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orangikan
01-12-2006, 03:34 PM
War makes strange bedfellows! Sunni insurgents are now fighting Al Qaeda Iraqis (who, I would guess, are Sunnis), because they are "foreigners", while fighting US, who are definitely foreigners, and Shiites, who are not foreigners, but worship at the wrong mosques! I wonder how the Iraqis tell each other apart?

BAGHDAD, Iraq, Jan. 11 - The story told by the two Iraqi guerrillas cut to the heart of the war that Iraqi and American officials now believe is raging inside the Iraqi insurgency.

In October, the two insurgents said in interviews, a group of local fighters from the Islamic Army gathered for an open-air meeting on a street corner in Taji, a city north of Baghdad.

Across from the Iraqis stood the men from Al Qaeda, mostly Arabs from outside Iraq. Some of them wore suicide belts. The men from the Islamic Army accused the Qaeda fighters of murdering their comrades.

"Al Qaeda killed two people from our group," said an Islamic Army fighter who uses the nom de guerre Abu Lil and who claimed that he attended the meeting. "They repeatedly kill our people."

The encounter ended angrily. A few days later, the insurgents said, Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia and the Islamic Army fought a bloody battle on the outskirts of town.

The battle, which the insurgents said was fought on Oct. 23, was one of several clashes between Al Qaeda and local Iraqi guerrilla groups that have broken out in recent months across the Sunni Triangle.

American and Iraqi officials believe that the conflicts present them with one of the biggest opportunities since the insurgency burst upon Iraq nearly three years ago. They have begun talking with local insurgents, hoping to enlist them to cooperate against Al Qaeda, said Western diplomats, Iraqi officials and an insurgent leader.

It is impossible to say just how far the split extends within the insurgency, which remains a lethal force with a shared goal of driving the Americans out of Iraq. Indeed, the best the Americans can hope for may be a grudging passivity from the Iraqi insurgents when the Americans zero in on Al Qaeda's forces.

But the split within the insurgency is coinciding with Sunni Arabs' new desire to participate in Iraq's political process, and a growing resentment of the militants. Iraqis are increasingly saying that they regard Al Qaeda as a foreign-led force, whose extreme religious goals and desires for sectarian war against Iraq's Shiite majority override Iraqi tribal and nationalist traditions.

According to an American and an Iraqi intelligence official, as well as Iraqi insurgents, clashes between Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia and Iraqi insurgent groups like the Islamic Army and Muhammad's Army have broken out in Ramadi, Husayba, Yusifiya, Dhuluiya and Karmah.

In town after town, Iraqis and Americans say, local Iraqi insurgents and tribal groups have begun trying to expel Al Qaeda's fighters, and, in some cases, kill them. It is unclear how deeply the split pervades Iraqi society. Iraqi leaders say that in some Iraqi cities, Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia and local insurgent groups continue to cooperate with one another.

American and Iraqi officials believe that Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia is largely made up of Iraqis, with its highest leader, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian. Even so, among Iraqis, the group is still perceived as a largely foreign force. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/12/international/middleeast/12insurgent.html?th=&adxnnl=1&emc=th&adxnnlx=1137097180-OWBf1iVuanI7h1K59aBs3A

BooRadley
01-12-2006, 03:37 PM
I've expected this to turn into a Beruit situation the whole time. There are several different extremist positions, all of whom hate each other. The only reason they've had a peaceful society was because everyone was more terrified of Saddam than they were hateful towards each other.

This is going to be a civil war.

Truthseeker
01-12-2006, 03:44 PM
This is going to be a civil war.

Isn't it already? the U.S. backed government is fighting an army of insurgents primarily made up of their countries citizens.

It's not unusual for the currently ruling faction of a civil war to have major foreign military support.

Sulla the Dictator
01-12-2006, 04:42 PM
So the fascists and nationalist religious fanatics have declared war on the internationalist religious fanatics? :p

Snouter
01-12-2006, 04:59 PM
God invented nukes for this kind of a situation. http://smiliesftw.com/!/terrorist88.gif

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