By CHRISTY LEMIRE, AP Movie Critic 2 hours, 28 minutes ago
Dozens of adjectives have been applied to "Brokeback Mountain," words like "outstanding," "brave," "daring" and "unforgettable."

Here's another one: overrated.

Yes, it is a gorgeous film, filled with excellent performances from a beautifully chosen cast. It's big and weepy, dripping with love and loss, set over 20 years against a backdrop of wide-open Wyoming skies.

The behind-the-scenes team is top notch and highly decorated: Ang Lee is the director, working from a script by Larry McMurtry and Diana Ossana, based on a short story by Annie Proulx; Rodrigo Prieto serves as cinematographer. It will surely be an Oscar nominee many times over.

Yet all the hype seems to spring from the perceived shock factor of its subject matter. "Brokeback Mountain" is, in simplest terms, a gay Western: the story of two cowboys who form a deep physical and emotional bond during the summer of 1963, a time when it wasn't exactly OK to be out. (Not that being gay in Wyoming has gotten much easier.)
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Yeah my roommate's girlfriend keeps worrying that he's really gay... so she's talking about it to me and he runs in all excited saying he wants to see Brokeback Mountain and it looks soooo good.

Then there was that classic moment of "..." followed by o.O and then a subject change.

I don't imagine many heterosexual men will be running out to see it. :hmm:

I don't imagine many heterosexual men will be running out to see it.

That's because they're haters.

http://www.celebrities.pl/jake_gyllenhaal/jake8.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5203/heathledger026ew.jpg

Oh Donnie Darko you're so cute! *sighs*

That's because they're haters.
Where do you come up with this crap? First I'm a freak who's jealous of people with kids, now I'm a hater because I don't have an interest in seeing a movie about gay cowboys.

I don't have an interest in always picturing these two banging when ever I am trying to watch them in something else. I still can't help but think of them as less masculine when I see them on magazine covers in the grocery store! Pretty boys *gag*.

It's one thing to not want to "see a gay western" but to lump all gay men into "pretty boys" or being less masculine because they are gay is a serious problem. It's ideas like that that keep gay male sports stars in the closet...

Uh, scroll up TheAmber. Those two look like pretty boys in those pictures. I didn't LUMP anything, YOU did. Reactionary much? Granted, if you're gay and you look effeminate, then gag -- if you're not gay and look effeminate, then gag. Not my bag, ya dig?

Maybe I'm just incredibly biased because I think a guy who plucks his eyebrows, styles his hair, and knows how to dress is attractive. >.>
Not saying I think either are all that cute, really. I don't think they LOOK too effeminate in those pictures.

I can't wait to see this movie.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a303/TheLateGreat/BROKE.jpg

this movie is just wrong it SOOOO many ways :nonono:

I can't wait to see this movie.

Are you planning on posting a review?

this movie is just wrong it SOOOO many ways

Hot cowboys in a story of true yet forbidden love?

Damn, it doesn't get any better than that.

Are you planning on posting a review?

Sure, when I see it. It's not playing in Oklahoma yet (shocker!), but I'll be back home in Vegas next week.

Stephen Colbert recommended it on one of his shows the other day. But then again, he does watch the movies he reviews. :shrug: :p

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1695/brokebackcopy2tt.jpg

:p

Damnit, I meant to type Stephen Colbert does not watch the movies he reviews allegedly. He had a lot of funny commentary similar to that pic above.

Hot cowboys in a story of true yet forbidden love?

Damn, it doesn't get any better than that.

If they do a cheap remake with 2 hot cheerleaders then I'll be interested, in the mean time, I'm passing on this one

It can't possibly be any more gay than Alexander the Great was.
I'm still somewhat dumbfounded that Oliver Stone managed to take a movie about the greatest military leader in history and turned it into a gay love story. I don't think I'm mentally prepared for gay cowboys just yet.

I don't think I'm mentally prepared for gay cowboys just yet.

Why do you think it's so different from all the other westerns that've been made?

I'm still somewhat dumbfounded that Oliver Stone managed to take a movie about the greatest military leader in history and turned it into a gay love story.

Yes, it was bad on many levels but the "love" story was about a total of 5 minutes. So what?

Yeah, there was definitely not enough gay love in Alexander to make it worth wasting my 2 and a half hours.

Why do you think it's so different from all the other westerns that've been made?



Yes, it was bad on many levels but the "love" story was about a total of 5 minutes. So what?

I don't know why this western would be any different, except that in the old westerns I watched growing up John Wayne didn't kiss his male sidekick.
And the love story in Alexander was about 5 minutes, in fast forward maybe. They skip 20 years of conquest to show his battle with Darius, and the rest of the movie is relationship based from that point...at least, that was how I perceived it.
I'm not an anti-gay rights guy, just to be clear. I am just not really entertained by tales about the joys and despair of living a gay lifestyle.

December 13, 2005

LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- "Brokeback Mountain," the story of two cowboys grappling with their love for each other, was the top Golden Globe contender Tuesday, picking up seven nominations, including best dramatic picture.

It also was nominated for best director (Ang Lee), best actor in a drama (Heath Ledger) and best supporting actress in a drama (Michelle Williams) as well as best screenplay, best original score and best original song.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/12/13/golden.globes/index.html

^These awards are already underway? Damn, they sure crank 'em out, don't they?

Seriously I haven't seen most of the movies that brokeback is running up against, either. Or heard of a few of them.

Where are all the movies???

My friend saw brokeback mountain yesterday, she said there's barely any gay love and the film doesn't deserve either the controversy or accolades it's getting. Just her opinion, but I trust her for the most part.

The ghost of john Wayne is going to come back and give Ang Lee a thorough ass-kicking.

The ghost of john Wayne is going to come back and give Ang Lee a thorough ass-kicking.
You mean Marion? :p

My friend saw brokeback mountain yesterday, she said there's barely any gay love and the film doesn't deserve either the controversy or accolades it's getting. Just her opinion, but I trust her for the most part.

More hate speech disguised as "film criticism" and "third party anecdotes."

When will it finally end??

How is that hate speech? Please show me.

Ok, it's not really "hate" speech but it's "hostile and skeptical" speech that's for sure. Reviewing:

* "Well no NORMAL guy will see a movie about GAYS ew"
* "Well my friend....Ju....Sh..MARY says that the movie sucks and doesn't deserve anything."

You're wrong about so many things. You literally look for ways to be insulted.


Her name is Ashley, she was excited to see it because she likes gays and thought this would be a great movie about gay dudes. She said it wasn't about that as much as she expected or wanted it to be, and that over-all it was good, but not deserving of "5 million awards it's been nominated for" to quote her.

So STFU. :)

Her name is Ashley, she was excited to see it because she likes gays and thought this would be a great movie about gay dudes. She said it wasn't about that as much as she expected or wanted it to be, and that over-all it was good, but not deserving of "5 million awards it's been nominated for" to quote her.

The truth......or an elaborate lie? You didn't have to mention that right? You chose to say that instead of being supportive. You chose to be not supportive. That's what you chose. Why did you say that instead of "wow this movie looks FANTASTIC."

The truth......or an elaborate lie?
what?
You didn't have to mention that right? You chose to say that instead of being supportive. You chose to be not supportive. That's what you chose. Why did you say that instead of "wow this movie looks FANTASTIC."
Yes, because it looks to me like it's cheesy and I don't particularly care about cowboys. You're trying to make me into a someone with a problem with gays. I have no problem with gays, you want me to. YOU.

I said what I said instead of "wow this movie looks FANTASTIC" because I don't think it looks fantastic.

I said what I said instead of "wow this movie looks FANTASTIC" because I don't think it looks fantastic.

But you also weren't neutral even after admitting that you had never seen it.

^The hell?

But you also weren't neutral even after admitting that you had never seen it.

What's the dealio...
he isn't interested in seeing it, it doesn't interest him...

he's entitled to his opinion, just as you are.
He's not gay-bashing, he just doesn't want to watch a movie about gays. :shrug:

More hate speech disguised as "film criticism" and "third party anecdotes."

When will it finally end??

Yeah, because we all know film critisism doesn't come with any bias at all. :rolleyes:

But you also weren't neutral even after admitting that you had never seen it.
I don't know if you've noticed me ever posting on this site in the last four ****ing years, but a lot of my posts have been about movies I've never seen, and I give an opinion on just about ALL OF THEM.

I don't know what your problem is, but you want to be a victim so ****ing bad you find things in people's words that aren't there. There's plenty of movies about gay people and with gay themes that I think are great, so stop with this "you're a gay basher/hater/whatever." I'm not, you're someone that gets off on being the victim. Stop it.

but a lot of my posts have been about movies I've never seen, and I give an opinion on just about ALL OF THEM.

Ok, I bet there's a pattern too. Just saying that you're pretty down on certain things.

Yes, there is a partern of me saying that movies I think won't be very good won't be very good. I'm not a bigot, stop trying to be a victim.

igofast is lots of things, but homophobic is not one of them.

Yes, there is a partern of me saying that movies I think won't be very good won't be very good.

Yes, they're not very good because they're not about girls with big boobs but instead are about "bad" kinds of things like gays?

Oh **** off. None of my favorite films, which I have mentioned MANY times have anything to do with girls with big boobs. Do you really need me to make a list of great films with gay characters and themes? I easily could. Either you're a very convincing gimmick poster or you have serious issues boardering on paranoia that everyone is out to victimize you.

Do you really need me to make a list of great films with gay characters and themes?

Ok. Yes do it.

Ok. Yes do it.
:rolleyes:

My Own Private Idaho
American Beauty
Y Tu Mama Tambien
L.I.E.
Six Feet Under (TV show, seasons 1 & 2 are great)
All About My mother
Bad Education
My Summer of Love
Secret Things
Boys Don't Cry
Before Night Falls
But I'm a Cheerleader

Yes, there is a partern of me saying that movies I think won't be very good won't be very good.

THANK YOU!

I hate when people act like you have to sit through every last minute of a movie to judge it.

And Jay, every time you level an irrational criticism against someone, it takes bite out of your rational ones and--for some people--drives them even further into their beliefs that ARE reprehensible (igo's are not; frankly whatever criticism it is you're trying to level here is bizarre and way outta-nowhere).

I hate when people act like you have to sit through every last minute of a movie to judge it.


Well,I think that's the only way one can judge a movie [or any other work of art].

But igofast didn't say it was awful,he said he wasn't interested in seeing it,period.


Maybe you haven't read many of his posts Jay GW,but igofast is not homophobic.

Myself,I'm not the biggest Ang Lee fan,I may see the film,I may not,but it's not high on my list either,not because of the subject matter but because I'm not a big fan of the director or any of the cast.

If it was directed by Martin Scorsese I'd see it because I see anything he directs or anything Jack Nicholson acts in.


I love Peter Jackson's Meet The Feebles,but I've never seen any of the Lord Of The Rings films because that kind of film does not appeal to me [the same for any Harry Potter film].

I will see King Kong because I've liked the original since I was a child [and because I've got a gut feelling King Kong is prefect for Jackson's talents]

Thank god you put "But I'm a Cheerleader" on that. I heart it. Hard.

Yeah I haven't been here this long but igo doesn't strike me as homophobic by any means. I even read someone else's comments on here earlier as more homophobic than they meant, which I discovered after I got a little pissy. ^^;

leave to hollywood to gay up the western genre
next up start gaying up war movies

More hate speech disguised as "film criticism" and "third party anecdotes."

When will it finally end??any dislike or criticism of the movie not because of gaiety but simply did not likebecause it was a badly made movie it is hate speech:confused: seems like a pretty narrow definition unless you say nice things about this movie you are a homophobe

Hey Jay, you going to man up and say you were wrong about me or what? :)

Jay GW needs to get some damned self esteem. He sounds like a whiney b****.

Well,I heard on the news the other night that the jerks that make up the relgious right-wing [Jerry Falwell,James Dobson,Pat Robertson,Family Reserach Council etc.] is calling for a boycott of this film.

That means I have to see the film ,because anything the extremists of the religous right call to be boycotted I patronize.

Well,I heard on the news the other night that the jerks that make up the relgious right-wing [Jerry Falwell,James Dobson,Pat Robertson,Family Reserach Council etc.] is calling for a boycott of this film.

I don't think a RR-organized boycott will be too effective. And by that I mean no one who would listen to Jerry, James, or Pat would have seeing Brokeback on their list of things-to-do anyway. Their boycott of Ford, on the other hand, for advertising in gay magazines, might have some effect.

Actaully,I think the boycott calls might help the fim's box office.

Why do you think it's so different from all the other westerns that've been made?

Watch Queer Ass Folk on pay cable and watch a guy take it up the bum and then ask your question.:P

Hey Jay, come back to this thread and tell me I hate gays!

Hey Jay, come back to this thread and tell me I hate gays!

I know right!!!

Igofast loves gay dudes!!! You would have a hard time proving that he doesn't like two men making sweaty love to each other. He just doesn't like it when the Marlboro man is doing it!!!

Hey Jay, you going to man up and say you were wrong about me or what?

Well you did list some movies about gay themes. You don't have to like every single one but to NEVER like them is pretty obvious.

Alright, you said I don't like movies about gays and implied I have a problem with gays in general. Clearly you were wrong.

Alright, you said I don't like movies about gays and implied I have a problem with gays in general. Clearly you were wrong.

All you did was list movies. You seem to be very defensive about being called homophobic.

No, I listed a bunch of movies that I have seen and thought were very good films. Here comes my first warning in a long time. You're an ass.

And yes, I am defensive about being called homophobic because I'm not and am saddened by people that are. I have family members and friends that are gay and I've seen first hand the pain that discrimination against them causes, so I do take offense when someone accuses me of being homophobic.

No, I listed a bunch of movies that I have seen and thought were very good films. Here comes my first warning in a long time. You're an ass.

So the problem with Brokeback Mountain has nothing to do with the subject material?

For ****'s sake. I said there wouldn't be a lot of heterosexual men going to see the film because it's the truth. Most heterosexual men that have an interest in cowboys have no interest in gays, I'm not being homophobic, that's just a fact.

Personally I have no interest in it because it looks cheesy and I don't particularly like movies about cowboys.

All you did was list movies. You seem to be very defensive about being called homophobic.

That's because he's not, Jay! Quit alienating people! Sh!t!

So the problem with Brokeback Mountain has nothing to do with the subject material?

I don't want to watch a lesbian movie with chicks gettin' it on every which way. That doesn't make me homophobic; the subject matter is just boring as crap to me (and kinda gross to watch). There's nothing wrong with that. Damn.

I said there wouldn't be a lot of heterosexual men going to see the film because it's the truth.

They won't get to see the movie anyway because it's only being released to 5 theaters so they can get the awards. It's going to dvd after that so no need to panic the public and cause riots about it.

You must have noticed by now that it's been talked about for weeks but theaters aren't showing it.

The movie is a clever gay rights campaign if you've got several million dollars to spare.

Leave it to the gays to make one little movie about cowboys and bring on the four horsemen of the apocalypse.

They won't get to see the movie anyway because it's only being released to 5 theaters so they can get the awards. It's going to dvd after that so no need to panic the public and cause riots about it.
What the hell are you talking about. I'm done talking with you, you're crazy.

What the hell are you talking about. I'm done talking with you, you're crazy.

Igofast just stop talking and read the facts:

Focus Features' cowboy love story lassoed $2.5 million from 69 locations, averaging a potent $36,354 per site, raising the total to $3.5 million in 10 days.

Last weekend, Brokeback Mountain trumpeted a $109,485 average at five bustling theaters in Los Angeles, New York City and San Francisco. It's natural for a picture's average to drop significantly as it adds smaller markets.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=1968&p=.htm

They're only releasing the film in about 300 theaters total. Wow that's about a whole 10 percent of American theaters. You don't make the money back after paying two superstars by releasing it to 300 theaters.

What am I spouting off? I know it's a limited release, what the hell does that have to do with anything?

I know it's a limited release, what the hell does that have to do with anything?

How do you make the money back if you only release it to a few theaters? It's not that kind of movie at all. I'm just saying that this is a gay rights campaign---what would you call it? A "wise investment"? It's a wise investment when a bunch of nobodies make the Blair Witch Project. Heath Ledger, Ang Lee and Gyllenhaal are not nobodies.

I don't think it's a gay rights campaign, whether it makes money or not. It's a risky investment, something studios do all the time. Even if it is a campaign, what the hell is your point? You accuse me of being homophobic, then you accuse me of spouting nonsense when I point out that it is not a movie that a large number of heterosexual men will be interested in. You're all over the place without ever really making a point.

I'm going to have to start quoting your posts cuz you keep editing them after I respond. :)

I don't think this was that big a risk. It cost under $20 million to make and it has a built in gay audience. Just like there are heterosexual men that won't see because of it's storyline there are gay men that will see it simply because it deals with gay issues. If this movie didn't make a dime in the theatres it will recoup it's costs in DVD sales and cable licensing alone.

I think the studio took a bigger risk when they backed Gyllenhaal in Bubble Boy.

If it only cost $20 million to make including salaries, then you're right, it's almost no risk at all.

They won't get to see the movie anyway because it's only being released to 5 theaters so they can get the awards. It's going to dvd after that so no need to panic the public and cause riots about it.

You must have noticed by now that it's been talked about for weeks but theaters aren't showing it.



I saw a news report [NBC I think] that said the film is going into wide release ina few weeks.

It also said that the film is making more money per screen/showing than even King Knog.

LOL I'd just like to point out that ever since igo proved that he was just being opinionated and not a biggot, Jay went off onto like 30 tangents. That's what people do in debates when they're proven wrong and are backed into a corner lol >.>

I don't imagine many heterosexual men will be running out to see it. :hmm:
I just might. I think the concept is pretty funny actually: Cowpoy buttpirates! YEE HAW!!!!:D

I plan to take Potyondi on a date to see this movie.

I hope it has some good, steamy scenes. Pretty boys getting hot and bothered with each other is even better than strawberry cheesecake, but I might have to cover Potyondi's eyes because he's a little "sensitive."

Damnit, how come I havent heard of this movie!?

so, just wondering, does anyone actually want to talk about the movie, or are we just going to keep bitching about who hates gay people and who doesn't?

because really, I'm up for whatever, you know, just want to guage where everyone is right now;)

Saw it today. Awesome.

Saw it today. Awesome.
But it has teh gays!

:|

But it has teh gays!

:|

There's only one sex scene, and it's like 4 seconds long and involves no nudity. :hmm:

The story is just great.

I know, that's what my friend told me, which I posted here, which made Jay say I hated gays. :hmm:

There's only one sex scene, and it's like 4 seconds long and involves no nudity. :hmm:

The story is just great.

I heard you could see one of the actors' no-no spots for a short second.

I heard you could see one of the actors' no-no spots for a short second.

Heath Ledger's and a body-double's for Jake, as they cliff-jump nude into a lake.

I've noticed that some Very Renowned Religious Representatives have been mysteriously quiet:confused: during all this controversy over "BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN"..

JERRY FALWELL

DONALD WILDMON

PAT ROBERTSON

You'd kinda think that WILDMON especially would be QUITE vocal about HIS misgivings towards this "smash hit film" (After all it was HE that got CBS's "The NEW Adventures Of MIGHTY MOUSE" kicked off the air back in the 1980's)

So wot's up with THAT?

I agree with igofast: I am a heterosexual man and I have ZERO interest in seeing this.

Now if this was about two gay cowgirls, then hell, I'm there!

I just feel sorry for the horses . Hope PETA keeps an eye on them .

I agree with igofast: I am a heterosexual man and I have ZERO interest in seeing this.



I'm a hertosexual man and I had no interest in see this,now I'm going to see it because of the controversy [and because it looks like an Oscar contender].

I saw a trailer for it the other night,it looks like an old fashioned type of tear-jerker,like say,Million Dollar Baby.

Saw this with my (hetero) boyfriend Saturday night, and was stunned. Not only is it beautiful, and full of some truly great acting and directing and sets (they managed to do "western town" without it coming off as "saloon, swinging doors, showgirls, guys getting their hats shot off, and Billy the Kid"), but I nearly cried at the end. The love story is heartbreakingly realistic; it's a movie more about the disappointment of lost love and frustratingly huge distances between people than about gay rights or anything of the sort.

When the credits rolled, my boy Chris observed "there was no plot," and was semi-correct. This is a very existentialist film about the desire of the moment and about what really pleases you, what your real wants are, and about how the institutions of the mind and the culture prevent us from reaching for our true selves, no matter how much happier it would make us than our actual lives. Things weren't planned, they just happened, and happened, and happened, until in the end something happens that makes them end. Just like in real life.

It was also pretty hot seeing two guys make out. Anyone who asks the question "Why do guys think lesbians are so hot, but girls don't actively embrace gay porn?" should be answered with this movie. As a sexually open (and usually heterosexual) female, I went from ehhh to hubba-hubba about gay men during the course of this film. No, seriously. :nice:

I should mention, I'm a teenage girl, and everyone knows that, in America, the markets for gay men and the markets for teenage girls are almost totally interchangeable. :jes:

Saw this with my (hetero) boyfriend Saturday night, and was stunned. Not only is it beautiful, and full of some truly great acting and directing and sets (they managed to do "western town" without it coming off as "saloon, swinging doors, showgirls, guys getting their hats shot off, and Billy the Kid"), but I nearly cried at the end. The love story is heartbreakingly realistic; it's a movie more about the disappointment of lost love and frustratingly huge distances between people than about gay rights or anything of the sort.

When the credits rolled, my boy Chris observed "there was no plot," and was semi-correct. This is a very existentialist film about the desire of the moment and about what really pleases you, what your real wants are, and about how the institutions of the mind and the culture prevent us from reaching for our true selves, no matter how much happier it would make us than our actual lives. Things weren't planned, they just happened, and happened, and happened, until in the end something happens that makes them end. Just like in real life.

It was also pretty hot seeing two guys make out. Anyone who asks the question "Why do guys think lesbians are so hot, but girls don't actively embrace gay porn?" should be answered with this movie. As a sexually open (and usually heterosexual) female, I went from ehhh to hubba-hubba about gay men during the course of this film. No, seriously. :nice:


No wonder men have such a hard time findng a woman worth marrying . Slim pickins .

I should mention, I'm a teenage girl, and everyone knows that, in America, the markets for gay men and the markets for teenage girls are almost totally interchangeable. :jes:

Do you have parents ? I hope you wise up before dating .

I agree with igofast: I am a heterosexual man and I have ZERO interest in seeing this.

Now if this was about two gay cowgirls, then hell, I'm there!

In HOT leather chaps, no less!

http://dts.ystoretools.com/1494/images/100x500/leather-chaps-women.jpghttp://www.gagreport.com/Funny_Pictures/sexy%20pics%204%20album/thumbnails/sexy_chaps_jpg_jpg.jpg

No wonder men have such a hard time findng a woman worth marrying . Slim pickins .
What the hell are you talking about?

Saw this with my (hetero) boyfriend Saturday night, and was stunned. Not only is it beautiful, and full of some truly great acting and directing and sets (they managed to do "western town" without it coming off as "saloon, swinging doors, showgirls, guys getting their hats shot off, and Billy the Kid"), but I nearly cried at the end. The love story is heartbreakingly realistic; it's a movie more about the disappointment of lost love and frustratingly huge distances between people than about gay rights or anything of the sort.

When the credits rolled, my boy Chris observed "there was no plot," and was semi-correct. This is a very existentialist film about the desire of the moment and about what really pleases you, what your real wants are, and about how the institutions of the mind and the culture prevent us from reaching for our true selves, no matter how much happier it would make us than our actual lives. Things weren't planned, they just happened, and happened, and happened, until in the end something happens that makes them end. Just like in real life.

:nice: Great little write-up.

No wonder men have such a hard time findng a woman worth marrying . Slim pickins .

Wow, what a bitch!

Wow, what a bitch!


Wow, bend over and take it like a toilet ! :nonono:

Wow, bend over and take it like a toilet ! :nonono:

Nah, not my thing.

Do you have parents ? I hope you wise up before dating .

Yeesh, of course I have parents, and I've been in a fun, healthy, mature realtionship for more than a year now.

Since I don't want to make any asumptions about you, as you clearly have about me, I must ask, what sorts of sinister things are you implying? Does it bother you that I imply that the interests of gay men and teen girls correlate? I retract my statement on the grounds that it generalizes minorities.

Thanks, Lategreat, I appreciate the positive feedback. I'm not looking to troll or promote christianity or anything like that, I'm just an interested poster here like everyone else who really enjoyed Brokeback Mountain.

Speaking of which, BBM being the actual subject of this board, I should at least mention something about it: on the IMDB boards concerning Brokeback, there was a post by a guy who took his three young children to see it thinking it was a pleasant family-oriented western! He was unpleasantly suprised by the sex scene and wondered how anyone could support "filth" like this that was marketed to children?

This was all despite the obvious fact that the movie is rated R for sexuality, adult themes, language, violence, and some distrubing images. Some people are very strange.

Speaking of which, BBM being the actual subject of this board, I should at least mention something about it: on the IMDB boards concerning Brokeback, there was a post by a guy who took his three young children to see it thinking it was a pleasant family-oriented western! He was unpleasantly suprised by the sex scene and wondered how anyone could support "filth" like this that was marketed to children?

This was all despite the obvious fact that the movie is rated R for sexuality, adult themes, language, violence, and some distrubing images. Some people are very strange.

Apparently this man's home is located directly under this:

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The controversy never ends,a multiplex in Salt Lake City was gong to show Brokeback Mountain has now pulled it out [so to speak] of their cinema,no word if they will replace with it with Memoirs Of A Gesha [about a girl whose father sells her into prostitution] or King Kong [which could be interpeted as being about a girl with beastial feelings].

Also several gay groups are upset with Today Show critic Gene Shalit calling the lead character a sexual predator [http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/1/6/191738/5641],while I don't agree with Shalit [though it could be argued that anyone -male or female- who initiates any sexual relationship could indeed be called a sexual predator in a very loose sense of the term] he does have the same right to freedom of speech as anyone else does and that a critic is only a commentator ,nothing more,nothing less.

Apparently this man's home is located directly under this:



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Going to take my friend Brian to see Bareback Mountin' in an attempt to finally out him. :D

It's one thing to not want to "see a gay western" but to lump all gay men into "pretty boys" or being less masculine because they are gay is a serious problem. It's ideas like that that keep gay male sports stars in the closet...


Are you queer ?

Man that movie sucked, talk about boring.

Man that movie sucked, talk about boring.

What movie?

Um, I'm pretty sure this thread is about brokeback mountain, so that one.

No wonder men have such a hard time findng a woman worth marrying . Slim pickins .

Yeah, with people like you still around. :not:

Um, I'm pretty sure this thread is about brokeback mountain, so that one.

Be careful the name alone has magical powers.

Man that movie sucked, talk about boring.

Why did you decide to see it?

I really enjoyed that movie. the audience was actually filled with middle aged hetero couples... a few exceptions.

It was a love story, plain and simple. I don't recommend it for the "macho-man" types who think they would vomit at the thought of two men having sex...

Why did you decide to see it?
A girl I was on a date with wanted to see it. She paid. :nice:

A girl I was on a date with wanted to see it. She paid. :nice:

It was very slow for sure. Maybe being a gay, knowing it's a gay movie makes it go by somewhat more quickly because your mind naturally fills in the slow parts, drawing little inferences between what's on the screen and your life. :shrug:

I don't recommend it for the "macho-man" types who think they would vomit at the thought of two men having sex...

Why? The gay sex scenes were so short and edited they'd only need to blink at their popcorn a few seconds to miss it. The sex with wife and tits scene got more treatment, which ticked me off.

It was very slow for sure. Maybe being a gay, knowing it's a gay movie makes it go by somewhat more quickly because your mind naturally fills in the slow parts, drawing little inferences between what's on the screen and your life. :shrug:
My disliking it had nothing to do with the fact that the characters were gay, or even that it was so slow. A successful film (well, drama such as this anyway) is one where an audience can associate with the characters and the emotions they're going through. Since the ideas of struggle, love, acceptance, etc are universal, so I SHOULD have been able to relate. But I didn't, so was completely bored. The slow pace wouldn't have been a problem had I felt connected to the story in any way.

I think the point of the film was that these two people were so repressed that they couldn't even talk to each other about it [and that being in the closet hurts everybody directly or indirectly involved with them].

They were two people who were forced to live in a world where they had to keep themselves repressed because they didn't have the education to get out of that world,I think that lack of education also kept them from totally accepting themselves.

While I don't share the sexual orentationof the two characters ,I do know what it's like to come from a unenlightened/limited society and wanted to break free from of that society,at the same it also was [in some ways still is] painfull because that society was my roots.

Add sexual orentation into that mix and I would have to imagine it would be worse.

I think it's a four-star film [though not one my ten best of the year],but I do think it's the best directed film of the year [and I'm not a big Ang Lee fan].

that movie gives teh ghey

That's because they're haters.

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It was pretty good.

I can relate to the torment of loving someone but the relationship is so hard on you that you wish you could stop loving them but can't. There's a lot more to the movie than cowboy butseqs. The movie to me was about how love can be a painful experience, and no, I'm not reffering to rectal pain. It's proof that that saying, "It's better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all" isn't always true. Sometimes love is a trap that destroys happiness and in some cases, we're better off without it.

While I thought it was really good, I don't think it deserved all the awards it got. Yeah a few I can understand, but not that damn many. It pisses me off that people threw a fit saying it didn't get the best film oscar because of homophobia. Crash beat it because Crash was simply a better movie.

Excellent review Betty.:nice:

o.O This thread is still alive after I came back. I hope there was lots of bickering in the middle.

I just bought this on DVD for my future roommate so I'll finally see it sometime next week. They gave us the "exclusive table book" free. Cute.

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