View Full Version : The President Breaks the Law. What's The GOP Solution? Just Re-write it.
Veracity 03-09-2006, 01:37 PM WASHINGTON, March 7 — Moving to tamp down Democratic calls for an investigation of the administration's domestic eavesdropping program, Republicans on the Senate Intelligence Committee said Tuesday that they had reached agreement with the White House on proposed bills to impose new oversight but allow wiretapping without warrants for up to 45 days.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/08/politics/08nsa.html?_r=1&hp&ex=1141794000&en=7b6645b10226f272&ei=5094&partner=homepage&oref=login
President gets blow job, the GOP pursues the president, a bad boy. President illegally wiretaps, the GOP says what the hell, president a good boy. Does anyone see a problem here?
hadit 03-09-2006, 02:38 PM http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/08/politics/08nsa.html?_r=1&hp&ex=1141794000&en=7b6645b10226f272&ei=5094&partner=homepage&oref=login
President gets blow job, the GOP pursues the president, a bad boy. President illegally wiretaps, the GOP says what the hell, president a good boy. Does anyone see a problem here?
Sure. What elected official that has been excoriating the White House for this program has demanded that it be stopped? And if they have not, are they not complicit in breaking the law and should they not ALL be held accountable? That effects far more than the GOP.
Feenix566 03-09-2006, 02:56 PM Sure. What elected official that has been excoriating the White House for this program has demanded that it be stopped? And if they have not, are they not complicit in breaking the law and should they not ALL be held accountable? That effects far more than the GOP.
Has anyone other than the administration NOT demanded that it be stopped?
DngrMse 03-09-2006, 03:03 PM Has anyone other than the administration NOT demanded that it be stopped?
Very few, that I recall, ever demanded that it be stopped.....among politicians. They make all the usual noises, but generally prefer not to actually commit to an unpopular position, even when forced. Remember the congressional resolution to immediately withdraw U.S. troops after Murtha's outrageous claims/demands? There were a lot of sympathetic voices on the left, but once they were forced to vote one way or the other.....well, we all know what happened.
Feenix566 03-09-2006, 03:21 PM Very few, that I recall, ever demanded that it be stopped.....among politicians. They make all the usual noises, but generally prefer not to actually commit to an unpopular position, even when forced. Remember the congressional resolution to immediately withdraw U.S. troops after Murtha's outrageous claims/demands? There were a lot of sympathetic voices on the left, but once they were forced to vote one way or the other.....well, we all know what happened.
Well, the American public will keep voting their favorite senators back into office, even if they do allow the administration to wire-tap them, so I guess that means we deserve to lose all our privacy. :shrug:
DngrMse 03-09-2006, 03:25 PM Well, the American public will keep voting their favorite senators back into office, even if they do allow the administration to wire-tap them, so I guess that means we deserve to lose all our privacy. :shrug:
Unless you are on Zarqawi's speed dial, chances are you are'nt being wire-tapped. But I'm sure you knew that, and prefer instead to engage in a little intellectual dishonesty instead.
Veracity 03-09-2006, 04:38 PM There has been a slew of citizen organizations who have voiced their disapproval about the NSA warrantless wiretapping program. There's also been constitutional scholars, law professors, journalists, (et cetera) who have stated that the program may be illegal. Senator Pat Roberts just recently killed what was supposed to be a vote regarding how the committee he chaired would look into this. He's a republican of course so what else is new.
Also, this is one of the issues cited by Rep. Conyers as a basis for Pres. Bush's impeachment.
Veracity 03-09-2006, 06:41 PM Here's a good read:
Senate Panel Blocks Eavesdropping Probe
The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence voted along party lines yesterday to reject a Democratic proposal to investigate the Bush administration's domestic surveillance program and instead approved establishing, with White House approval, a seven-member panel to oversee the effort.
Chairman Pat Roberts (R-Kan.) told reporters after the closed session that he had asked the committee "to reject confrontation in favor of accommodation" and that the new subcommittee, which he described as "an accommodation with the White House," would "conduct oversight of the terrorist surveillance program." The program, which became public in December, has allowed the National Security Agency to monitor phone calls and e-mails between U.S. residents and suspected terrorists abroad without first obtaining warrants from a secret court that handles such matters.
Diverlady 03-09-2006, 07:22 PM It seem Americans these days are prepared to sacrifice all of their liberties out of fear that some Arab will come after them. 3 points to Osama for a long shot. Game score so far Osama 50 US 10
h2g2Fan 03-09-2006, 08:26 PM Sure. What elected official that has been excoriating the White House for this program has demanded that it be stopped?
Russ Feingold
http://feingold.senate.gov/cgi-bin/nph-dpc1s?dir=%7Efeingold&keys=wiretapping&matchop=and&head=searchhead&foot=searchfoot&cols=0%2C80%2C20
hadit 03-10-2006, 07:31 AM Russ Feingold
http://feingold.senate.gov/cgi-bin/nph-dpc1s?dir=%7Efeingold&keys=wiretapping&matchop=and&head=searchhead&foot=searchfoot&cols=0%2C80%2C20
Is he the only one willing to put his money where his mouth is?
Veracity 03-10-2006, 01:27 PM Is he the only one willing to put his money where his mouth is?
What does that mean.
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