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Feenix566
02-23-2006, 04:24 PM
Making a Meth of the PATRIOT Act
Legislative mission creep will turn runny noses and lobster fishing into terrorist acts
John Berlau


If you thought al Qaeda or Iraqi insurgents were the major threats facing America, Rep. Charlie Dent (R-Pa.) says you're wrong. According to Dent, "The growing availability of methamphetamine is a form of terrorism unto itself." Many of Dent's colleagues apparently agree, so they've attached surveillance, "smuggling", and "money laundering" provisions to the reauthorization of the USA PATRIOT Act.

These vast new police powers, contained in a new "Combat Methamphetamine Act" (CMA) and other provisions, serve no purpose in the ongoing and serious struggle against terrorism. One proposal would place millions of Americans who purchase cold medicine on a huge government watch list; another would be used to prosecute people for catching lobsters whose tails are too short. What could possibly be Congress' motivation in adding stuff like this to a mammoth piece of counterterrorism legislation (ironically, as part of an agreement negotiated with wavering Senators to put more checks on the government's PATRIOT Act powers)? The answer is, to tweak the parlance of pundits, very September 10th. The CMA pushes Congress's favorite pre-9/11 bipartisan activity: escalating the never-ending War on Drugs.

Ironically, some Democrats who objected to National Security Agency wiretaps in December actually championed provisions that step on privacy in the name of stopping meth. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, (D-Calif.), who voted for a filibuster after the revelation of the National Security Agency's domestic spying program in December, co-sponsored the CMA and helped insert it into the PATRIOT Act conference report after failed attempts to pass it through other legislation. The new provisions were stalled with the filibuster and temporary PATRIOT extensions, but now appear to be poised for passage with the compromise bill.

The CMA would move cold medicines such as Sudafed behind the counter, on the grounds that their active ingredient, pseudoephedrine, is a potential meth component. In DiFi's words, the solution to this non-problem would include "requiring purchasers to show identification and sign a log book."

Once you sign for your medicine, your name becomes part of "a functional monitoring program" that would "allow law enforcement officials to track and ultimately prevent suspicious buying behavior of ingredients for meth production," according to a Feinstein press release describing a similar stand-alone bill.


http://www.reason.com/hod/jb022306.shtml

But the Patriot Act will only hurt the terrorists, right? We don't have anything to worry about right? They would never use it to cut down on civil liberties, right? :not:

Mandrake
02-23-2006, 04:26 PM
On the upside, this means we should start winning the "war on drugs" any day now, right? ;)

jimmyjude
02-23-2006, 04:31 PM
There is, of course, alot of fear of meth. That is because yet again the media is stoking the flames of fear.

Who hasn't heard about "rural crank use and cooking"?

anyways this is the pillow/balloon argument. You push on one side and the other inflates.

what congress should be looking at is that the Mexicans import enough precursors to meth to give each Mexican citizen 5 pounds a year of the stuff.

Mexicans can't possibly be that prone to runny noses, can they?

So while America busies itself trying to eliminate the "crank epidemic/pandemic" from the US all they are doing is facilitating the production to Mexico.

PlatyGuy
02-23-2006, 05:43 PM
Sudafed is already behind the counter, at least in Massachusetts, unless it's mixed with other ingredients. I also had some taken away when I visited Australia several years ago. I'm not saying how I feel about all that, but it might be of interest.

GROFF200
02-23-2006, 05:51 PM
In Mississippi these cold drugs are already behind the counter.
I suffer from allergies and bought some cold & sinus pills a few weeks ago. I had to show two forms of identification and sign a government list to even get it.

Mandrake
02-23-2006, 05:56 PM
In Mississippi these cold drugs are already behind the counter.
I suffer from allergies and bought some cold & sinus pills a few weeks ago. I had to show two forms of identification and sign a government list to even get it.

And I bet all the drug dealers and users have disappeared from your neighborhood!

Feenix566
02-24-2006, 10:58 AM
Maybe the government should just let the drug problem solve itself by ending this rediculous prohibition.

hadit
02-24-2006, 12:54 PM
Maybe they should have just reauthorized the PA in the first place without allowing this sort of monkeying around with it.

GROFF200
02-24-2006, 02:03 PM
And I bet all the drug dealers and users have disappeared from your neighborhood!

Well, I doubt it's a problem in my neighborhood but your point is well taken.
I live in an area way out in the sticks that is mostly populated by the elderly. It's great for peace and quiet, but not a lot of criminal enterprises nearby.

Feenix566
02-24-2006, 02:46 PM
Well, I doubt it's a problem in my neighborhood but your point is well taken.
I live in an area way out in the sticks that is mostly populated by the elderly. It's great for peace and quiet, but not a lot of criminal enterprises nearby.

Well aren't you glad the DEA's got you on their watch list to keep it that way?

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