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Java_man
01-24-2006, 01:35 AM
This is the conclusion of Ken Sewell, the author of Red Star Rogue



One of the great secrets of the Cold War, hidden for decades, is revealed at last. Early in 1968 a nuclear-armed Soviet submarine sank in the waters off Hawaii, hundreds of miles closer to American shores than it should have been. Compelling evidence, assembled here for the first time, strongly suggests that the sub, K-129, sank while attempting to fire a nuclear missile, most likely at the naval base at Pearl Harbor.
We now know that the Soviets had lost track of the sub; it had become a rogue. While the Soviets searched in vain for the boat, U.S. intelligence was able to pinpoint the site of the disaster. The new Nixon administration launched a clandestine, half-billion-dollar project to recover the sunken K-129. Contrary to years of deliberately misleading reports, the recovery operation was a great success. With the recovery of the sub, it became clear that the rogue was attempting to mimic a Chinese submarine, almost certainly with the intention of provoking a war between the U.S. and China. This was a carefully planned operation that, had it succeeded, would have had devastating consequences.
During the successful recovery effort, the U.S. forged new relationships with the USSR and China. Could the information gleaned from the sunken sub have been a decisive factor shaping the new policies of détente between the Americans and the Soviets, and opening China to the West? And who in the USSR could have planned such a bold and potentially catastrophic operation? Red Star Rogue reads like something straight out of a Tom Clancy novel, but it is all true. Today our greatest fear is that terrorists may someday acquire a nuclear weapon and use it against us. In fact, they have already tried. "


Satellites and underwater hydrophones detected an explosion at sea from a Russian sub that fired an armed 1MT nuke at Hawaii. Unbeknown st to the crew, the missile had a hidden fail-safe that caused the warhead to explode (conventionally) inside the submarine, killing all and sinking the sub.

The operation was clandestine within the Russian government and they searched for the missing sub many miles from the mishap. In the mean time, the Americans dispatched naval vessels to the point of the explosion and found a highly radioactive oil slick.

This led to one of the largest and most secretive recovery efforts in history during the height of the cold war.

The author spent years researching declassified Russian and American documents and pieced together an amazing story about an event that changed history and was cloaked in secrecy for years.



http://www.redstarrogue.com/index.html

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/product-description/0743261127/ref=dp_proddesc_0/002-5960724-3583207?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=507846

ResidentRice
01-24-2006, 07:37 AM
Whoa... is this true true, or "Da Vinci Code" true?

It does read like a Clancy novel. More proof that the Cold War wasn't quite as cold as people think.

Red
01-24-2006, 09:35 AM
i think i saw this on the Hiostory Channel.

Java_man
01-24-2006, 04:43 PM
Whoa... is this true true, or "Da Vinci Code" true?

It does read like a Clancy novel. More proof that the Cold War wasn't quite as cold as people think.

true true

They tried to pop one off and it literally backfired due to a los alamos designed fail-safe fuse design that was given to the USSR by the US to prevent this very type of scenario.

we came *this* close to WWIII without the knowledge of the public at large ... and very likely this altered the foreign policy between the US the USSR and China

The book is a fascinating read on many levels ... the recovery mission using the glomar explorer was interesting enough to write a whole book on.

On a side note, my family and I visited Honolulu in early '69 while all this was going on ... obviously we were oblivious to what was happening

ResidentRice
01-24-2006, 04:46 PM
You need to find a link that has some good info on that for me dude. That's exactly the kind of stuff that I love to read about. Insane, how is this not more widely known about?

A Los Alamos designed fuse? Someone got a big "attaboy" over here for that one, I'll bet.

Java_man
01-24-2006, 05:25 PM
You need to find a link that has some good info on that for me dude. That's exactly the kind of stuff that I love to read about. Insane, how is this not more widely known about?

A Los Alamos designed fuse? Someone got a big "attaboy" over here for that one, I'll bet.

his conclusions are controversial, dont expect a full account of this from the govmt for many years ... if ever.

If you google k-129 submarine there are many links to the event.

CowPunk
01-24-2006, 07:22 PM
How'd the Japs infiltrate Los Alamos? :confused:

Java_man
01-24-2006, 07:50 PM
what ?

CowPunk
01-24-2006, 09:01 PM
How'd they get the technology to plan a nuke attack on Pearl Harbor? :hmm:

Java_man
01-24-2006, 09:17 PM
you need to read the op again ... no japs were involved ... this was 1968

CowPunk
01-24-2006, 09:21 PM
Jes' kiddin' :D

Java_man
01-24-2006, 09:28 PM
ya had me goin' ... thought you need stronger glasses :cool:

ResidentRice
01-24-2006, 11:27 PM
Dude, I thought he needed a stronger BRAIN.

RedLine99
01-27-2006, 11:56 PM
it's actually an interesting scenario..did a search and found a pretty cool review of the book.

i don't know how many times i've tried to figure out Nixon's excursion into China..but, yeah, i can believe that Clancy had to get the ideas for a few of his books from somewhere.

i do find it hard to believe though that the Soviets would put fail safe devices on their nukes without telling the guys with their finger on the trigger about it...then again..who realy know what a commie is thinking:p

Java_man
01-28-2006, 02:36 AM
it's actually an interesting scenario..did a search and found a pretty cool review of the book.

i don't know how many times i've tried to figure out Nixon's excursion into China..but, yeah, i can believe that Clancy had to get the ideas for a few of his books from somewhere.

i do find it hard to believe though that the Soviets would put fail safe devices on their nukes without telling the guys with their finger on the trigger about it...then again..who realy know what a commie is thinking:p

They could have known that if the crews knew about it, they could try to disable or bypass it, or it was a detail lost in the bureaucracy

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