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White_One
12-29-2005, 10:17 AM
Bush Says Iraq War Is Good for Israel

In sharp contrast to the growing consensus of Jerusalem's security and political establishment, President Bush argued this week that Israel's safety depends on democratization of the Arab world.

"If you're a supporter of Israel, I would strongly urge you to help other countries become democracies," President Bush declared Monday, in a major address defending American policy in Iraq and his wider vision for the region. "Israel's long-term survival depends upon the spread of democracy in the Middle East."

Rest, http://www.forward.com/articles/7020


Kraw, Please tell me the reason, why you locked this thread http://www.discussanything.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85384 ?

:eek7:

Could you unlock it, cause we would like to discuss about it ?

DngrMse
12-29-2005, 10:43 AM
Do me a wee favor, and quote the part where Bush says the Iraq war is good for Israel. Thanks.

fat mike
12-29-2005, 11:32 AM
Israel needs our presence over there,he's right..

CowPunk
12-29-2005, 11:54 AM
They've beat down the rest of the region's armies combined in several wars already. What do they need from us besides weapons?

fat mike
12-29-2005, 12:16 PM
They've beat down the rest of the region's armies combined in several wars already. What do they need from us besides weapons?

They're surrounded-the UN treats Israel like a red headed step child-The US has what it has today because it supports Israel-"He who blesses Israel will be blessed"-I suppose you regard that as superstition

White_One
12-29-2005, 12:17 PM
Do me a wee favor, and quote the part where Bush says the Iraq war is good for Israel. Thanks.

"If you're a supporter of Israel, I would strongly urge you to help other countries become democracies," President Bush declared Monday, in a major address defending American policy in Iraq and his wider vision for the region. "Israel's long-term survival depends upon the spread of democracy in the Middle East."

This is from the text. Doesn´t it tell you something ? :rolleyes:

Guido
12-29-2005, 12:27 PM
They're surrounded-the UN treats Israel like a red headed step child-The US has what it has today because it supports Israel-"He who blesses Israel will be blessed"-I suppose you regard that as superstition

I regard it as worse than superstition due to its destructive consequences.

CowPunk
12-29-2005, 12:31 PM
This is from the text. Doesn´t it tell you something ? :rolleyes:
Yeah, it tells me that Bush is trying to rally support from the Jewish community for his unpopular, badly-run war with thinly-veiled appeals to what he believes are their sympathies for Israel.

flaming_liberal
12-29-2005, 12:40 PM
Israel has succeeded because it had to. Enemies on all sides, and an ocean to their rear? Fight or drown, 'cause there's nowhere to run.

White_One
12-29-2005, 01:24 PM
TEL AVIV – In an exclusive interview with Israel’s daily Yediot Aharonot recently, National Security Adviser Dr. Condoleezza Rice said that the “security of Israel is the key to security of the world.” Rice added that she feels “a deep bond to Israel.

http://www.jewishpress.com/news_arti...p?article=2380

"EVERY TIME WE DO SOMETHING, YOU TELL ME AMERICANS WILL DO THIS AND WILL DO THAT. I WANT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING VERY CLEAR: DON'T WORRY ABOUT AMERICAN PRESSURE ON ISRAEL;

WE, THE JEWISH PEOPLE, CONTROL AMERICA. AND THE AMERICANS KNOW IT."

-- Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon
October 3, 2001
(IAP News)

http://www.rense.com/general45/sharonsinfamouscomment.htm

Does our government and the United Nations have knowledge of this? He replied: "The United Nations is nothing but a trap-door to the Red World's immense concentration camp. We pretty much control the U.N."

Harold Wallace Rosenthal

http://www.rense.com/general66/rosen.htm

"Israel controls the U.S. Senate. The Senate is subservient, much too much; we should be more concerned about U.S. interests rather than doing the bidding of Israel. The great majority of the Senate of the U.S. - somewhere around 80% - is completely in support of Israel; anything Israel wants; Israel gets. This has been demonstrated time and again, and this has made [foreign policy] difficult for our government."


J. William Fulbright told CBS Face the Nation on April 15, 1973

CowPunk
12-29-2005, 01:46 PM
"EVERY TIME WE DO SOMETHING, YOU TELL ME AMERICANS WILL DO THIS AND WILL DO THAT. I WANT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING VERY CLEAR: DON'T WORRY ABOUT AMERICAN PRESSURE ON ISRAEL;

WE, THE JEWISH PEOPLE, CONTROL AMERICA. AND THE AMERICANS KNOW IT."

-- Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon
October 3, 2001
(IAP News)

This is a well-known fabricated quote, the only source of which is the IAP or Independent Palestinian Press Association, which hardly had access to the Israeli Knesset to document that it was said during a session of Parliament.

Even if Sharon believed this was true, why would he ever say it in front of the press?

Janus
12-29-2005, 02:07 PM
This is a well-known fabricated quote, the only source of which is the IAP or Independent Palestinian Press Association, which hardly had access to the Israeli Knesset to document that it was said during a session of Parliament.

Even if Sharon believed this was true, why would he ever say it in front of the press?

Where does it says anything about the Knesset? :confused:

CowPunk
12-29-2005, 02:11 PM
The original story claimed he said it to a minister during a session of Parliament.

It was invented by a Palestinian propaganda house in an attempt to damage US/Israeli relations.

Janus
12-29-2005, 02:27 PM
Where is this original story since that link had nothing about the Knesset?

Janus
12-29-2005, 02:34 PM
I found a place where he said it at the Cabinet but according to a Israel site the Cabinet and Knesset are two different organizations and in seperate buildings.

Cowpunk, are you really an agent of the Mossad disInformation Service to throw people off-balance? :not: and :not:

coral100cor
12-29-2005, 02:37 PM
Where is this original story since that link had nothing about the Knesset?

http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=7&x_issue=57&x_article=766


There is no such thing as "original story" actually.
It's an "urban legend," a goast story wondering from one anti-israeli internet site to another.

Janus
12-29-2005, 02:49 PM
http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=7&x_issue=57&x_article=766


There is no such thing as "original story" actually.
It's an "urban legend," a goast story wondering from one anti-israeli internet site to another.

So you sent me to a Mossad "storefront" which said, "Nope, not true". The only way I will believe a site like that if they admit that they did do some of the things that others accused them of.

coral100cor
12-29-2005, 02:53 PM
So you sent me to a Mossad "storefront" which said, "Nope, not true". The only way I will believe a site like that if they admit that they did do some of the things that others accused them of.

This site provided names, dates and details. You can contradict them - please do.

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