View Full Version : As a Califronian Republican
jimmyjude 02-26-2006, 01:13 AM I am not going to vote for Arnold.
I am not going to campaign for him either.
I didn't vote for the recall, and I voted for McClintock anyways.
Arnold hasn't done anything to earn a reelection.
Agree or not?
optimus 02-26-2006, 01:14 AM Agreed.
Criminal 02-26-2006, 01:34 AM I am not going to vote for Arnold.
I am not going to campaign for him either.
I didn't vote for the recall, and I voted for McClintock anyways.
Arnold hasn't done anything to earn a reelection.
Agree or not?
Agree. I am not a Californian but I did support him for Governer. I though anyone would be better than that ******* Davis. I guess I was wrong.:not:
jimmyjude 02-26-2006, 01:38 AM Davis should have never been recalled. What I should say is that Davis did nothing to warrant a recall. Davis made a fatal error when he signed the license bill for illegals.
What Davis was recalled for was presenting a rosy budget picture before the election and then presenting a more realistic one after.
Not much different than Bush had done.
Betrade 02-26-2006, 08:01 AM The problems of California aren't going to go away easily, nor is one man going to solve them.
The citizens need to wake up and realize what has gotten them into the mess they're in, and start doing the opposite. More of the same will not change a thing, and if more liberals are elected, things will get even worse.
Jay GW 02-26-2006, 10:58 AM A governor has no power to change the mandated expenses like Medi Cal that are the reason there's a budget problem. Nor can he/she change the fact that the property taxes are frozen at 1970s levels. If the property taxes were based on current market rates California wouldn't have a budget problem. Who the governor happens to be has nothing to do with it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_13_(1978)
the Times has reported that the property tax bill of the historic Capitol Records building in Hollywood is approximately five cents per square foot, while a small house assessed at $300,000 may pay up to 60 times that on a per-square-foot basis.
Mobile Vulgus 02-26-2006, 01:00 PM I don't think ANY Gov. can fix Calif. The only thing that will do it is a localized depression. ALL businesses must leave the state.
California does not need higher taxes.
jimmyjude 02-26-2006, 01:33 PM A governor has no power to change the mandated expenses like Medi Cal that are the reason there's a budget problem. Nor can he/she change the fact that the property taxes are frozen at 1970s levels. If the property taxes were based on current market rates California wouldn't have a budget problem. Who the governor happens to be has nothing to do with it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_13_(1978)
the Times has reported that the property tax bill of the historic Capitol Records building in Hollywood is approximately five cents per square foot, while a small house assessed at $300,000 may pay up to 60 times that on a per-square-foot basis.
Well I will tell you that Prop. 13 isn't going anywhere, nor should it.
Old people literally were being forced out of their homes from property tax increases in the 60's and 70's.
I think that business might be exempted and like someone above said more businesses will leave the state.
It is the liberals that got us into this mess, let them figure it out.
Jay GW 02-26-2006, 03:05 PM Old people literally were being forced out of their homes from property tax increases in the 60's and 70's.
Is the only remedy to value houses at 1978 prices?
caddis 02-26-2006, 06:06 PM The problems of California aren't going to go away easily, nor is one man going to solve them.
The citizens need to wake up and realize what has gotten them into the mess they're in, and start doing the opposite. More of the same will not change a thing, and if more liberals are elected, things will get even worse.
agreed.
CA had a chance in the last special election to actually do some good for itself by putting the task of drawing up election districts in the hands of retired judges instead of the politicians. That failed like all the other propositions
loveblessing 02-26-2006, 06:16 PM What is a "Califronian"? I've never heard of it.
jimmyjude 02-26-2006, 07:02 PM Is the only remedy to value houses at 1978 prices?
Do you think that that is what is happening?
When the house is sold it is revalued and taxes are assessed from there.
You must really want a progressive tax program or you are not a homeowner.
jimmyjude 02-26-2006, 07:05 PM What is a "Califronian"? I've never heard of it.
it is a person who is a conscientous objector to the liberal mentality held incommunicado until the advent of the internet
loveblessing 02-26-2006, 11:16 PM http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/beausoleil/Internet%20funnies/1139539109854.jpg
jimmyjude 02-27-2006, 03:39 AM You really don't have anything to add but lame pictures?
BooRadley 02-27-2006, 05:22 AM You guys got what you deserved. "Tee hee hee i'm going to vote for arnold he is the gobernator lolol hehehe"
Elections aren't jokes. Well, they're not supposed to be, and this is why.
Betrade 02-27-2006, 07:40 AM A governor has no power to change the mandated expenses like Medi Cal that are the reason there's a budget problem. Nor can he/she change the fact that the property taxes are frozen at 1970s levels. If the property taxes were based on current market rates California wouldn't have a budget problem. Who the governor happens to be has nothing to do with it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_13_(1978)
the Times has reported that the property tax bill of the historic Capitol Records building in Hollywood is approximately five cents per square foot, while a small house assessed at $300,000 may pay up to 60 times that on a per-square-foot basis.
Raising property taxes will merely drain even more capital from the private sector and put it into the hands of government, who will then spend it foolishly as politicians always do. No matter how much they receive, it's never enough. The budget deficit is proof of this.
Increasing property taxes will cause the asessments to rise at a higher rate, and make home ownership even more difficult than it already is. Politicians would raise those asessments every time there was a budget crisis. It's happened here in MD numerous times. Even though the rate doesn't rise, the asessments rise every years to above market prices.
It would be better to freeze spending, with an allowance for a 2% overall annual increase, and immediately do something about illegals receiving government funds and services. Someone needs to convince the citizens that the state simply doesn't have the money to continue this foolish policy. It drags everyone down for the benefit of the few, and encourages even more people to illegally enter the US by way of California.
Anyone who wants to make it even HARDER for families to afford homes in CA is insane. Young couples in my family move out of CA because they can't afford it and everyone is thinking of retiring elsewhere. There needs to be less spending, not more taxes.
caddis 02-27-2006, 09:17 AM You guys got what you deserved. "Tee hee hee i'm going to vote for arnold he is the gobernator lolol hehehe"
Elections aren't jokes. Well, they're not supposed to be, and this is why.This a fairly ignorant post. The problems in CA didn't begin with Arnold nor will they end with him.
Jay GW 02-27-2006, 10:53 AM http://www.matr.net/article-11359.html
here's an article on the out migration of young professionals from Ca to other states. It says that businesses want to leave because the employees are very dissatisfied with the the property prices and general quality of life.
The Gap company just left Ca and moved to Albuquerque NM and I've seen lots of people from Ca move to Texas the last few years. They have tons of cash and buy much bigger houses if they leave.
The problem in California isn't anybody's fault to some extent, because Gray Davis banked VERY heavily on the technology boom continuing. Well, that didn't happen and the tech industry is moving to Asia, so Ca isn't going to see any more booms in that area. Number two, the entertainment industry is hit hard by file sharing and piracy and isn't going to grow much either.
There are two reasons why anyone moved to California over the last 50 years: to be a star or a software tycoon. California was built because young, inventive, creative and ambitious people moved there. Why would anyone want to go there now?
BooRadley 02-27-2006, 11:22 AM This a fairly ignorant post. The problems in CA didn't begin with Arnold nor will they end with him.
I didn't say all of the problems started with Arnold. I said the problem of Arnold being the governor is their own fault. They deserve arnold because they elected him.
jimmyjude 02-27-2006, 04:03 PM http://www.matr.net/article-11359.html
here's an article on the out migration of young professionals from Ca to other states. It says that businesses want to leave because the employees are very dissatisfied with the the property prices and general quality of life.
The Gap company just left Ca and moved to Albuquerque NM and I've seen lots of people from Ca move to Texas the last few years. They have tons of cash and buy much bigger houses if they leave.
The problem in California isn't anybody's fault to some extent, because Gray Davis banked VERY heavily on the technology boom continuing. Well, that didn't happen and the tech industry is moving to Asia, so Ca isn't going to see any more booms in that area. Number two, the entertainment industry is hit hard by file sharing and piracy and isn't going to grow much either.
There are two reasons why anyone moved to California over the last 50 years: to be a star or a software tycoon. California was built because young, inventive, creative and ambitious people moved there. Why would anyone want to go there now?
Companies and people are leaving but not for the reasons you stated. They are leaving, amongst other reasons, because there are too many taxes, the state is run by a bunch of c***s****** like Mark Leno and Arnold, housing costs too much.
Also people didn't come here for the reasons you stated. For example, my parents came here in the 70's in preparation for emigration to Australia but my Mom didn't want to give up her citizenship or leave the US.
People still come here now. But for the first time in history more people are leaving than coming (excluding Julios).
The weather is great here. The population is diverse. You can experience more here than you can in the entire state of Texas for instance (LOL)>
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