www.wnd.com

Thank you very much , Disney , MTV, Madona and other liberals and fems who become rich off the destruction of the young .

Now it's popular to torture, infect and abuse yourself . Cutting is beginning to be so polpular that some nurses want to give the kids new blades to prevent infection . HIV 'bug chasers want to be infected with aids . Splitting tonques is now the fad . And ' suspension ' hanging by hooks in skin is a real 'spiritual 'exsperiance .

And I thought body piercing was bad ! :confused:

And most call this new age freedom from all taboos and religious bonds . What a terrible price our kids pay for this anything goes world they live in . At least in Darfur they try not to get cut up or infected !

is this the article, pappy :o

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36599

is this the article, pappy :o

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36599


Yep thats it and thanks again Thumper .:nice: When i feel like it I will try to learn to paste again . I just can't consintrate right now on new things .

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Let's pick just one of these bizarre behaviors. How about … hanging by your skin from hooks? It's called "suspension." In literally any other context, this would be considered a gruesome torture. But to many people who frequent "suspension parties," it's a spiritual experience. Consider carefully what "Body Modification Ezine" (www.bmezine.com) – the Web's premiere site for body modification – says about "suspension":

What is suspension?

The act of suspension is hanging the human body from (or partially from) hooks pierced through the flesh in various places around the body.

Why would someone want to do a suspension?

There are many different reasons to suspend, from pure adrenaline or endorphin rush, to conquering one's fears, to trying to reach a new level of spiritual consciousness and everything in between. In general, people suspend to attain some sort of "experience."

Some people are seeking the opportunity to discover a deeper sense of themselves and to challenge pre-determined belief systems which may not be true. Some are seeking a rite of passage or a spiritual encounter to let go of the fear of not being whole or complete inside their body.

Others are looking for control over their body, or seek to prove to themselves that they are more than their bodies, or are not their bodies at all. Others simply seek to explore the unknown.

Many people believe that learning how one lives inside one's body and seeing how that body adapts to stress – and passes through it – allows one to surrender to life and explore new realms of possibility.[...]Here's one more experience I'll bet you didn't realize was so uplifting – getting AIDS.

Oh, you haven't heard about "bug-chasing"? Rolling Stone did a big expose on this new underground movement last February. Very simply, "bug-chasers" are people for whom getting infected with the AIDS virus is the ultimate sexual experience. You heard it right: The main focus of their lives is to actively seek out sexual encounters that will infect them with HIV.

Reporter Gregory A. Freeman explained the phenomenon, focusing initially on a "bug-chaser" named Carlos:

Carlos is part of an intricate underground world that has sprouted, driven almost completely by the Internet, in which men who want to be infected with HIV get together with those who are willing to infect them. The men who want the virus are called "bug chasers," and the men who freely give the virus to them are called "gift givers." While the rest of the world fights the AIDS epidemic and most people fear HIV infection, this subculture celebrates the virus and eroticizes it.

HIV-infected semen is treated like liquid gold. Carlos has been chasing the bug for more than a year in a topsy-turvy world in which every convention about HIV is turned upside down. The virus isn't horrible and fearsome, it's beautiful and sexy – and delivered in the way that is most likely to result in infection. In this world, the men with HIV are the most desired, and the bug chasers will do anything to get the virus – to "get knocked up," to be "bred" or "initiated into the brotherhood."

Yep thats it and thanks again Thumper .:nice: When i feel like it I will try to learn to paste again . I just can't consintrate right now on new things .having a mouse really helps :)

having a mouse really helps :)


I know but then I'd have to be confined to the pter screen . Sometimes I can't sit for long . My son dd just fine with this tv pasteing when he was here . but now he's back home thousand miles away .

This is what happens when kids are lonely and abadoned in a nation of greed . I wish we could do something but it i very hard to get involved . Even some of my grandkids sometimes lash out if peers are criticized . What can anyone do ?

Look at it this way Pappy, they are identifying themselves to be singled out for no breeding. They are marking their bodies in such a way that in 10 years when they are ready to settle down they won't be able to find any mates.

I know but then I'd have to be confined to the pter screen . Sometimes I can't sit for long . My son dd just fine with this tv pasteing when he was here . but now he's back home thousand miles away .

This is what happens when kids are lonely and abadoned in a nation of greed . I wish we could do something but it i very hard to get involved . Even some of my grandkids sometimes lash out if peers are criticized . What can anyone do ?http://smiliesftw.com/!/grouphug.gif

Young folk are naturally rebellious and engaging in self destructive and sinful behavior can be an extreme way of exerting their independence. If we can convince them that sin is in fact a tool to enslave us from the evil one, maybe there's hope :o

Um...methinks a preposition check is in order here, thump.

Um...methinks a preposition check is in order here, thump.

What do you mean ?

Could be I'm not reading something right....I should tape my eyelids open...

http://smiliesftw.com/!/grouphug.gif

Young folk are naturally rebellious and engaging in self destructive and sinful behavior can be an extreme way of exerting their independence. If we can convince them that sin is in fact a tool to enslave us from the evil one, maybe there's hope :o

We need a revival ! But it will be hard to find one kids can trust , because they are smarter than most of their elders , even if they are insane . Most of the elders have eaten so many street and prescription drugs they are burn out in the head . Searching for comfort and the next high . parading around naked at woodstock and listening to one too many Jimmy hendrix songs . Not that I don't appreciate good music ,but it's a fantasy and you can't take it but in small doses .

Now their offspring are payng for things that ain't free after all . Free sex ,free will , is free destruction .

Could be I'm not reading something right....I should tape my eyelids open...


I don't undersand this one either . But it's funny ,thanks .

Um...methinks a preposition check is in order here, thump.it seems grammatically correct :confused:

Is that "news' site authentic? It looks like "Weekly World News' crap....if these are the sites Pappy gets her 'facts' from, it explains a lot...

Is that "news' site authentic? It looks like "Weekly World News' crap....if these are the sites Pappy gets her 'facts' from, it explains a lot...why are you so critical of pappy all the time :o

I demand authentic proof of her accusations. It never surfaces. She won't provide any intelligent reasoning for her remarks.
However I do see why you identify with her...

I demand authentic proof of her accusations. It never surfaces. She won't provide any intelligent reasoning for her remarks.
However I do see why you identify with her...did you read the link?

Yes, I see that is written by their own staff...
Editor's note: This is the second and final part of a groundbreaking report on today's youth culture by WND Vice President and Managing Editor David Kupelian.
They give no sources for their info, and at the bottom of the article, they are promoting their own book.

They are using scare tactics to make sales to people who are easily fooled.
That is not a news article, it's an editorial. It's not fact, it's opinion.
Learn the difference.

I hate it when that happens :(

Beware the fear-mongers...they are most often just out to make a buck...

:) :p

I demand authentic proof of her accusations. It never surfaces. She won't provide any intelligent reasoning for her remarks.
However I do see why you identify with her...


I did a "Bug chasing" "Rolling Stones" google search and an article about bug-chasing at Rolling Stomes came up:

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5933610/bug_chasers/

Regardless of it's credibility, today's youngsters are in bad shape and irrepairably damaged.

I'm all for bug chasers. Let those sick freaks kill themselves off at GREAT EXPENSE to the health care system of course.

Yes, I see that is written by their own staff...
Editor's note: This is the second and final part of a groundbreaking report on today's youth culture by WND Vice President and Managing Editor David Kupelian.
They give no sources for their info, and at the bottom of the article, they are promoting their own book.

They are using scare tactics to make sales to people who are easily fooled.
That is not a news article, it's an editorial. It's not fact, it's opinion.
Learn the difference.


Opinion ,huh ? Why don't you get more informed instead of continuly making a fool out of yourself . Theres plenty of websites and medical proof of the dstructive ways kids are abusng themselves today .

www.braintalk.org


Above is neurology site and very good site for medical questions . Theres a cutters forum there also . And info for alot of brain and spinal conditions . It is very depressing to read some of the cutting stories . They have many health related discussion forums and it's free .

Pappy, quit trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. You are taking a few cases of bizarre incidents and trying to establish it as common behavior.

And Janus, I realize there are freaks out there, but then again, a couple of weird people don't make up the whole population.

Pappy, quit trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. You are taking a few cases of bizarre incidents and trying to establish it as common behavior.

And Janus, I realize there are freaks out there, but then again, a couple of weird people don't make up the whole population.


Alot of our kids are in trouble today, not just cutters in particular .

it's to bad they can't all come together for the betterment of themselves .

I don't know why you see teenagers as being in trouble.
I work with a lot of high school kids that are working to pay their college tuition, study, have great aspirations for their future, volunteer for charitable causes and hold great respect for their families. Sure, there are a few kids with deep problems, but most are simply great kids.
Society has a way of focusing on the worst in people. It paints an incorrect picture of how things really are.

And Janus, I realize there are freaks out there, but then again, a couple of weird people don't make up the whole population.

Then what was your statement about?

I demand authentic proof of her accusations. It never surfaces.

The article the man wrote is taking from today's new sources. He gave the subject and publication source. It takes no time at all to choice snip words out of a document and use google to see if he's making it up. He wasn't about that part.

Now, I have seen documents that were made up. ie Corporate Avenger posted something from a commie website. The names and organization cited in the story was nowhere on the internet, not even a telephone number. :hmm:

The article the man wrote is taking from today's new sources. He gave the subject and publication source. It takes no time at all to choice snip words out of a document and use google to see if he's making it up. He wasn't about that part.

Now, I have seen documents that were made up. ie Corporate Avenger posted something from a commie website. The names and organization cited in the story was nowhere on the internet, not even a telephone number. :hmm:

I was speaking in more general terms about the whole of her posts on this site.
People hear a story and get all riled up about it without even checking around to see if it holds any water.

I don't know why you see teenagers as being in trouble.
I work with a lot of high school kids that are working to pay their college tuition, study, have great aspirations for their future, volunteer for charitable causes and hold great respect for their families. Sure, there are a few kids with deep problems, but most are simply great kids.
Society has a way of focusing on the worst in people. It paints an incorrect picture of how things really are.


I guess the American Medical Ass. and the Centers for Desease is in on this conspiricy too .

And you being a teacher exsplain it all . you would have to go against your union that [imo] is run by queer lobbyist . Conflict of interest . I just feel sorry for the kids who are exsposed .

I guess the American Medical Ass. and the Centers for Desease is in on this conspiricy too .

And you being a teacher exsplain it all . you would have to go against your union that [imo] is run by queer lobbyist . Conflict of interest . I just feel sorry for the kids who are exsposed .

I am not a teacher. I do, however, interact with the teens I know, and don't just glean information about them from paranoid periodicals. If you want to know what the teens of today are thinking, how about you ask them?

www.wnd.com

Thank you very much , Disney , MTV, Madona and other liberals and fems who become rich off the destruction of the young .

Now it's popular to torture, infect and abuse yourself . Cutting is beginning to be so polpular that some nurses want to give the kids new blades to prevent infection . HIV 'bug chasers want to be infected with aids . Splitting tonques is now the fad . And ' suspension ' hanging by hooks in skin is a real 'spiritual 'exsperiance .

And I thought body piercing was bad ! :confused:

And most call this new age freedom from all taboos and religious bonds . What a terrible price our kids pay for this anything goes world they live in . At least in Darfur they try not to get cut up or infected !


You people are reaaaaalllly hysterical. It's not popular to do any of these things and WND is notorious for bending and blowing up the truth. There are always small youth subcultures that do strange things. They're in the minority. I'm not going to waste my time proving that, since it's more entertaining watching ninnies imagining that they're surrounded by hordes of satanic, drug-crazed youngin's engaging in EBM.

Today's kids need to start thinking about fighting wars because they'll be fighting the next major one very soon.

86Dude: And you think we're the ones with the problems? Not, say, the people pushing for war? Real smart.

I just had another few hours under the needle today. My leg is almost fully sleeved. Just some more shading and touch-ups to go. I also have 11mm plugs in each earlobe.

Don't like it? Fine, don't do it to yourself. But don't go calling me satanic, self-destructive, bug-chasing or drug-addicted, 'cause I ain't.

Funny how they don't mention that BME has a gallery devoted to Edge tattoos, or one about religious tats. Or patriotic and political ones.

Suspension makes you sick, but it doesn't harm anyone. A piercer I know did a suspension demonstration at the Big Day Out (an outdoor music festival). Funny to see how shocked and disgusted people were...even kids.

86Dude: And you think we're the ones with the problems? Not, say, the people pushing for war? Real smart.

I just had another few hours under the needle today. My leg is almost fully sleeved. Just some more shading and touch-ups to go. I also have 11mm plugs in each earlobe.

Don't like it? Fine, don't do it to yourself. But don't go calling me satanic, self-destructive, bug-chasing or drug-addicted, 'cause I ain't.

Funny how they don't mention that BME has a gallery devoted to Edge tattoos, or one about religious tats. Or patriotic and political ones.

Suspension makes you sick, but it doesn't harm anyone. A piercer I know did a suspension demonstration at the Big Day Out (an outdoor music festival). Funny to see how shocked and disgusted people were...even kids.

Hey man, whatever floats your boat. I wasn't even thinking about tats when I wrote that anyway. Pierciing is a bit stranger, and I guess I'm too old to understand the attraction so I'll just leave it at that. :)

I am not a teacher. I do, however, interact with the teens I know, and don't just glean information about them from paranoid periodicals. If you want to know what the teens of today are thinking, how about you ask them?


You mean ask my 7 teen grandkids ? I already do . But most of the time they volunteer info . One of the 17 yr. olds is already getting into trouble thanks to her liberal father who won't support her . He is like yall, and has turned against most of her family by telling her if it feels good do it, basically . She is hell bent on self destruction and her mom or anyone else can't stop it Two others are already showing signs of rebuking authority from peer pressure . So I know all about teens , plus I raised several teens including my kids .

Teens rebelling against authority?

Hoowoodathunkit....

You mean ask my 7 teen grandkids ? I already do . But most of the time they volunteer info . One of the 17 yr. olds is already getting into trouble thanks to her liberal father who won't support her . He is like yall, and has turned against most of her family by telling her if it feels good do it, basically . She is hell bent on self destruction and her mom or anyone else can't stop it Two others are already showing signs of rebuking authority from peer pressure . So I know all about teens , plus I raised several teens including my kids .

Woohoo, you know seven teenagers!
That makes you practically one yourself! :rolleyes:

Woohoo, you know seven teenagers!
That makes you practically one yourself! :rolleyes:
:werd:
Teenager's aren't going to tell you every thought that runs through their head, no matter how much you think they trust you.




Just for the record, the few kids that cut usually don't do it just because they can, to "rebel". It's usually either self-punishment or a release, of those that don't do it to get attention.

Aw, I had high hopes for this thread.

Cutting is not a fad, it is a symptom of a child, adolescent or adult in a very emotionally unhealthy state.

if you allow yourself to be brainwashed nature did its job of killing of the weak. I dont think pappy give teenagers enough credit. are they mindless robots. When i was a teenager you had better physicaly force me to do somthing. I couldn't be convinced. Hmm cutting my arm with a razor how fun can that be?

Cutting is not a fad
ya it is! omg its lyke a fashin thing & it costs no $$$!!!!!!!!!!!!! its so cool.






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ya it is! omg its lyke a fashin thing & it costs no $$$!!!!!!!!!!!!! its so cool.






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In some peoples mind young people are mindless robots waiting to be programmed. Your so ignorant you can be oersuaded to mutilate yourself and go gay

In some peoples mind young people are mindless robots waiting to be programmed. Your so ignorant you can be oersuaded to mutilate yourself and go gay
I was being sarcastic, and making a point. :rolleyes:

I was being sarcastic, and making a point. :rolleyes:

i nkow that:)

im poking fun at pappy

i nkow that:)

im poking fun at pappy
Oh, okay. I misunderstood, sorry. :p

ya it is! omg its lyke a fashin thing & it costs no $$$!!!!!!!!!!!!! its so cool.

The establishment just doesn't understand us kids today! Fight the power! :nice: