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Alberto Balsalm 04-14-2006, 11:55 AM "I'm glad there was pain, and I wish there will be more pain," Moussaoui said. "The children in Palestine and in Chechnya will have pain. I want you to share their pain."
So, Spencer asked: "You have no regret, no remorse?"
When he left court after the judge and jury, he yelled: "God curse America. We will win. It's just a question of time."
Moussaoui didn't captivate the jury as he had March 27 when he first admitted a role in 9/11. This time jurors did not keep their eyes on him throughout; some even chuckled when he momentarily forgot to use his standard hardline al-Qaida rhetoric and quickly corrected himself.
In a lengthy explanation of why he hates Americans, Moussaoui said Islam requires Muslims to be the world's superpower as he flipped through a copy of the Quran searching for verses to support his assertion. He said one verse requires Muslims "to fight against all who believe not in Allah."
"We have an obligation to be the superpower. You have to be subdued," Moussaoui said. "America is a superpower and you want to eradicate Islam."
He criticized U.S. support for Israel. "Every child who has been killed in Palestine has been killed because of you," he said. Israel is "just a missing star in the American flag," he added.
http://apnews.myway.com//article/20060413/D8GVE6A00.html
Testimony two days ago by Army Lt. Col. John Thurman about his narrow escape from the burning Pentagon building was ``pathetic,'' Moussaoui said. ``I was regretful that he didn't die.'' He also agreed with Spencer's question about whether it was a high calling to participate in the Sept. 11 attacks.
``You'd do it again tomorrow, wouldn't you?''
``Yes, today,'' Moussaoui said. He was in jail on Sept. 11 on immigration charges, though prosecutors say his lies to authorities following his arrest kept them from thwarting the attacks.
Moussaoui's lawyer, Gerald Zerkin, asked his client why ``you hate America and Americans?''
`Otherwise, Jihad'
Moussaoui said the Koran instructs Muslims to fight against those who don't acknowledge Islam. ``So from the Islamic point of view, we have to be the superpower. We have to be above you.''
Islam's goal is to force the U.S. and other non-Islamic countries to ``pay tribute'' to avoid being invaded by Muslims, he said. ``Otherwise, we invade you. Otherwise, jihad.''
He said he objected that the United States has ``by law guaranteed the security of the Jewish state'' of Israel.
Moussaoui accused his lawyers of ``criminal non- assistance,'' saying they blocked his efforts to hire a Muslim attorney and to try to have the trial moved to a court further away from the Pentagon, which is several miles away from the courthouse in Alexandria.
``I thought you had not my best interests at heart,'' Moussaoui told Zerkin. ``First of all, you are American. Second, you are Jewish. You are playing games with me.''
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=a_z8x6y01G.U&refer=top_world_news
86Dude 04-14-2006, 01:22 PM Just put this guy in a southern prison.
hadit 04-14-2006, 01:31 PM Just put this guy in a southern prison.
Or he could become a martyr and live with those 72 Virginians for eternity.
86Dude 04-14-2006, 01:37 PM Screw that. I'd like to kill him myself, but I want to hear that this guy gets ass raped and shanked by some black ape named bubba who has the HIV.
Warbrie 04-14-2006, 03:04 PM Just send him to my garage. I'll make Abu Ghraib look like a full accomodations package at Club Med.
kathaksung 04-16-2006, 05:18 PM Moussaoui hoax
911 is a hoax. Many people have realized it was a government inside work. The trial of Moussaoui is only a show. To convince the others 911 attack was done by Al Qaida.
Moussaoui plays the same role as Padilla. Padilla is an informant and was arrested for "dirty bomb" case. He was used to prove that Saddam had planned to attack US.
Intelligence used to eliminate anyone who could reveal the truth. In 911 attack, all 19 hijackers died in crash. In London bombing, all four "suicide bombers" were blew to pieces. In Madrid bombing, the "bombers" all died in a police raid. Thus nobody knew the truth ever. But they also want people believe the attack was done by Al Qaida not others. So there are prepared witness: Padilla and Moussaoui. The men worked for intelligence.
Moussaoui was arrested one month earlier before 911 attack. It was said there was plan in his computer but FBI didn't search his computer. FBI said they were afraid to touch the wall of domestic criminal law. It's ridiculous. Moussaoui is a foreigner. He fits for FISA, even a nonprofessional knows. FBI is notorious for abusing their power, do you believe they won't search a detaineer's computer?
But Moussaoui was designated for being a witness of 911. That's why he was arrested, with obvious evidence to be a witness. But at the same time FBI said they didn't search the evidence. Because otherwise the 911 attack couldn't go true. And D.O.J. couldn't get the Patriout Act, and the Inside group couldn't have the war in Mid-east.
There was another big flaw there. One principle for the secret work, either for a spy, an intelligence job, or for a terrorist, is that if one of them was arrested, the plan would be cancelled immediately and the team would withdraw. Because it was assumed the plan has been revealed. How could the other hijakers behaved like nothing happened. They going on a normal life until 911, with one of them arrested for weeks. Or do they know FBI won't search their fellow's computer?
Another big joke was when the hijacker going for a top secret job, would they bring a plan with them? It could be used only for evidence. So much for Moussaoui's case.
hadit 04-17-2006, 12:27 PM Moussaoui hoax
911 is a hoax. Many people have realized it was a government inside work. The trial of Moussaoui is only a show. To convince the others 911 attack was done by Al Qaida.
Moussaoui plays the same role as Padilla. Padilla is an informant and was arrested for "dirty bomb" case. He was used to prove that Saddam had planned to attack US.
Intelligence used to eliminate anyone who could reveal the truth. In 911 attack, all 19 hijackers died in crash. In London bombing, all four "suicide bombers" were blew to pieces. In Madrid bombing, the "bombers" all died in a police raid. Thus nobody knew the truth ever. But they also want people believe the attack was done by Al Qaida not others. So there are prepared witness: Padilla and Moussaoui. The men worked for intelligence.
Moussaoui was arrested one month earlier before 911 attack. It was said there was plan in his computer but FBI didn't search his computer. FBI said they were afraid to touch the wall of domestic criminal law. It's ridiculous. Moussaoui is a foreigner. He fits for FISA, even a nonprofessional knows. FBI is notorious for abusing their power, do you believe they won't search a detaineer's computer?
But Moussaoui was designated for being a witness of 911. That's why he was arrested, with obvious evidence to be a witness. But at the same time FBI said they didn't search the evidence. Because otherwise the 911 attack couldn't go true. And D.O.J. couldn't get the Patriout Act, and the Inside group couldn't have the war in Mid-east.
There was another big flaw there. One principle for the secret work, either for a spy, an intelligence job, or for a terrorist, is that if one of them was arrested, the plan would be cancelled immediately and the team would withdraw. Because it was assumed the plan has been revealed. How could the other hijakers behaved like nothing happened. They going on a normal life until 911, with one of them arrested for weeks. Or do they know FBI won't search their fellow's computer?
Another big joke was when the hijacker going for a top secret job, would they bring a plan with them? It could be used only for evidence. So much for Moussaoui's case.
That's not what Moussaoui thinks.
kathaksung 04-26-2006, 03:23 PM Another flaw of Moussaoui case is that he probably never had the experience to fly a plane, let alone a Boeing.
He was said to attending a flying school intending to learn to pilot a Boeing plane. Think with your brain, what kind of qualification for a pilot of Boeing? The students should have basic flying knowledgement. They should have experience to fly other low ranking air planes. (Maybe hundreds of hours)Even such people who past the Boeing training course, they would practise as assistant for hundreds hours before they can handle a real Boeing. Flying a Boeing just like to study in a college, you have to have the experience of Primary and high school.
Will the flight school take whomever who want to learn flying a Boeing? Do these school train Boeing pilot without any qualification? Do you think the pilots of airline were trained by such kind of flying school?
Of course, if you think in a normal way, then the Moussaoui case and 911 event became a hoax. That's why they focused on 911 victims. Let the jury hear Flight 93 recording, let former N.Y. Mayor Guiliani to testify, show you the tape of WTC collapsing ..... all purposed to flame an emotional hatred, none can prove Moussaoui a member of 911 perpetrators.
The case is so fragile, (they avoid to talk about it). They prosecute one who have no experience to fly a Boeing plane to hit the White House by a Boeing plane. That makes US court a big joke. When they want a war, they said there was WMD. When they want a scapegoat for 911, they gave you a psycho who had no experience to fly Boeing. Yet so many people believe it.
Is it a chaotic show?
hadit 04-26-2006, 03:55 PM Another flaw of Moussaoui case is that he probably never had the experience to fly a plane, let alone a Boeing.
He was said to attending a flying school intending to learn to pilot a Boeing plane. Think with your brain, what kind of qualification for a pilot of Boeing? The students should have basic flying knowledgement. They should have experience to fly other low ranking air planes. (Maybe hundreds of hours)Even such people who past the Boeing training course, they would practise as assistant for hundreds hours before they can handle a real Boeing. Flying a Boeing just like to study in a college, you have to have the experience of Primary and high school.
Will the flight school take whomever who want to learn flying a Boeing? Do these school train Boeing pilot without any qualification? Do you think the pilots of airline were trained by such kind of flying school?
Of course, if you think in a normal way, then the Moussaoui case and 911 event became a hoax. That's why they focused on 911 victims. Let the jury hear Flight 93 recording, let former N.Y. Mayor Guiliani to testify, show you the tape of WTC collapsing ..... all purposed to flame an emotional hatred, none can prove Moussaoui a member of 911 perpetrators.
The case is so fragile, (they avoid to talk about it). They prosecute one who have no experience to fly a Boeing plane to hit the White House by a Boeing plane. That makes US court a big joke. When they want a war, they said there was WMD. When they want a scapegoat for 911, they gave you a psycho who had no experience to fly Boeing. Yet so many people believe it.
Is it a chaotic show?
So why does he think he's a part of it if he's completely innocent?
kathaksung 05-06-2006, 05:29 PM So why does he think he's a part of it if he's completely innocent?
Go to a mental hospital, you can find many people doing sameway, will ask them the same question?
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Moussaoui hoax (4)
FBI awards man who blocked MN investigation
Quote, " FBI performs a nasty little sequel to whistle-blower saga
Doug Grow Star Tribune Published Dec. 22, 2002
The Star Tribune's Greg Gordon reported last week that at a quiet little ceremony earlier this month, Marion (Spike) Bowman was one of nine people in the bureau to receive an award for "exceptional performance." The award carries with it a cash bonus of 20 to 35 percent of the recipient's salary and a framed certificate signed by the president.
What does this have to do with Rowley?
Bowman heads the FBI's National Security Law Unit. That's the unit that blocked Minneapolis agents from pursuing their suspicions about Moussaoui.
There were no FBI honors for the Minneapolis office. There was a big honor for the lead antagonist of the Minneapolis office."
http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/3547688.html
When the low ranking FBI agent warned his supervisors more than 70 times that Moussaoui was a terrorist and might hijack a plane, he got no reward for his good work.
But the high ranking officer got a reward after that. What achievement has he got that could overcome the big mistake (or more accurately, a criminal neglegence) that he had blocked the important discovery his staff has made?
That's why I say Moussaoui was a prepared witness by inside group. Low ranking FBI agent did their job to report it. The high ranking officials knew what was it. It was too early to declair Moussaoui was a potential hijacker. They must block it otherwise there would be no 911, and the war the inside group wanted couldn't go true. Those who blocked the revelation got a reward.
jwreck 05-06-2006, 05:49 PM he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about. islam is the religion of peace. :|
GanjaFreebird 05-06-2006, 06:25 PM he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about. islam is the religion of peace.
I hope that somebody will "peacefully" ass rape this believer of the "religion of peace" and and treat him as "peaceful" as his other friends from the "religion of peace" did to Americans on 9/11.
Oh, and make sure to take a picture and show it to the other "peaceful" members of the "religion of peace";) :p .
jwreck 05-06-2006, 06:50 PM I hope that somebody will "peacefully" ass rape this believer of the "religion of peace" and and treat him as "peaceful" as his other friends from the "religion of peace" did to Americans on 9/11.
Oh, and make sure to take a picture and show it to the other "peaceful" members of the "religion of peace";) :p .
with a piece of pork sausage. :cool:
I don't know 05-07-2006, 03:33 AM He's crazy, allright :p I think I heard he was scitzophrenic
Another flaw of Moussaoui case is that he probably never had the experience to fly a plane, let alone a Boeing.
He was said to attending a flying school intending to learn to pilot a Boeing plane. Think with your brain, what kind of qualification for a pilot of Boeing? The students should have basic flying knowledgement. They should have experience to fly other low ranking air planes. (Maybe hundreds of hours)Even such people who past the Boeing training course, they would practise as assistant for hundreds hours before they can handle a real Boeing. Flying a Boeing just like to study in a college, you have to have the experience of Primary and high school.
Will the flight school take whomever who want to learn flying a Boeing? Do these school train Boeing pilot without any qualification? Do you think the pilots of airline were trained by such kind of flying school?
Of course, if you think in a normal way, then the Moussaoui case and 911 event became a hoax. That's why they focused on 911 victims. Let the jury hear Flight 93 recording, let former N.Y. Mayor Guiliani to testify, show you the tape of WTC collapsing ..... all purposed to flame an emotional hatred, none can prove Moussaoui a member of 911 perpetrators.
The case is so fragile, (they avoid to talk about it). They prosecute one who have no experience to fly a Boeing plane to hit the White House by a Boeing plane. That makes US court a big joke. When they want a war, they said there was WMD. When they want a scapegoat for 911, they gave you a psycho who had no experience to fly Boeing. Yet so many people believe it.
Is it a chaotic show?
- Methinks the difficult part of flying a plane is takeoff and landing. The terrorists on 9/11 didn't need to know either.
Von Apfelstrudel 05-09-2006, 08:03 AM He's crazy, allright :p I think I heard he was schizophrenic i heard it too...
- Methinks the difficult part of flying a plane is takeoff and landing. The terrorists on 9/11 didn't need to know either.
judging from my time playing IL2 Sturmovik, I would tend to agree with that statement...
kathaksung 05-16-2006, 06:14 PM He's crazy, allright :p I think I heard he was scitzophrenic
- Methinks the difficult part of flying a plane is takeoff and landing. The terrorists on 9/11 didn't need to know either.
Hani Hanjour, a hijacker in 911 recognized by FBI as the pilot, was not able to control a Cessna. Moussaoui was much worse, how could he be accused in a case for piloting a Boeing?
Quote, "Hani Hanjour:
9/11 Pilot Extraordinaire
From the ridiculous to the sublime...
At Freeway Airport in Bowie, Md., 20 miles west of Washington, flight instructor Sheri Baxter instantly recognized the name of alleged hijacker Hani Hanjour when the FBI released a list of 19 suspects in the four hijackings. Hanjour, the only suspect on Flight 77 the FBI listed as a pilot, had come to the airport one month earlier seeking to rent a small plane.
However, when Baxter and fellow instructor Ben Conner took the slender, soft-spoken Hanjour on three test runs during the second week of August, they found he had trouble controlling and landing the single-engine Cessna 172. Even though Hanjour showed a federal pilot's license and a log book cataloging 600 hours of flying experience, chief flight instructor Marcel Bernard declined to rent him a plane without more lessons.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hanjour.html
Staff members characterized Mr. Hanjour as polite, meek and very quiet. But most of all, the former employee said, they considered him a very bad pilot. "I'm still to this day amazed that he could have flown into the Pentagon," the former employee said. "He could not fly at all."
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20A11FD35550C778CDDAC0894DA4044 82
"me" will think those Flght instructor were idiot. Even though the "hijacker" was not able to control a single engin Cessna, to pilot a Boeing was not a proplem. The innocent the better. Because government want you think so.
hadit 05-17-2006, 12:21 PM Hani Hanjour, a hijacker in 911 recognized by FBI as the pilot, was not able to control a Cessna. Moussaoui was much worse, how could he be accused in a case for piloting a Boeing?
Quote, "Hani Hanjour:
9/11 Pilot Extraordinaire
From the ridiculous to the sublime...
At Freeway Airport in Bowie, Md., 20 miles west of Washington, flight instructor Sheri Baxter instantly recognized the name of alleged hijacker Hani Hanjour when the FBI released a list of 19 suspects in the four hijackings. Hanjour, the only suspect on Flight 77 the FBI listed as a pilot, had come to the airport one month earlier seeking to rent a small plane.
However, when Baxter and fellow instructor Ben Conner took the slender, soft-spoken Hanjour on three test runs during the second week of August, they found he had trouble controlling and landing the single-engine Cessna 172. Even though Hanjour showed a federal pilot's license and a log book cataloging 600 hours of flying experience, chief flight instructor Marcel Bernard declined to rent him a plane without more lessons.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hanjour.html
Staff members characterized Mr. Hanjour as polite, meek and very quiet. But most of all, the former employee said, they considered him a very bad pilot. "I'm still to this day amazed that he could have flown into the Pentagon," the former employee said. "He could not fly at all."
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20A11FD35550C778CDDAC0894DA4044 82
"me" will think those Flght instructor were idiot. Even though the "hijacker" was not able to control a single engin Cessna, to pilot a Boeing was not a proplem. The innocent the better. Because government want you think so.
Modern airliners are much easier to control than are single engine Cessnas, given all the automated controls. He simply needed to enter the heading, altitude, and airspeed into the autopilot and let the plane fly itself to Washington. Once there, he just needed to aim it at the ground.
I don't know 05-18-2006, 04:26 PM i heard it too...
judging from my time playing IL2 Sturmovik, I would tend to agree with that statement...- Okay, I think I'll have to correct myself and say "takeoff, landing and dogfighting" - my point still stands, though :l
Pappy&Me 05-18-2006, 04:37 PM A pilot colonel visiting the site after 911 said, the pilot that hit the pentagon did some job jumping down from that building and bounching off the ground to hit it's target in that huge plane . :confused:
I guess anythings possible though . :cool:
PS. Also we would have to as what happenned to that plane and all it's passengers if we thought a missel hit intead of plane . Maybe they went to Atlantis ? Or entered the black hole .
kathaksung 05-26-2006, 05:39 PM Modern airliners are much easier to control than are single engine Cessnas, given all the automated controls. He simply needed to enter the heading, altitude, and airspeed into the autopilot and let the plane fly itself to Washington. Once there, he just needed to aim it at the ground.
Ha Ha, you may prove one thing: that the plane was remote controlled.
Quote, "AJ: Stanley Hilton will be with us for another 15 or 16 minutes. Then he's got to go into court. Bob Dole's former chief of staff, political scientist, lawyer, represents 400 plus plaintiffs - most of them victims of 9/11. When I was in New York last week, everybody I was talking to, I mean 90 plus percent of them at ground zero - "I had family, I worked in the buildings, my son's a Navy Seal - he called the night before and said don't go to work." You know, all of this, and then now they never had any idea - and it turns out they had all these drills - and one drill of hijacked jets flying into the World Trade Center and Pentagon at 8:30 in the morning.
These planes were controlled by remote control, as I stated previously a year and a half ago, there's a system called Cyclops. There is a computer chip in the nose of the plane and it enables the ground control, the military ground control, to disable the pilot's control of the plane and to control it and to fly it directly into those towers. That's what happened. It's also a technology used on what's called the Global Hawk, which is an aircraft drone - a remote- controlled aircraft.
You've got these CIA agents, these Arabs, who were trained at U.S. military bases, Pensacola Naval Air Station - mainstream media, out creating their legends for this background. They're on board the aircraft. My military sources say nerve gas kills everybody on board the plane - nerve gas packets. Then they fly the planes into buildings. From your inside sources, is that accurate?
SH: It's one of the things that we are looking into - that nerve gas or something else disabled people. It's possible. I can't say for sure to be honest with you
AJ: All you know is they were government agents and they were on board and the planes were remote controlled.
SH: Yeah, it was basically a smokescreen. I mean, the events of the hijackings, how someone snuck in those cutters, it was a plant. It was like a classic decoy. I've got some military background. And it's called decoy. It's a decoy operation. You make the people focus on the decoy to avoid looking at the real criminals. So they are focusing on these so-called nineteen hijackers and saying, "Oh, it must have been these Arabs. When, in fact, the guilty person is at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue - sitting in the oval office. That's the guilty person. That's the one who authorized it. There is only one man who could have authorized this operation and that's Bush. And anyone at NORAD will tell you as I have been told personally at NORAD in the war control room, there is only one man who has the power to do this kind of thing and that's Bush. Even though many believe he's a puppet. And I think in many ways he is. The fact of the matter is where was [ ] Cheney, Rumsfeld and these other traitors. The fact is Bush personally ordered and he's guilty and liable and he's going to be re-elected apparently because the media's asleep and [garbled] for Bush.
AJ: Well, the media is owned by the same military industrial complex that carried out the attacks.
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/091204hilton.htm
fenianforever1689 05-27-2006, 02:57 AM Moose-o-oui wants a new trial and osama trashbin latrine says he is innocent.
Maybe obl will come if he is called as a "character" witness?
kathaksung 06-06-2006, 04:32 PM Moussaoui hoax (3)
The background why Moussaoui is put on court at this time. It's when Charlie Sheen had his opinion that 911 is likely an inside job and other experts in succession suggest that 911 was manipulated by this administration as another Pearl Harbor. Bush government is in a trough of untrustworthy. They need help. So they push out Moussaoui.
Moussaoui's "I am Al Qaida." became the big title of media. He admitted his mission was to fly the fifth plane to hit the White House. That's what government wants. How convenient they got the evidence to prove it's an Al Qaida's work not their's.
But question comes again. How could Moussaoui hijack a plane by himself? How could he control the passengers while flying a plane? Where is other team member? So now government must find some other puppets and create some stories to support this 5th plane's story.
What a circus. Still we saw government releasing the conversation between the WTC victim and 911 emergence dispatcher, or let out a new film of "flight 93". At this time, it was used as a tool of psychological influence. You can see how government control public's mind if you stand at a higher level and watch over these news.
kathaksung 06-16-2006, 05:28 PM Moussaoui hoax (4)
FBI awards man who blocked MN investigation
Quote, " FBI performs a nasty little sequel to whistle-blower saga
Doug Grow Star Tribune Published Dec. 22, 2002
The Star Tribune's Greg Gordon reported last week that at a quiet little ceremony earlier this month, Marion (Spike) Bowman was one of nine people in the bureau to receive an award for "exceptional performance." The award carries with it a cash bonus of 20 to 35 percent of the recipient's salary and a framed certificate signed by the president.
What does this have to do with Rowley?
Bowman heads the FBI's National Security Law Unit. That's the unit that blocked Minneapolis agents from pursuing their suspicions about Moussaoui.
There were no FBI honors for the Minneapolis office. There was a big honor for the lead antagonist of the Minneapolis office."
http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/3547688.html
When the low ranking FBI agent warned his supervisors more than 70 times that Moussaoui was a terrorist and might hijack a plane, he got no reward for his good work.
But the high ranking officer got a reward after that. What achievement has he got that could overcome the big mistake (or more accurately, a criminal neglegence) that he had blocked the important discovery his staff has made?
That's why I say Moussaoui was a prepared witness by inside group. Low ranking FBI agent did their job to report it. The high ranking officials knew what was it. It was too early to declair Moussaoui was a potential hijacker. They must block it otherwise there would be no 911, and the war the inside group wanted couldn't go true. Those who blocked the revelation got a reward.
kathaksung 06-26-2006, 05:50 PM Government released a cockpit tape. It could be a fake from the "disinformation strategy office" of intelligence. As cheap as Bin Laden's tape and Nick Berg's beheading tape. To produce one like that is as easy as to produce a film "Flight 93".
Appeals to Fabricated Evidence
The most stunning example of government mendacity in the Moussaoui trial, Fetzer explains, came with the inflammatory recordings, allegedly the last moments of Flight 93, which went down in Pennsylvania. "Not only should they not have been admitted into evidence," he said, "but Allen Green has noted that much of the conversation is from the passenger cabin -- which would not have been picked up in by the cockpit voice recorder, even through an open door. Yet the cockpit door was supposed to be closed before it was finally broken open using a drink cart."
Another blunder was noted by a Muslim member of S9/11T. The last words of the "hijackers" on the tape are "Allah is great! (Allahu akbar!"). Muhammad Columbo says, "The last words of a Muslim cannot be these! They are used in the call to prayer, or in an attack at war. On the moment of death, a Muslim must confirm that "There is but one God, Allah, and that Mohammed is his prophet!" The government's own evidence proves either the tapes or the Muslims are fake.
Fetzer has also been struck by the use of phrases that appear to come from Hollywood scripts. "It's not enough that he talks about "making his day" as though he were a fan of Dirty Harry, but he also parodies "Born in the USA" with his rendition of "Burn in the USA" and has described his trial as a 'cyberlynching'. We are so used to movies that we may not notice this is supposed to be real life, where this trial appears to be following a script.
Scholars for 9/11 Truth
Prof. James Fetzer
218-726-7269
http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=100677;title=AP FN
hadit 06-27-2006, 08:37 AM Moussaoui thinks he was involved. I do too.
kathaksung 07-06-2006, 07:02 PM Moussaoui thinks he was involved. I do too.
So your mind is at same level as Moussaoui. Moussaoui later changed his mind. He plead not guilty. Do you follow him?
From begining, the judge didn't believe Moussaoui.
Quote,
"Judge Doubts Moussaoui's Claims About 9/11
By MATTHEW BARAKAT, Associated Press Writer Wed May 3, 9:15 AM ET
ALEXANDRIA, Va. - The judge presiding over Zacarias Moussaoui's sentencing told trial lawyers that she doesn't believe Moussaoui's claims on the witness stand that he knew advance details of the Sept. 11 plot.
"I still think that Moussaoui was not accurate in a lot of what he said about how much he knew about what was going to happen with which particular buildings and when," U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema said during a closed hearing on April 21 outside the jury's presence. Transcripts of the hearing were released Tuesday.
Moussaoui's bombshell testimony on March 27, in which he took the stand against the advice of his court-appointed lawyers and claimed a direct role in the 9/11 plot after years of denial, revived a moribund prosecution case. Defense attorneys have argued that Moussaoui lied on the stand either to inflate his role in history or antagonize the jury into making him a martyr through execution.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060503/ap_on_re_us/moussaoui_13;_ylt=AhnK3Tggrldby1taKcobY30Tv5UB;_yl u=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
kathaksung 07-16-2006, 05:40 PM The actual events were created hoax. Cheney knew it before news reported it. All this was pre-planned.
Quote, "Flight 93: The New Media Campaign
Sat Apr 15, 2006 00:06
64.140.158.37
Flight 93: The New Media Campaign
by Russell Pickering
russellpickering@bresnan.net
Why has Flight 93 suddenly taken center stage? Plain and simple it is the last resort of the perpetrators to hide. As 9/11 Truth groups successfully move forward with the goal of awakening Americans to the facts of the four events that occurred that day, only one is in a remote, obscure field. Only one was unavailable for real inspection (even in photos) until the trial. Only one is embedded in a legend of heroism.
Is there any evidence that the story of heroism was a pre-planned cover story? Yes there is. In an interview with CNN's John King in the vice president's office on September 11, 2002 Cheney was reported to have made a very interesting statement.
"Word came that Flight 93 crashed in Pennsylvania. Aides frantically called the White House to find out whether a military jet had shot it down.
"'The vice president was a little bit ahead of us,' said Eric Edelman, Cheney's national security advisor. 'He said sort of softly and to nobody in particular, 'I think an act of heroism just took place on that plane.'" (1)
In the context of having just given shoot down orders they received word that Flight 93 had crashed. They had no idea why as evidenced by the fact they were trying to determine if a military jet had shot it down. But Cheney in an underground bunker with confusion raging everywhere and no knowledge beyond what his aides were telling him says, "I think an act of heroism just took place on that plane."? Wait a second…..what could he have possibly based that statement on?
Even his aide noticed Cheney was, "a little bit ahead of us". I would go so far as to say he was a lot ahead of everybody. There was absolutely no possible way that Cheney was aware of the alleged cell phone calls and most certainly he had not heard the cockpit voice recorder. Where did he get his idea from?
http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=100501;title=AP FN
hadit 07-17-2006, 08:39 AM So your mind is at same level as Moussaoui. Moussaoui later changed his mind. He plead not guilty. Do you follow him?
Nope. I still think he's guilty. I think he changed his plea in an attempt to avoid prosecution.
kathaksung 07-26-2006, 07:06 PM Nope. I still think he's guilty. I think he changed his plea in an attempt to avoid prosecution.
Go find some other excuse. Moussaoui faces the same prosecution when he admitted it and then pleaded not guilty after sentencing.
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Stephen M. St. John
Precursors to Remote-Controlled Flights of 9/11?
Tue May 2, 2006 18:17
The 9/11 Commissioners ignored indications of remote control piloting of the jets of 9/11 brought forward by retired Army Colonel Donn de Grand Pre (among others), who had convened within days of 9/11 a meeting of military, commercial and civilian aviators and experts. Their conclusions, which De Grand Pre reported to the highest levels of the Pentagon, were that the jets of 9/11 could not possibly have been flown the way they were flown by Arab flight students and that the best explanation for these flights was that they were flown by remote control during the peak activities of multiple NORAD drills.
http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=100918;title=AP FN;pagemark=40
kathaksung 08-06-2006, 06:06 PM Zionist Commando Daniel Lewin Orchestrated The 9-11 Terrorist Attacks
His Troops Stole Arab Identites While Mossad Agents In Hollywood, Florida Assassinated Mohammed Atta And Framed Him For The Crime
3/7/2004 12:55:07 AM
Anonymous
Now about Mohamed Atta … the so-called "ring leader". There are a number of inconsistencies with that story as well. Like some of the 7 hijackers known to be still alive, Atta also had his passport stolen in 1999, (perhaps the same passport that miraculously survived the WTC explosion and collapse?), making him an easy mark for identity theft. Atta was known to all as a shy, timid and sheltered young man who was uncomfortable with women. The 5 foot 7 inch, 150 pound architecture student was such a "goody two shoes" that some of his university acquaintances in Germany refrained from drinking or cursing in front of him. How this gentle, non-political momma's boy from a good Egyptian family suddenly transformed himself into the vodka drinking, go-go girl groping terrorist animal described by the media, has to rank as the greatest personality change since another classic work of fiction, Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde.
Atta, or someone using Atta's identity, had enrolled in a Florida flight school in 2001 and then broke off training, making it a point to tell his instructor he was leaving for Boston, In an October 2001 interview with an ABC affiliate in Florida, flight school president Rudi Dekkers said that his course does not qualify pilots to fly jumbo jets. He also described Atta as "an *******" Part of the reason for Dekker's dislike for Atta stems from a highly unusual incident that occurred at the beginning of the course. Here's the exchange between ABC producer Quentin McDermott and Dekkers:
MCDERMOTT: "Why do you say Atta was an *******?"
DEKKERS: "Well, when Atta was here and I saw his face on several occasions in the building, then I know that they're regular students and then I try to talk to them, it's a kind of PR – where are you from? I tried to communicate with him. I found out from my people that he lived in Hamburg and he spoke German so one of the days that I saw him, I speak German myself, I'm a Dutch citizen, and I started in the morning telling him in German, "Good morning. How are you? How do you like the coffee? Are you happy here?", and he looked at me with cold eyes, didn't react at all and walked away. That was one of my first meetings I had."
That is easily similar to the way in which Zacharias Moussaoui (the so- called "20th hijacker") became "belligerent" when his Minnesota flight instructor tried to speak to him in French (his first language) at the beginning of that course. The Minnesota Star Tribune reported on December 21, 2001:
"Moussaoui first raised eyebrows when, during a simple introductory exchange, he said he was from France, but then didn't seem to understand when the instructor spoke French to him. Moussaoui then became belligerent and evasive about his background, Congressman Oberstar and other sources said. In addition, he seemed inept at basic flying procedures, while seeking expensive training on an advanced commercial jet simulator."
It truly is an amazing twist of fate that both Atta and Moussaoui had American flight instructors who spoke German and French respectively. Even the great Mossad could not have foreseen such a coincidence! The real Atta would have been able to respond to his instructor's German small talk and the real Moussaoui would have been able to respond to his instructor's French small talk. Atta just walked away and Moussaoui threw a fit! Neither responded because neither could. They were impostors, whose faces were probably disguised by a make up artist. Their mission was to frame the two innocent Arabs who were probably targeted by the Mossad at random.
The imposter was able to create a new Atta by using Atta's stolen passport from 1999 – the same passport that floated safely to the ground with a few burnt edges on 9-11. These strange inconsistencies tend to give support to Mohammed Atta's father's claim that he spoke over the phone with his son on September 12th, the day after the attacks. Could a group of professionals have abducted and killed the real Atta in the days following the 9-11 attacks? Mossad agents, posing as "art students" were arrested after conducting some kind of operation in Hollywood, Florida, the same town that Atta stayed in! So what happened to the real Mohammed Atta? To quote his grief stricken father: "Ask Mossad!"
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