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Kraw
05-23-2002, 07:52 AM
this happened on my day off, so as usual, I missed all the activities.

I also heard on the radio this morning, that the guy said he never left home without his Qaran (that is the Muslim bible right?) and his shotgun.



Two injured when man opens fire at airport


He told police people were rude about his turban


05/23/02

By Stephanie Doster and Tara Young
Staff writers/The Times-Picayune

A former Marine from Pensacola, described as "eccentric" by his former attorney, told deputies he shot and wounded two people at Louis Armstrong International Airport on Wednesday because people made fun of his turban, police said.

Patrick Gott, 43, walked into the terminal, drew a 12-gauge shotgun out of his military-green duffel bag and fired one shot at 3:37 p.m. that critically injured a passenger and hit an airline employee in the hand.

A Southwest Airlines customer and a Southwest employee wrestled Gott to the ground as he was about to pump his shotgun to fire a second time, Jefferson Parish Sheriff Harry Lee said.

The wounded passenger, a 45-year-old woman from California, was in critical but stable condition at Kenner Regional Medical Center after surgery Wednesday night. She has several wounds from the single shotgun shell, a hospital spokesman said.

Deputies said the act does not appear to be terrorism and that Gott acted alone, but they are investigating with the help of the FBI, Kenner police and the Bureau of Tobacco, Alcohol and Firearms.

Gott told investigators he fired the shot because people had made rude comments about his turban, Lee said.

"That's his story," the sheriff said. "We don't know what his intention was."

Col. Robert Garner said Gott and his mother, also of Pensacola, Fla., drove to the airport to drop off a passenger. After that person got out of the car, Gott said he also wanted to get out and headed into the terminal with a duffel bag he always carries, Garner said.

He told police that once inside, he recognized people who had made fun of his turban earlier, Garner said. It is unclear when the taunting occurred, Garner said. Gott propped up his bag against a counter across from the Southwest and U.S. Airways ticket area, pulled a shotgun out of a 4-foot-long PVC tube wrapped in foam, crossed the terminal and fired, Lee said.

The blast sent employees and passengers scrambling for cover and staring in disbelief.


'I ducked and ran'

"I saw a very tall man with a something covering his head. I ducked and ran," said Mary Ann Rouanet, a U.S. Airways agent who was at the counter when the shot was fired. "I heard a loud boom. I didn't know if it was a shotgun or a bomb. We didn't know if it was just one guy or lots of guys."

Gott did not know either victim, Lee said.

Gott, wearing a floral-print shirt, shorts and black flip-flops, stared at the ground in silence as police escorted him out of the airport. He was booked on two counts of attempted murder and illegal carrying of a firearm. A bond hearing will be held this morning. He also could face federal charges, Garner said.

Garner said Gott cooperated with police, but expressed no remorse.

Gott was carrying a copy of the Quran, and had several more shotgun shells in his pocket, police said. He told police he is a Muslim who recites the Quran daily, Garner said.

Lee said several witnesses reported that Gott invoked the name of Allah before the shooting. Darrin Whiteside of Dallas said he thought Gott had said, "All right."

"It felt like kids' play at first, and then you see a big guy with a turban trying to unload," said Whiteside, who said he has survived a lightning strike and an earthquake.

"I just thank God I wasn't in the same spot," said Kathryn Walker of New Orleans, who had just dropped off an employment application at the U.S. Airways ticket counter when she heard a pop.


Happy-go-lucky guy

Philip L. Fairbanks, a bankruptcy attorney in Beaufort, S.C., who represented Gott in a bankruptcy case in 1998 when Gott lived in South Carolina, said his client never mentioned an interest in the Quran and he never saw Gott wear a turban in Beaufort.

"Religious fanaticism is certainly nothing that I would have associated with him," Fairbanks said. Gott was a single, happy-go-lucky guy, he said.

"He didn't seem despondent," Fairbanks said. "Your average bankruptcy client is your guy and his wife who have a couple of kids."

In Beaufort, a small, historic town about 30 minutes outside of Hilton Head, Gott, a large man, scooted around the community on a moped, Fairbanks said.

Gott once worked as a carpenter and seriously injured himself when he fell through the floor of a house under construction. Out of work and hurt, his bills began to pile up, Fairbanks said.

"The bankruptcy was the result of it," Fairbanks said.

Gott, with the help of Fairbanks, filed for bankruptcy on April 20, 1998. It took a couple more months to have his debts discharged, the attorney said.

One of the more interesting debts involved an irate dentist who did not receive payment for the gold tooth he placed in Gott's mouth, Fairbanks said.

"He was not your typical Joe, straight-arrow type," Fairbanks said of Gott. "He was a bit eccentric. But he was always perfectly capable of dealing with me. He seemed to be pretty well in touch with reality."


No criminal record

Records show that after filing for bankruptcy, Gott left Beaufort for Las Vegas and later moved to Kailua, Hawaii, where he remained until he moved to Pensacola last year.

Garner said Gott has no criminal record.

The shooting caused minor delays for Southwest and U.S. Airways passengers, who formed a long curbside check-in line outside the airport. Elsewhere in the terminal, travelers were not affected, airport spokeswoman Michelle Duffourc said.

After pausing for about 15 minutes after the shooting, airline employees "found ways to work around the situation," she said. But workers and passengers were still shaken.

"The first thing you think of is, ‘What's happening now?" said Paul Garcia of Hattiesburg who arrived at the airport minutes after the shooting to pick up a friend.

"I think it just shows us that the precautions we're taking need to be re-evaluated and possibly expanded," Garcia said. "Now it's to the point where they're going to have to check you at the door."

The Frog
05-23-2002, 09:39 AM
Good grief!

The dude is lucky the people that tackled him didn't flatten part of his head while subduing him. You just don't do that kind of crazy crap anymore, after last year.

Manu
05-23-2002, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by TheFrog
Good grief!

The dude is lucky the people that tackled him didn't flatten part of his head while subduing him. You just don't do that kind of crazy crap anymore, after last year.

I think you NEVER did THAT kind of crazy stuff, but thats just me...

If he was being heckled for his Turban, it is highly inappropriate, and I feel sorry for him, but man, is this just the big bully syndrome? Someone makes fun of me, so I am going to go pump them full of lead?

Kraw
05-23-2002, 01:13 PM
well,I talked to some cops, and they said that whole teasing the guy thing was just BS from the media

Foul Temptress
05-23-2002, 01:28 PM
That is terrible.

Kraw- I am glad you werent there.

Even if he was being harassed about his turben, which yes I agree is highly inappopriate, he should not have killed anyone. Why did he even havea gun? The fact he carried one is odd.

Snouter
05-23-2002, 11:09 PM
I heard about this and thought Kraw might be in there subduing this POS criminal but it turns Kraw was home relaxing watching Jerry Springer. ;)

Seriously Kraw I am very happy you had the day off and avoided the madness. The Muslim religion of today is madness and a cheap excuse for violence. Was the headgear a tablecloth with a rope or a turban? Maybe his mental problems were the result of the fall.

Where the hell were the security guards or police?

Powerboss
05-24-2002, 02:07 AM
Another muslim?

These guys are profiling themselves.

Kraw
05-24-2002, 07:16 AM
well, if you could see this guy, he DEFINETLY is not a normal profile for a muslim. I will see if I can find a pic of him

Snouter, we have security guards (Jeff Parish Sheriff's Office) all over the building.. they can't just walk around and follow every passenger around and check their bags. They arrived right after it happened. Another employee/pax stopped the guy after his gun jammed.

could have been alot worse


:werd:

Kraw
05-24-2002, 05:16 PM
not again!


Police: Man With Weapons Arrested At Armstrong

It has happened again.

A man who was stopped at a security checkpoint at Louis Armstrong International Airport was found to be carrying a knife and a gun. The stop escalated into a confrontation with police, airport spokeswoman Michelle Duffouc said.


Police have called a 2 p.m. news conference to discuss the latest in series of incidents at the airport.

Today's incident comes two days after a man pulled a shotgun out of a duffel bag in the ticket lobby and fired a blast that wounded two people.


The man, Patrick Gott, 43, of Pensacola, Florida, was booked with two counts of attempted first-degree murder. He is being held on bond of just over $1 million.


On Thursday, federal authorities announced the indictment of a Baton Rouge man who was arrested at the airport on May 6 for trying to carry two handguns onto an airliner. Carlos Stephens said at the time that he forgot the two 9 mm pistols were in his backpack.




the guy had a BB gun and bowie knife, he was a cab driver that called the authorities ahead of time to say he was coming "to finish what the other guy started" The cops tackled him as he came inside. He was/is a dumbass :rolleyes:

Oh yeah, he also said he just wanted to be on TV....
lol

here is the guy from today
http://images.ibsys.com/2002/0524/1479613_200X150.jpg

Kraw
05-24-2002, 05:22 PM
here is the first guy.. the one with the turbin on

http://images.ibsys.com/2002/0523/1476616_200X150.jpg

http://a676.g.akamai.net/f/676/1288/1d/www.wwltv.com/local/I_IMAGE.edea83e5e1.93.88.fa.80.13e91f46.jpg
http://a676.g.akamai.net/f/676/1288/1d/www.wwltv.com/local/M_IMAGE.edea83e5e1.93.88.fa.80.10d4874c.jpg

Kraw
05-27-2002, 10:12 PM
the lady that was shot died tonight :(



WOMAN HIT BY A SHOTGUN BLAST LAST WEEK AT ARMSTRONG INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT HAS DIED.

The woman was one of two people hit when Patrick Gott opened fire at the U- S Air ticket counter. Her death means Gott will likely face murder charges.
On Wednesday May 22nd, Police say the woman was standing in line at Armstrong International when Patrick Gott, a 43 year old man from Pensacola, shot her. According to police, Gott pulled a 12 gauge shotgun from a duffle bag. Gott told investigators he pulled a gun because people made fun of his turban. The woman's name has not been released at the request of the family. But she's said to be in her 40's and an employee of the U-S Defense Department.

WyldOne
05-28-2002, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by Snouter
The Muslim religion of today is madness and a cheap excuse for violence.

I'm always troubled by generalizations.

Couldn't one say the exact same thing about the Christian religion, every time someone shoots an ob/gyn or bombs a womens health clinic?

jwreck
05-28-2002, 03:12 PM
A former Marine from Pensacola, I thought that part was quite interesting. Funny how I didn't hear more about that.

Cosmo
07-07-2002, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by WyldOne


I'm always troubled by generalizations.

Couldn't one say the exact same thing about the Christian religion, every time someone shoots an ob/gyn or bombs a womens health clinic?

I guess you could say that except there are major differences, such as no christian leader that I kn0w of or ever heard of is calling for volunteers to kill people, no christian radio or TV station calls for christians to kill people, and when one nut kills an abortion doctor, his actions are condemned, soundly, and not defended by anyone.

so I guess you could say that but it would seem to have little basis in fact.

mrWr0ng
07-08-2002, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by Cosmo


I guess you could say that except there are major differences, such as no christian leader that I kn0w of or ever heard of is calling for volunteers to kill people,
http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/index.html

no christian radio or TV station calls for christians to kill people,
no christians are at war with any other nation.

and when one nut kills an abortion doctor, his actions are condemned, soundly, and not defended by anyone.
aside from nations at war, no one is defending muslim terrorism. maybe you missed the day of 9/11 when every middle eastern country (including palestine) came out against the 9/11 attacks? how about american muslims coming out against muslim terrorism? did you miss all those? you must have, since they've been posted time and again, and linked to time and again.

Cosmo
07-08-2002, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by mrWr0ng

http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/index.html


no christians are at war with any other nation.


aside from nations at war, no one is defending muslim terrorism. maybe you missed the day of 9/11 when every middle eastern country (including palestine) came out against the 9/11 attacks? how about american muslims coming out against muslim terrorism? did you miss all those? you must have, since they've been posted time and again, and linked to time and again.

How can you say I must have missed them since they were posted time and time again? That makes no sense. I also didn't miss the chief cleric of Syria, Egypt, and Iraq calling for a holy war against us. I also saw the execution and butchery of Danial Perle on Muslim TV, and have heard the vituperative railings against Americans by Muslim radio, some of which is broadcast here in the States. You didn't miss those either I'll bet. Niether did I miss the fact that there were Muslims dancing in the streets on 9-11, both here and abroad. I have quite an open mind, but muslims have decalred themselves to be our enemy. They are no differnt than the NOI, another racist organization.

mrWr0ng
07-08-2002, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by Cosmo


How can you say I must have missed them since they were posted time and time again? That makes no sense. I also didn't miss the chief cleric of Syria, Egypt, and Iraq calling for a holy war against us. I also saw the execution and butchery of Danial Perle on Muslim TV, and have heard the vituperative railings against Americans by Muslim radio, some of which is broadcast here in the States. You didn't miss those either I'll bet. Niether did I miss the fact that there were Muslims dancing in the streets on 9-11, both here and abroad. I have quite an open mind, but muslims have decalred themselves to be our enemy. They are no differnt than the NOI, another racist organization.

the ONLY footage of muslims dancing in the streets abroad that i know of was the fabled palestinians dancing, which was later admitted by the medias who played it as being archive footage taken MONTHS before the US was ever attacked - they were actually dancing because of a soccer match that a team won.
as far as egypt, syria and iraq declaring holy wars (which none of them did, this was only individual assertions), all the countries that are mad at us are so because we support israel's presence in the ME, the country which has taken their land and murders their brothers.
the butchery of daniel pearl, while a foul murder, is again - isolated incidents.
MUSLIMS are not our enemies - ENEMIES are our enemies. there are MILLIONS of muslims in the US who live happily and peacefully and support the US just as much as you or I, and there are a BILLION world wide who have no wish to attack the US, and the only ones who DO feel so because the US is taking over their countries governments, supporting israel and its murderous tyrade, and generally being where it shouldn't belong.
muslims are not our enemies, our actions make citizens of the countries we poke around in our enemies - just because they happen to be muslim is not indicative of muslims as a whole, so don't try to go talking like you have an "open mind" because you don't, or else you would realise that no one can write off 1/6th of the entire world's population as a bunch of people with nothing better to do than hate us.

Cosmo
07-08-2002, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by mrWr0ng


the ONLY footage of muslims dancing in the streets abroad that i know of was the fabled palestinians dancing, which was later admitted by the medias who played it as being archive footage taken MONTHS before the US was ever attacked - they were actually dancing because of a soccer match that a team won.
as far as egypt, syria and iraq declaring holy wars (which none of them did, this was only individual assertions), all the countries that are mad at us are so because we support israel's presence in the ME, the country which has taken their land and murders their brothers.
the butchery of daniel pearl, while a foul murder, is again - isolated incidents.
MUSLIMS are not our enemies - ENEMIES are our enemies. there are MILLIONS of muslims in the US who live happily and peacefully and support the US just as much as you or I, and there are a BILLION world wide who have no wish to attack the US, and the only ones who DO feel so because the US is taking over their countries governments, supporting israel and its murderous tyrade, and generally being where it shouldn't belong.
muslims are not our enemies, our actions make citizens of the countries we poke around in our enemies - just because they happen to be muslim is not indicative of muslims as a whole, so don't try to go talking like you have an "open mind" because you don't, or else you would realise that no one can write off 1/6th of the entire world's population as a bunch of people with nothing better to do than hate us.

What a nice civil reply, who are you and what have you done with wOng? Never mind, whatevr you did, leave him there. I fully expected some kind of "cornhole remark", for which he is justifiable infamous.

Because we don't support the genocide of Israel eh Muslims hate us. So whta would you have us do? Jsut walk aawwy and let them cut the thraots of all Jews?

Whose Muslim country aer we trying to run? Afghi? those peole never had it this good. Iraq? Youknow they will try to Nuke us or send us some bio weapon. What they did to the Kurds proves it.

mrWr0ng
07-08-2002, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by Cosmo


What a nice civil reply, who are you and what have you done with wOng? Never mind, whatevr you did, leave him there. I fully expected some kind of "cornhole remark", for which he is justifiable infamous.

Because we don't support the genocide of Israel eh Muslims hate us. So whta would you have us do? Jsut walk aawwy and let them cut the thraots of all Jews?

Whose Muslim country aer we trying to run? Afghi? those peole never had it this good. Iraq? Youknow they will try to Nuke us or send us some bio weapon. What they did to the Kurds proves it.

here is the history of the ME (as far as it is relevant).

Palestine: palestinians are living in palestine. everyone is happy. world war II happens, jews need a place to live.
in steps the US and the rest of the UN, and says "hey, here's palestine. we don't officially recognize palestine, so let's give this land to the jews! here ya go, jews! take this land!
"What do you mean there are people living on it? well don't worry, kick them out of their homes, put them in refugee camps and take over their houses. we'll give them a few strips on which to live. but go ahead and settle there if you want to, as well."
so israel comes in, the palestinians lose their homes and their land, move into refugee camps, they're promised bits and pieces of land, but israel starts 6 wars and takes most of the little land the palestinians have left.
and how does israel manage to win these wars? with the US' help of course - their weapons and money.
so now egypt, syria, iraq, iran, etc sit here watching while the jews move into their promised land, kick out the arabs who WERE living there, and slaughter them in response for the palestinians fighting to take back their land.
so, justifiably, these countries hate israel. and they hate america by way of israel: we help israel, give them land, money and weapons. israel would not exist if it were not for the continued interference of america.
and not only does israel live on land that muslim brothers used to live on, they are continually starting wars and taking MORE land!
so, as far as genocide of israel in the ME goes: let them leave and find somewhere else to live. if they get up and leave, they will, for the most part, be allowed to leave. but if you think muslims are just gonna sit here losing land and benig killed and be HAPPY about it, you're simply being foolish. this situation will only end in bloodshed, as long as israel forces its way through the middle east.

as far as the countries we attempt to run: everybody knows saudi arabia's government is a puppet government on its knees to the US. the ayatollah of Iran used to be a puppet leader before he was overthrown by the people. saddam is in power because WE put him there. the new leader of afghanistan was appointed by the UN under the watchful eye of the US.
the US has its nose in EVERYTHING in the middle east - and the arabs don't like that.
which means, as far as i'm concerned, if we drop the middle east and move out, they will leave us alone.
like someone else said, most of the hijackers who attacked the US were saudi arabians. a few were iraqi. that is al qaida's biggest beef is the puppet government in saudi arabia and the sanctions in iraq, and then you go ahead and top it off with insulting their entire culture by putting jews in their holy land under our supervision.

Kraw
07-08-2002, 06:25 PM
this thread has gone entirely :topic:


What a nice civil reply, who are you and what have you done with wOng? Never mind, whatevr you did, leave him there. I fully expected some kind of "cornhole remark", for which he is justifiable infamous

Cosmo... what does this remark have to do with the discussion? who is wOng? Why must you continue to mispell his name? it is mrWr0ng, it has been pointed out to you in the past.

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