment when this report was presented to them . They left the lies out there for the ones with itchy ears to beleive .

Population wise only about 8% [if memory is right ] latinos and less than 2% asians, muslems and all others joined our military after war or 911 . This is why when you watch any channels of lib tv or cable , they always zoom in on the minorities . Check it out next time you see one .

Dude.

If you met one, than the answer would be a resounding yes.

By the way, I have hispanics in my family that are 10X more patriotic to america than most americans I've met. My cousin is in Iraq right now.


I agree some latinos are loyal true Americans , but most newer arrivals aren't . And i is good that you have lations in your family , because this means that the latinos who are not immediate will prove us right very soon if not already doing so . Hide and watch ! :nice:

Oh come on, you can not be serious. :rolleyes:

You have already stated your bias , " 10 times more patriotic than most Americans you met ." So you insult your ango-saxon heritage to honor your latino family heretage ?

You have already stated your bias , " 10 times more patriotic than most Americans you met ." So you insult your ango-saxon heritage to honor your latino family heretage ?
No, ma'am. I said it because it's true. My hispanic family members are so patriotic it's a little ridiculous, they ARE more patriotic than most Americans I've met. That's not me showing bias, it's not me insulting anything anglo-saxon, it's simply true.

This is a total false statement ! The biggest majority are white middle-class patriot Americans . And the black patriotic Americans are next . After 911 the latino, asian and that was already lowest recruits dropped . The majority of latinos went in to get green cards up until the war ! The enlistment fell drastically . [ Not taking away from the few latinos who joined to defend their nation ].


Charles Rangel of NY who along with H. Clinton used lies to re-instate the draft , saying military consisted of mostly poor [ meaning minority ,imo ]. Washington Times called them on this in an article dated, ' 11-8-05 . Showing that only 18% were in fact from low income before the war, then it dropped to 14% . The rest were from imcomes of $30,00 to $200,000 and 85% of new recruits . Hillery and Charles wouldn't comment when this report was presented to them . They left the lies out there for the ones with itchy ears to beleive .

Population wise only about 8% [if memory is right ] latinos and less than 2% asians, muslems and all others joined our military after war or 911 . This is why when you watch any channels of lib tv or cable , they always zoom in on the minorities . Check it out next time you see one .

11.1 percent of Iraq casualties are hispanic, higher than any other ethnic group.

http://icasualties.org/oif/ETHNICITY.aspx

In 2004, according to the Houston Chronical, The casualty rate for Hispanic Texans in Iraq has been out of proportion for their population or their enlistment rate.

That is also the case for Hispanics nationally, although it's not clear why.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/special/iraq/2898701.html

So, you're wrong again, not that that's a surprise.

Most mexican cats I've been friends with have been among the coolest, most laid-back people I've met. I had several good friends who were hispanic in the military (and of course when I lived in LA). A couple even had *gasp!* mexican flags in their car. But they still showed up every day, in uniform, and did their job as US service members. A lot of hard-workers too.

Personally, I had an Italian flag in my car. I guess I'm not up to Thumper's Standards of American Loyalty either.


Personally I think your ok, but politically i find you in denial .

Do you think that these people are stupid enough to show their 'true colors ' , ' pun intended ' when they are still the minority ?

This agenda has been going on for decades or longer !

And if you fly two flags n ne country it's because you have not learned national manners or loyalty . What place would our flag have flying in Italy ? Or vice versa ?

if we visit Canada or Mexico, we have to lower our flag and fly the nations flag in all waters of host nation . If we claim to be citizens we don't fly other flags inside our nation . You can be a citizen of only one nation at a time .
:nice:

Most legal American citizens don't rally for any cause, not only that they don't even bother to vote. A lot of legal citizens couldn't give two shits about their own country as long as they're fat, dumb and happy. Many of them actively and openly despise the US.

These immigrant-rights activists are acting like Americans in two important aspects: they are peacefully demonstrating to affect civil political change, and they are busting their ass doing hard work in order to create better lives for their families.

A lot of "native"-born American citizens could take a lesson.


I agree with this ! The truth is plain to see . But then you have to ask yourself, why when the few of us do speak out, you join the others in insuting our position and acting like a member of la Raza ,Mecha or other anti=American lobby ? I can see the frustration in your reply with the complacency of the sheep , but I don' understand how someone as intelegent as you are can act so foolish in this matter .

Hitler took us over?

Blimey, better rewrite the history books.:D

No you better read your own !:confused: Htler had invaded and was in total control of both ! America saved you from death camps or enslavement .:nice:

No, ma'am. I said it because it's true. My hispanic family members are so patriotic it's a little ridiculous, they ARE more patriotic than most Americans I've met. That's not me showing bias, it's not me insulting anything anglo-saxon, it's simply true.



Then I guess they are against this new invasion, unlike you seem to be . They want to keep America the way they found it . They are a vanishing rare breed of true latino Americans if this is so .

No you better read your own !:confused: Htler had invaded and was in total control of both ! America saved you from death camps or enslavement .:nice:
Um, no. Germany attacked britain in 1940, but lost the Battle of Brittain and never invaded or controlled the country.

Then I guess they are against this new invasion, unlike you seem to be.
I do not support continued illegal immigration and have never stated that I do.

No you better read your own !:confused: Htler had invaded and was in total control of both ! America saved you from death camps or enslavement .:nice:

I cant decide if you are trying to be very funny or very stupid .:confused:

11.1 percent of Iraq casualties are hispanic, higher than any other ethnic group.

http://icasualties.org/oif/ETHNICITY.aspx

In 2004, according to the Houston Chronical, The casualty rate for Hispanic Texans in Iraq has been out of proportion for their population or their enlistment rate.

That is also the case for Hispanics nationally, although it's not clear why.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/special/iraq/2898701.html

So, you're wrong again, not that that's a surprise.


I'm not wrong at all . You are . Most who are killed and maimed are whites . 73% killed , not counting injured . Alot of these latino were old recruits and who near end of term and joined for green cards or called back up from Reserves . If I can find this info again I'll post it .

I see you can' argue with the fact that after 911 the latino enlistments went down ? And this includes the ones who worked low wage job .

Same for other minoritys ,'other than blacks' they too are not interested in defending the naion who has given them so much . They are mostly here for the taking . This isn't a bias statement, but a fact ! We have a nation of non assimilating citizens who will be the end of us .

Um, no. Germany attacked britain in 1940, but lost the Battle of Brittain and never invaded or controlled the country.


Tell this to all the dead American soldiers burried at Normandy and other places there .

I'm not wrong at all . You are . Most who are killed and maimed are whites . 73% killed , not counting injured . Alot of these latino were old recruits and who near end of term and joined for green cards or called back up from Reserves . If I can find this info again I'll post it .

I see you can' argue with the fact that after 911 the latino enlistments went down ? And this includes the ones who worked low wage job .

Same for other minoritys ,'other than blacks' they too are not interested in defending the naion who has given them so much . They are mostly here for the taking . This isn't a bias statement, but a fact ! We have a nation of non assimilating citizens who will be the end of us .

You are welcome to your fantasy world, but don't confuse it with the real world, OK?

Numbers Shed Light On GI Deaths In Iraq; Victims Are Older And Often In Guard Or Reserves; Toll Is High Among Women And Hispanics

By James Janega, Darnell Little and Stephen Franklin, Tribune staff reporters. Tribune national correspondent Michael Kilian contributed to this report.

September 9, 2004
Copyright © 2004 Chicago Tribune. All rights reserved.

More women have died than in any other U.S. war. Hispanics' share of the dying is high: While they represent 9 percent of the military, they have made up 12 percent of the deaths.

"You have a disproportionate share of Hispanics who volunteer for gun-toting occupations in the Army and Marines, and that's where the casualties have been," said Roberto Suro, director of the Pew Hispanic Center in Washington.

...

In fact, Hispanics have been disproportionately represented on the casualty lists in Iraq compared to other racial or ethnic groups, said Brian Gifford, a researcher with the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation at the University of California at Berkeley.

"Hispanic casualties are higher than expected based on their service in the military and based on their participation in combat arms specialties," said Gifford, who is studying the racial and ethnic makeup of casualties in Iraq. "Hispanics make up about 12 percent of casualties so far, but they only make up about 9 percent of active-duty military."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A3696-2004Oct27?language=printer

Um, no. Germany attacked britain in 1940, but lost the Battle of Brittain and never invaded or controlled the country.


Tell this to all the dead American soldiers burried at Normandy and other places there . Who died on your beaches fighting german troops .

Tell this to all the dead American soldiers burried at Normandy and other places there . Who died on your beaches fighting german troops .

Normandy is in France, not England. Duh!

Tell this to all the dead American soldiers burried at Normandy and other places there .
Normandy is in France. You claimed that germany invaded and controlled england. This is just factually false.

:confused:

Why does anybody still bother to argue with Pappy&Me? She makes up reality as she goes along.

:confused:

Why does anybody still bother to argue with Pappy&Me? She makes up reality as she goes along.

I was going to explain the history of WWII (not to mention geography) to her, but instead I think I will teach my dog the finer points of quantum physics.

It'll be easier.

:confused:

Why does anybody still bother to argue with Pappy&Me? She makes up reality as she goes along.


No I don't ! Yall just can't handle the truth .:nonono: . And yall are the ones who said france, not me . If you don't know which country your in, than how do you exspect me to .:confused: And the brits were still in the war when we went in . And would have lost to hitler if not for us .:nice:

I was going to explain the history of WWII (not to mention geography) to her, but instead I think I will teach my dog the finer points of quantum physics.

It'll be easier.


LOL, thanks ! You must have some dog !:nice:

No I don't ! Yall just can't handle the truth .:nonono: . And yall are the ones who said france, not me . If you don't know which country your in, than how do you exspect me to .:confused: And the brits were still in the war when we went in . And would have lost to hitler if not for us .:nice:

You are forgetting it was the Brits who shot down the giant balloon the Germans were going to use to drop migrant workers into New York and thereby cause a communist overthrow.

Dont you know anything?

My dog is very clever, you must play him at chess sometime.

You are forgetting it was the Brits who shot down the giant balloon the Germans were going to use to drop migrant workers into New York and thereby cause a communist overthrow.

Dont you know anything?

My dog is very clever, you must play him at chess sometime.


I don't like chess, thats a game where intelletual idots sit for days and try to look important . Tell Spot I'll play him a game of Spades though ,if we can find partners .

I don't like chess, thats a game where intelletual idots sit for days and try to look important . Tell Spot I'll play him a game of Spades though ,if we can find partners .

Spades?

He likes digging:nice:

This is a sincere question? Someone actually asked if Hispanic Americans can be loyal American citizens? I couldn't even bring myself to actually vote on the question.

This is a sincere question? Someone actually asked if Hispanic Americans can be loyal American citizens? I couldn't even bring myself to actually vote on the question.

No, of course it isn't sincere. This thread merely provides a pretext for the poster to express his bigotry toward a minority, in this case, hispanic people. It might just as easily refer to blacks, muslims, homosexuals, etc. -- it doesn't matter, so long as it provides an occasion for the poster to express his bile, of which he has an endless supply, and expressing bile is much more important than discussing the world with other people.

The fact that the question itself is absurd -- meaning, it doesn't make contact with the real world -- indicates how thoroughly dishonest and insincere it really is.

No, of course it isn't sincere. This thread merely provides a pretext for the poster to express his bigotry toward a minority, in this case, hispanic people. It might just as easily refer to blacks, muslims, homosexuals, etc. -- it doesn't matter, so long as it provides an occasion for the poster to express his bile, of which he has an endless supply, and expressing bile is much more important than discussing the world with other people.

The fact that the question itself is absurd -- meaning, it doesn't make contact with the real world -- indicates how thoroughly dishonest and insincere it really is.


What is it thats so appealing to you people about , bile' and feces ? :eek7:

It's abturd what you think too .
:not:

What is it thats so appealing to you people about , bile' and feces ? :eek7:

It's abturd what you think too .
:not:

Bile has nothing to do with feces, although now that you've brought it up, the entire thread is (not surprisingly, considering its origin) a pile of crap.

A couple of points:

* just because there are some Hispanics serving in the US military does not mean all Hispanics are in any way loyal to the US as a country.
* There are many Mexicans that have stated, including the secretary of state for Mexico, who's name is Jorge Castaneda, that the Southwest land belongs to Mexico and was taken illegally by White settlers coming from New England.

That is factually true. The revolution of Texas was a fight between Whites and the Mexican government, and the Whites won and became the ruling class. The Hispanic Mexican population of Texas did not participate in the revolution and were then shut out of running anything. So what the Mexican people say is that a traitorous group of White Mexicans, allowed to live in Texas, conspired to take the land away.

There are other factors that nobody seems to ever care about:

* the Mexican government of the 1840s was just as f**ed up as it is today, but about 10 times worse. There were takeovers by one group every other month or so and when the revolution and Mexican American war happened, a dictator was running the country (Santa Anna) who overthrew the government and declared himself a dictator.
* the White Texans shared nothing in common with Hispanics, not too far from what it's like today. They wanted to join the rest of the United States, not be part of some third world country run by a dictator.

The circumstances surrounding why Texas and California and the rest of the land came into the United States possession is the whole argument Mexicans are making for why they don't have to pay the least attention to border laws. The people that "stole" the land were Whites. Therefore their laws don't matter. That's what Native American Indians say and why they keep filing lawsuits to get land back. There's no difference.

Yes, there's about a ton and a half of Mexican racism towards White people and anyone living on the border towns can see it immediately. I've lived on the border for a very long time and have heard lots of nasty comments directed at me. The universities are full of non stop discussion about this history. Being Anglo Saxon anywhere around the border is an extremely uncomfortable experience.

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A couple of points:

* just because there are some Hispanics serving in the US military does not mean all Hispanics are in any way loyal to the US as a country. -
No one said that. Thumper asked if Hispanics can be loyal Americans. The answer is yes.

* just because there are some Hispanics serving in the US military does not mean all Hispanics are in any way loyal to the US as a country.

The fake insincere question posed in the thread is "CAN hispanics be loyal American citizens?"

That means, "is it possible or conceivable that a hispanic person could be a loyal American citizen?"

The question implies that there is some reason to doubt whether this could be possible, which in turn suggests that there is something about being hispanic that precludes loyalty.

Obviously there isn't, as evidenced (for example) by the high number of hispanic people who enlist in the US military presumably to defend the country, and quite a few of them have been killed in the line of duty recently.

Because the question itself is ridiculous, it's fair to conclude that its significance is to provide the poster with an opportunity or pretext to satisfy his apparently relentless need to dump on some minority for reasons that are probably not even known to him.

No one said that. Thumper asked if Hispanics can be loyal Americans. The answer is yes.


Yes they can be , but it's gets harder when they are attacked by their own race for doing so . 30% of the latinos voted against medical care for illegals in Arizona, i think it was last year . But now it seems less are sticking with their nation . Ethinic pressure .:nice:

The fake insincere question posed in the thread is "CAN hispanics be loyal American citizens?"

That means, "is it possible or conceivable that a hispanic person could be a loyal American citizen?"

The question implies that there is some reason to doubt whether this could be possible, which in turn suggests that there is something about being hispanic that precludes loyalty.

Obviously there isn't, as evidenced (for example) by the high number of hispanic people who enlist in the US military presumably to defend the country, and quite a few of them have been killed in the line of duty recently.

Because the question itself is ridiculous, it's fair to conclude that its significance is to provide the poster with an opportunity or pretext to satisfy his apparently relentless need to dump on some minority for reasons that are probably not even known to him.


Look, ' victim ', you can't serve two countrys at once . And if they were so true to America, they would have thrown out the mexico flag waving American flag burning traitors from among them . two don't walk together who dissagee .

This thread is among the dumbest thumper has created lately, and that's quite an achievement considering that thumper's threads are renowned for their lack of insight.

We have resorted to grading thumper's threads on-the-curve :hmm:

Look, ' victim ', you can't serve two countrys at once . And if they were so true to America, they would have thrown out the mexico flag waving American flag burning traitors from among them . two don't walk together who dissagee .

Actually, you're the victim here insofar as your posts are continually demolished almost as soon as they appear.

Actually, you're the victim here insofar as your posts are continually demolished almost as soon as they appear.

Self-Destructing would be more accurate ... one of the many amusments here :)

Actually, you're the victim here insofar as your posts are continually demolished almost as soon as they appear.


You saying your little pact has a conspiricy against me ? Thats old news .