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SivVulk
03-06-2006, 07:22 PM
Gladiators may have fought and died to entertain others in the brutality of the Roman arena but they appear to have abided by a strict code of conduct which avoided savage violence, forensic scientists say.

Tests on the remains of 67 gladiators found in tombs at Ephesus in Turkey, centre of power for ancient Rome's eastern empire, show they stuck to well defined rules of combat and avoided gory free-for-alls.

Injuries to the front of each skull suggested that each opponent used just one type of weapon per bout of face-to-face contact, two Austrian researchers report in a paper to be published in Forensic Science International.

Savage violence and mutilation, typical of battlefields 2,000 years ago, were out of order.

And the losers appear to have died quickly.

Despite the fact that most gladiators wore helmets, 10 of the remains showed the fighters had died of squarish hammer-like blows to the side of the head, possibly the work of a backstage executioner who finished off wounded losers after the fight.

The report confirms the picture given of battles in the arena by Roman artwork, which suggests gladiators were well matched and followed rules enforced by two referees.



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Here's my two cents (using info from a paper i wrote last semester): while it's relatively easy to stage a gladiatorial fight between two or more combattants, whether by having rules on where to strike with the sword or fighting with blunted swords, fights between gladiators were but one form of combat in the Ancient Roman World.. Other forms included naumachiae (giant sea battles typically involving slaves and prisoners of war), bestiaris specially trained gladiators squaring off against animals and venatores executions where unarmed convicts/prisoners of war were pitted against animals.

The bestiari fights could range from one on combat to a fight between thousands of men versus thousands of animals.. (for example Caesar once put on a fight between 5000 infantrymen and 5000 elephants.


My question is: How regulated do you think gladiatorial games were? Do you think only fights between the most renowned gladiators were staged? All combats were staged? Or do you think it was a free for all?

Dreamscapist
03-07-2006, 12:06 AM
I would think the gladiators, all most likely slaves who boarded and trained together as well, would keep a code among themselves, one to avoid unnecessary cruelty and prolong life while putting on a good show. But when the thumbs went down, somebody had to go.

h2g2Fan
03-07-2006, 12:21 AM
american gladiators was not staged

Criminal
03-07-2006, 04:50 PM
I think its possible that the lessor games were not as brutal as we previously believed. But I am sure that the really great games which were set to honor the deaths of great leaders and emporers did result in considerable bloodshead. The Romans were truely bloodthirsty people.

Yuppie Gal
03-08-2006, 12:14 PM
Fascinating article, thanks for the link.

Von Apfelstrudel
03-08-2006, 12:31 PM
From what I've heard, fatality rate was rather low... Well, lower than the popular belief anyway , which made the career not an horrible one, especially considering it was mainly for slaves which had the prospect of ending freed and well off... I gather there even were some members of families of good standing but having fallen in economic hard times who would enlist as gladiators for a whille...

Criminal
03-09-2006, 08:30 AM
From what I've heard, fatality rate was rather low... Well, lower than the popular belief anyway , which made the career not an horrible one, especially considering it was mainly for slaves which had the prospect of ending freed and well off... I gather there even were some members of families of good standing but having fallen in economic hard times who would enlist as gladiators for a whille...
The Emporer Commodus entered the ring as well. He was a real fan of the games. Of course he made sure he won every time.

SivVulk
03-09-2006, 10:00 AM
The Emporer Commodus entered the ring as well. He was a real fan of the games. Of course he made sure he won every time.


He did indeed.... Commodus boasts no less than a thousand fights as either a gladiator or a bestiarus and he is said to have slain twelve thousand men and on some days he'd slaughter 100 bears just for kicks.. If you want to read bout it more read Alan Baker's "The Gladiator" published by Thomas Dunne Books. Commodus was a lot more f****** up than his portrayal in the movie "Gladiator"

wandering-mind
03-09-2006, 12:28 PM
It wouldn't be odd that they lived by a certain code. Honor in battle was a large thing during their time. And about the execution of the wounded doesn't surprise me. It was a lot cheaper to train a new one then support a sick or wounded one. Though if they were exceptionally popular or skilled they may have been allowed to live.

R.Tricky
03-10-2006, 02:30 AM
I have no friggin idea. I really enjoyed this thread tho.

SivVulk
03-12-2006, 01:35 PM
I have no friggin idea. I really enjoyed this thread tho.

what aspect in particular? h2g's humour? the degree of mental retardation in Commodus or just in general?

Feenix566
03-16-2006, 02:41 PM
My favorite part was when Commodus slayed 500 bears for kicks... :nice:

I thought H2G2's post was a little less funny than what I'm used to from him. It's okay, though, H2, you can't hit the bulls-eye every time.

R.Tricky
03-19-2006, 01:34 AM
what aspect in particular? h2g's humour? the degree of mental retardation in Commodus or just in general?

All of the above. :D I just found it to be an interesting read. It must have been fun researching it for your paper.

SivVulk
03-19-2006, 01:51 PM
All of the above. :D I just found it to be an interesting read. It must have been fun researching it for your paper.


yeah it was intersesting to research.... i still have the paper on my computer so if you wanna read it be my guest :) That goes for anyone :p I do warn you the writing is quite sub par :|

eeper69
03-19-2006, 02:25 PM
My question is: How regulated do you think gladiatorial games were? Do you think only fights between the most renowned gladiators were staged? All combats were staged? Or do you think it was a free for all?I don't know since I wasn't there :p

GSrider
04-04-2006, 05:45 PM
american gladiators was not staged

Staged? No.

Shite? Yes.

Yuppie Gal
04-05-2006, 01:29 PM
If you want to read bout it more read Alan Baker's "The Gladiator" published by Thomas Dunne Books. Commodus was a lot more f****** up than his portrayal in the movie "Gladiator"

Oh, I didn't know the film was based on a book- cool, can't wait to read it.

SivVulk
07-15-2006, 04:38 PM
Oh, I didn't know the film was based on a book- cool, can't wait to read it.


yeah sorry for resurrecting such an old thread but this post slipped through my radar screen (my apologies Yuppie). I just wanted to clarify that the movie was not in fact based on this book.

The book was an overview of gladitorial combat and the section on Commodus was just one of many.... So sorry for giving that impression

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