http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/30/nsa.leak/index.html

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Justice Department has opened an investigation into leaks to the media about the National Security Agency's classified domestic surveillance program.

They seem to care quite a bit about leaks when the leaks don't benefit them politically. They didn't seem too interested in getting to the bottom of the Plame leak, though.

Read today that they are going to go after the traitors who leaked this information.

Whoo-hooo.

I think the real traitors may actually be in the NSA. We have this cool little document called the constitution, and both sides of the poltical fence wipe their ass with it daily.

We have this cool little document called the constitution, and both sides of the poltical fence wipe their ass with it daily.

That's so true.

[They seem to care quite a bit about leaks when the leaks don't benefit them politically.
Do the facts escape you? The CIA asked for an investigation into the Plame leak and got it.

The NSA asked for an investigation into the "NSA" leak and now they got it.

In both cases the agencies are following SOP

Two things of note I seem to recall off the top of my head:
1) Novak said he was never warned by the CIA that he was "outing" Plame so he never considered it important at the time.
2) I believe I have read somewhere that the NY Times was asked (by the White House I think) not to reveal the secret NSA program...They KNEW it was secret and important.


Since the cat is now out of the bag, I welcome an investigation into the leak and I also welcome an investigation as to whether the program was constitutional.

Punish any and all quilty parties

[They didn't seem too interested in getting to the bottom of the Plame leak, though.

The two cases shouldn't even be compared because one is about the leaking of a secret program. A program designed to increase our national security in a time of war. The other is about the "outing" of a classified person who wasn't "covert" as has been the claim (hardly a case of national security) A person who abused the Agency she worked for and along with her husband used that Agency to fight a PARTISAN war in order to discredit the Bush administration.


The leftists are up in arms about the damaging of our national security interests with the outing of the press-***** Wilson's wife. (A self inflicted wound) Yet don't seem to give a damn about national security when it comes to rooting out terrorists.


The leftists are constitutional scholars when it comes to the 4th Ammendment but don't seem to know dick about article II. Of course the power of the executive branch with respect to un-warranted surveilance for foreighn intel was never questioned until Bush became President.

The key thing caddis seems to not note while listing his differences:

The Plame leak went against our highest laws, of revealing agents of the US govt. who werent supposed to be revealed. What does it matter if Novak knew? The fact is, the person who told him had to know. Novak, as much of a bastard as I think he is, if telling the truth did nothing wrong. However, its irrelevent in the matter that whoever leaked knew they were commiting treason of the highets degree.

The leak of knowledge regarding the secret surveilience of American Citizens without Warrents (aka ****ting on the constitution, high treason), although by all means should be investigated, exposed to the American public a very serious attack on our civil liberties.

If we have to give up our civil liberties over a 'war on terror', americans will never get them back. We may as well send the terrorists a white flag. If indeed the terrists 'hate our freedom', they are doing a damn good job of winning there battle, arent they?

The leftists are up in arms about the damaging of our national security interests with the outing of the press-***** Wilson's wife. (A self inflicted wound) Yet don't seem to give a damn about national security when it comes to rooting out terrorists.


The leftists are constitutional scholars when it comes to the 4th Ammendment but don't seem to know dick about article II. Of course the power of the executive branch with respect to un-warranted surveilance for foreighn intel was never questioned until Bush became President.


^ This is the correct motorcycle.

Why didn't the Bush Admin request an inquiry about who leaked the aluminum tubes info?

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/30/nsa.leak/index.html



They seem to care quite a bit about leaks when the leaks don't benefit them politically. They didn't seem too interested in getting to the bottom of the Plame leak, though.


Tyrants care little about their own crimes..

Why didn't the Bush Admin request an inquiry about who leaked the aluminum tubes info?

And who leaked the existence of the secret prisons in other countries?

Tyrants care little about their own crimes..

Thank God we don't have any of those.

All hail King Bush! He is all knowing and all powerful.

All hail King Bush! He is all knowing and all powerful.

Man, you're really afraid of him. He doesn't see it that way, why would you?

He doesn't see it that way, why would you?

No tyrant since Ghengis Khan has actually viewed himself as one.

No tyrant since Ghengis Khan has actually viewed himself as one.

Tyrants don't voluntarily step down from office after being elected twice. Thank God we don't have any of them around.

And who leaked the existence of the secret prisons in other countries?
That's what this thread is about. I was making the case that the administration is very selective in what it wants to investigate. In particular, I suggested that Bush didn't care when a similar intelligence leak benefited their cause (taking the country to war in Iraq under false pretenses).

That's what this thread is about. I was making the case that the administration is very selective in what it wants to investigate. In particular, I suggested that Bush didn't care when a similar intelligence leak benefited their cause (taking the country to war in Iraq under false pretenses).

I think you could make the case that most people are VERY selective in what they want investigated. The ones screaming when Valerie Plame was exposed are very quiet about the prison expose. I'd like to know who's leaking everything.

That's what this thread is about. I was making the case that the administration is very selective in what it wants to investigate. In particular, I suggested that Bush didn't care when a similar intelligence leak benefited their cause (taking the country to war in Iraq under false pretenses).


What intelligence LEAK are you discussing?

Oh, that's right. You are spewing yet more Lefty Moonbat Propaganda.

First Bush Lied.

And now the WMD intel was Leaked.

:rolleyes:

Tyrants don't voluntarily step down from office after being elected twice.

Has he yet? Besides, your thinking of Dictator. A tyrant is just someone who rules without ethical standard in a harsh personal gratifying manner.

Has he yet? Besides, your thinking of Dictator. A tyrant is just someone who rules without ethical standard in a harsh personal gratifying manner.

He will. What makes you think he won't? A tyrant does not voluntarily step aside.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/jul2004/elec-j13.shtml