It was God's Will-no Empire lasts forever.Such a pity.Too bad for those who have nothing but the color of their skin to be proud of.

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Wtf??

Thx for the quick response,guys-but it won't help.White supremacy went the day of the dinosaur...

I may have missed the point of your post fat mike.

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A member brought up the question that God was responsible for putting the stewardship of the world in the white man's hands-I agree the White Man at one time indeed did rule the world-but it was equally God's judgement to take the authority away-we should honour that instead of questioning it.
Questioning God's judgement is heresy.People that claim to be Christians shouldnt do it.

what the **** is the point of this topic again?

A member brought up the question that God was responsible for putting the stewardship of the world in the white man's hands-I agree the White Man at one time indeed did rule the world-but it was equally God's judgement to take the authority away-we should honour that instead of questioning it.
Questioning God's judgement is heresy.People that claim to be Christians shouldnt do it.
Excellent points, fat mike!

wait, you were serious?

sure.

I have never read that God gave white people power of the world.You see all races has had a run at it. The egyptians,aztecs,etc.God has the power and rules the world, he puts in charge who he puts there

White people are awesome! :nice:

I have never read that God gave white people power of the world.You see all races has had a run at it. The egyptians,aztecs,etc.God has the power and rules the world, he puts in charge who he puts there

Genesis 9:26-28 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)

Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society



26 He also said,
"Blessed be the LORD, the God of Shem!
May Canaan be the slave of Shem. [a]

27 May God extend the territory of Japheth [b] ;
may Japheth live in the tents of Shem,
and may Canaan be his [c] slave."

Japheth is the father of the white skinned people.Shem ;the Jews and Arabs..
Promotion comes from God,you're right-The whites have controlled an empire for a long time...

I have never read that God gave white people power of the world.You see all races has had a run at it. The egyptians,aztecs,etc.God has the power and rules the world, he puts in charge who he puts there

If you believe in God that is? I believe in him - sometimes, like when I need help or am in danger, but not when he takes the lives of the innocent 'in the name of God'

I also did not recall any man 'white,brown,black,yellow...etc..being alive when the dinosaurs roamed in the Jurassic era? when they were extinct 65 million years earlier than man?

Thx for the quick response,guys-but it won't help.White supremacy went the day of the dinosaur...

Did someone steal your log in dude? :confused:

I may have missed the point of your post fat mike.

I got it. Islam once ruled from the Spanish border to the Horn of Africa. The Ottomans once controlled the most territory and riches. A few thousand years before Christ, the Egyptians were the best game in town. There once was a time when the sun never set on the British Empire.

There is a continual ebb and flow of world domination, and when the Western European, (White), control of the power and riches and resources has gone the way of the dodo, those among us who take their pride and self-worth from nothing more than the color of their skin are going to be sorely disappointed.

Did someone steal your log in dude? :confused:

You know I just got this-this isnt a racist thread-like Bear says-it's only fact that the white people a short time ago controlled the whole world.Everything was Europe,America or a protectorate of one or the other-after wwii the "Empires" were diluted-non white nationalist movements came to the fore,non whites in the various countries started demonstrating fro equal rights and got them-Oil was a part of this but it wasnt the whole thing-a big part was simply that the whites didnt stick together-I dont think this is something to mourn-I dont need an advantage like skin color,UI have other abilities-but stupid people who dont want to learn or develop whine about the olden days-if there are unfair advantages given to different people now,who cares? If youhave something real to contribute to society you won't be left out-if all you can manage is wearing the right suit and speaking the right dialect of English-to heck with you...

Blessed be the LORD, the God of Shem!
May Canaan be the slave of Shem.You can take this two ways, Canaan the lowest slaves to his brothers,not ancestors. But if you look at it as a forever curse to Cannan, then you would be right. But I dont think God would curse a race he created. After all their are some rich and powerful dark skinned folks. Who controls the oil??? Noah wasnt white, he was Jewish

whites didnt stick together You almost forgot, who we are.First off,this is what I have learned, When Black people get mad, they riot,and protest.When Illegals get mad, they protest,wave flags,spit on the ground.When whites get mad,we organize,set up camp, and we stick together when it comes to war and battle,that is why we have stayed in power. the key word is organize, oh and a the secret, we white folks only know about

You can take this two ways, Canaan the lowest slaves to his brothers,not ancestors. But if you look at it as a forever curse to Cannan, then you would be right. But I dont think God would curse a race he created. After all their are some rich and powerful dark skinned folks. Who controls the oil??? Noah wasnt white, he was Jewish

Noah wasnt Jewish-he was father to all current races.Noah,not God,cursed Canaan-but there is a certain relevance.Recent history showed Europe and her races in control of the oil and everything else,only in the last century did that start to change...

I guess that is why its called BP

I don't think that "God" gives or takes away the power. I do think that "God" really don't take care who is ruling this world. :eek3:

Why on earth do people think God is disinterested? Is He supposed to be at your beck and call? Can you really say you don't see any order down here?
If He were as cruel as you guys seem to think we'd be in flames already.

It was God's Will-no Empire lasts forever.Such a pity.Too bad for those who have nothing but the color of their skin to be proud of.

It is not about divine right. Your god does not exist. Power belongs to those with the strength and the will to seize it. A people without pride in themselves as a group will never possess more then the will to be dominated, and the strength of an individual. The individual is transient, blood is forever; only the blood of the strong of course, the meek are destined to be swept aside. It's not good, it's not bad, it's just nature.

Japheth is the father of the white skinned people.Shem ;the Jews and Arabs..
Promotion comes from God,you're right-The whites have controlled an empire for a long time...


you're using a book that was written by white men two thousand years ago to support a case that at one time it was God's will that white men rule the world :not:


if God EVER wanted whites to rule the world, then why did he bother making other colors of people? did God hate the brown people?

Shelby Steele has an interesting piece on Opinion Journal today. I think it does a very good job in analyzing White Guilt and its present day implications.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110008318

There is something rather odd in the way America has come to fight its wars since World War II.

For one thing, it is now unimaginable that we would use anything approaching the full measure of our military power (the nuclear option aside) in the wars we fight. And this seems only reasonable given the relative weakness of our Third World enemies in Vietnam and in the Middle East. But the fact is that we lost in Vietnam, and today, despite our vast power, we are only slogging along--if admirably--in Iraq against a hit-and-run insurgency that cannot stop us even as we seem unable to stop it. Yet no one--including, very likely, the insurgents themselves--believes that America lacks the raw power to defeat this insurgency if it wants to. So clearly it is America that determines the scale of this war. It is America, in fact, that fights so as to make a little room for an insurgency.

Certainly since Vietnam, America has increasingly practiced a policy of minimalism and restraint in war. And now this unacknowledged policy, which always makes a space for the enemy, has us in another long and rather passionless war against a weak enemy.

Why this new minimalism in war?

It began, I believe, in a late-20th-century event that transformed the world more profoundly than the collapse of communism: the world-wide collapse of white supremacy as a source of moral authority, political legitimacy and even sovereignty. This idea had organized the entire world, divided up its resources, imposed the nation-state system across the globe, and delivered the majority of the world's population into servitude and oppression. After World War II, revolutions across the globe, from India to Algeria and from Indonesia to the American civil rights revolution, defeated the authority inherent in white supremacy, if not the idea itself. And this defeat exacted a price: the West was left stigmatized by its sins. Today, the white West--like Germany after the Nazi defeat--lives in a kind of secular penitence in which the slightest echo of past sins brings down withering condemnation. There is now a cloud over white skin where there once was unquestioned authority.

I call this white guilt not because it is a guilt of conscience but because people stigmatized with moral crimes--here racism and imperialism--lack moral authority and so act guiltily whether they feel guilt or not....

yeah, Shelby Steele is really on to something. We really should treat all non-whites as non-persons. Surely we could defeat the Iraqi insurgency if we just stopped trying to avoid killing innocent non-whites. :rolleyes:

That wooshing sound you hear is the point of the article flying over your head.

Fat Mike,

You've chosen to overlook what funded Western White people's accomplishments.

When you analyze what you mean by "rule" the world, you notice something - Western civilization like the Roman Empire and the British one - ruled using military force and authoritarianism.

What made Europe and America rich was exploitation of non Whites. The food was grown and picked by slaves. The buildings in Europe had to be financed by something. Where did all those small countries get the money to build 500 room castles? Have you ever seen a picture of Versailles? Where did they get all that material?

Maybe that's been lost on some people. Westerners did NOT get Indians to speak English by "persuading" them to do it. They forced them. Maybe you don't have a problem with this, but Indians sure do. People look on imperialism with contempt. They did then and they do now. Where do you think Gandhi came from?

Did you ever notice that anywhere Westerners needed material from...the military magically showed up? Why was the military always around? Iraq? India? China? Mexico? Brazil?

No, that does NOT mean I'm saying there's nothing achieved by the West. There's a tremendous amount. But "ruled" the world is something I'd avoid talking about.



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It is a race , a race to the finish. All races have killed. We rule, because of blessing, and we are bad to the bone

Fat Mike,

When you analyze what you mean by "rule" the world, you notice something - Western civilization like the Roman Empire and the British one - ruled using military force and authoritarianism.

Maybe that's been lost on some people. Westerners did NOT get Indians to speak English by "persuading" them to do it. They forced them. Maybe you don't have a problem with this, but Indians sure do.


-The Idians had bow and arrows, the Pilgrims had guns. The one with the most weapons wins.

That wooshing sound you hear is the point of the article flying over your head.

well then please explain it to me.

well then please explain it to me.


Quite simple:

White guilt over the past (selectively: the negative aspects of White Imperialism without acknowledging the benefits of Western Culture) is hampering America from looking out for our best interests. We operating in a defensive, guilty mode - minimizing our use of force in military engagements. The sad irony is that this minimization just exacerbates the enemey by enabling them to prolong their attacks on us and others.

Quite simple:

White guilt over the past (selectively the negative aspects of White Imperialism without acknowledging the benefits of Western Culture) is hampering America from looking out for our best interests. We operating in a defensive, guilty mode - minimizing our use of force in military engagements. The sad irony is that this minimization just exacerbates the enemey by enabling them to prolong their attacks on us and others.
I agree, let's put the guilt behind us. I am moving on with life. If people wan't to wake up in the morning, and spend the day blaming whitey, then that's okay with me. I wake up, trying to make it to the next day. I don't even listen to all the cry baby stuff anymore, I know we are Bad>>>

The one with the most weapons wins.

Be sure and tell more advanced civilizations that you're fine with them taking your land and property because they have more weapons. I'm sure they'll be glad to hear it.

White guilt over the past (selectively the negative aspects of White Imperialism without acknowledging the benefits of Western Culture) is hampering America from looking out for our best interests.

And White Westerners ignoring their ancestors serious mistakes leads to more mistakes. What's your point?


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And White Westerners ignoring their ancestors serious mistakes leads to more mistakes. What's your point?



We aren't ignoring their mistakes - we are obsessing over them to the point at which we denigrate the good aspects of Western Culture. The past was not 100% bad. It is just as wrong to deny the positive as it is to refuse to learn from the negative.

The past was not 100% bad.

There are very few people that say everything Western is bad. Have you ever heard anyone say that out loud? Me neither.

That's not what they're saying. If you think Americans have learned the lesson then why is the army, ONCE AGAIN, near a material that the nation is "desperate" for? They're always "desperate" for material. Desperate for gold of Mexicans. Desperate for spice from India. Desperate from this from China desperate for that from Brazil. The rich people in Western countries in Europe were always desperate.

And magically, there's the army. How convenient, right? Oh wow, isn't that oil over there in the Mid East? And wow, there's the army. What a coincidence. Whatever happened to those weapons of mass destruction, anyway?

So maybe you have learned a lesson. But what about everybody else?

Your posts are pretty decent proof that Steele is correct in his assessment. You've accepted that The West is Evil to the extent that you do not even question why.

You've accepted that The West is Evil to the extent that you do not even question why.

Did you miss the part of my posts where I, repeatedly, say Westerners have contributed a great deal to world culture? I said that repeatedly. Now who's prejudiced?

You've just missed the point that NO, Westerners have not learned anything from their past. You keep quoting people with what helps your argument, never mind nobody said it.

I think I'll make a thread about any evidence that Western powers have learned from the very serious mistakes of imperialism. You're welcome to provide your evidence they have. I doubt you'll have any.

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The fact that you automatically reject any reason for the use of the military as being valid demonstrates your true prejudice.

Boe, you're just like any other man, only....

more so.

It seems I'm always ringside at the first fight...and the last.

Maybe you swim with the small fish?

You and every other man I've ever met.

The fact that you automatically reject any reason for the use of the military as being valid demonstrates your true prejudice.

When did I say using a military is always wrong?


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Here, for one.


And magically, there's the army. How convenient, right? Oh wow, isn't that oil over there in the Mid East? And wow, there's the army. What a coincidence. Whatever happened to those weapons of mass destruction, anyway?

So you don't see a connection with Western countries wanting resources and their military shows up? It's only been happening for hundreds of years.


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Be sure and tell more advanced civilizations that you're fine with them taking your land and property because they have more weapons. I'm sure they'll be glad to hear it.

It is not for the weak to tell the strong anything. The fact remains that "whites" will lose "their" land. They will be dispossessed. They have through guilt, hedonism, and spiritual poverty, proven themselves unfit in an evolutionary sense. They are like the neanderthal, destined to be replaced by a more prolific biological competitor.

And White Westerners ignoring their ancestors serious mistakes leads to more mistakes. What's your point?

The biggest mistakes the "white westerners" made was forgetting that they are not above nature. This has lead to the birth of all kinds of erroneous ideologies, including those which form the basis of your belief system. These include the very ideals you now use to criticize them. It is funny that the ideals you claim "the white westerner" has failed to learn would not even exist were it not for "the white westerner".

For JayGW:

Do you get that there is a benefit to that as well as the negative interpretation you are making?

It is not for the weak to tell the strong anything. The fact remains that "whites" will lose "their" land. They will be dispossessed. They have through guilt, hedonism, and spiritual poverty, proven themselves unfit in an evolutionary sense. They are like the neanderthal, destined to be replaced by a more prolific biological competitor.



Nope, we'll nuke all of you first.

spiritual poverty

What is "spiritual poverty"?

Do you get that there is a benefit to that as well as the negative interpretation you are making?

I see the benefit that is immediate for the person using the military to get resources. What you don't understand is in the long run that will backfire.


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A member brought up the question that God was responsible for putting the stewardship of the world in the white man's hands-I agree the White Man at one time indeed did rule the world-but it was equally God's judgement to take the authority away-we should honour that instead of questioning it.
Questioning God's judgement is heresy.People that claim to be Christians shouldnt do it.

Good point. IF God ordained the ascension he must now be giving all those "darkies" an opportunity now.



"darkies" was used sarcastically. If it offends you then put the business end of a shotgun in your mouth loaded with buckshot and pull pulll pulll that trigger.

If you are just a self-flagelator use rock salt instead. haah

whites didnt stick together
so blacks do? what about the civil wars in almost any african country?