While channel surfing the television, I have heard some of 50 Cent's "music," because it seems like his videos are constantly played for some reason that I cannot understand. I can't bear listening to even one of his "raps," and I don't understand why anyone would actually spend their money on this.

I do enjoy some rap music -- in small doses, by a small number of rappers such as Public Enemy, Eric B & Rakim and Schooly D. But even by rap standards, it seems to me that 50 Cent has absolutely zero to offer.

Ignoring his "lyrics," a typical 50 Cent rap has no discernable beat, no hooks, no nothing, just a droning, boring electronic buzz that literally anyone could produce with the proper equipment.

Then you add in the lyrics, which are just boring, disgusting, mindless ranting about nothing, unless you consider abusing women and shooting people "something." He can't even rap well because he has no articulation or verbal style to speak of.

In short, I can't see 50 Cent as anything other that a complete zero, even if you put him in the category of mindless teeny booper pop music with Britney Spears and a bunch of other shallow, voiceless untalented bubblegum caricatures.

So what is it that compels people to go out and spend their money on 50 Cent CDs?

I can't imagine anyone, even his fans, listening to any of his raps more than once, which is a lot more than I can muster.

Because some people have no taste and are complete and utter idiots.

or, in other words:

Sturgeon's Law: 90% of everything is crap

Maybe they are masochists.

So what is it that compels people to go out and spend their money on 50 Cent CDs?

Brainwashing, peer pressure, MTV propaganda, the fashion industry, etc.

What is similarly troubling is Green Day. They are totally uncool and they totally suck, yet MTV constantly promotes them and naive kids think they are cool.

At least Green Day can occasionally find a melody or a couple of words that rhyme. That's more than be said for 50 cent.

What is similarly troubling is Green Day. They are totally uncool and they totally suck, yet MTV constantly promotes them and naive kids think they are cool.

Oh my.

Well I know that Xach is a fan of Green Day and he is one of the most non-naive people I know.

Oh and I love how you always seem to voice your opinions as if it’s a undeniable fact.

At least Green Day can occasionally find a melody or a couple of words that rhyme. That's more than be said for 50 cent.

I'll agree with this.

What little I've heard off the "American Idiot" album is pretty good.

Oh and I love how you always seem to voice your opinions as if it’s a undeniable fact.

Amazing what self confidence can do for a person, huh!?

Because some people have no taste and are complete and utter idiots.




But we're not talking about right-wing songs by Toby Keith.

But we're not talking about right-wing songs by Toby Keith.

To be fair, he does have talent, I'm not a big fan, but he did share a stage with people like Willie Nelson, Merle Haggard and Jerry Lee Lewis.

What is similarly troubling is Green Day. They are totally uncool and they totally suck, yet MTV constantly promotes them and naive kids think they are cool.

I agree, but they do have like 2 ok/decent songs. They still can't play though.:mad:

But we're not talking about right-wing songs by Toby Keith.
He's a democrat. :)

Oh it was so good when 50 cent (or 37.5p as we call him in England) 'played' at Reading Rock Festival (Reading is my home town). He lasted all of 20 mins! :nice:

http://www.virtualfestivals.com/festivals/article.cfm?articleid=1346

Mark

He's a democrat. :)

Conservatives can be Democrats.

You called him right wing. Conservatives and Right Wingers aren't the same.

Basically I was just trying to bring attention to the fact that you were posting a pointless jab, which in my mind constitutes baiting. No one had mentioned anything about Toby Keith or politics. You're doing the same thing that some on the other side of the spectrum do, they politicize everything, and usually in a way that belittles the opposing beliefs.

You called him right wing. Conservatives and Right Wingers aren't the same.


They can be,I guess it's how you define the terms.


Basically I was just trying to bring attention to the fact that you were posting a pointless jab, which in my mind constitutes baiting.


It was just a dumb joke,nothing more,nothing less.

Aaaanyway, back to fiddy cent, yes he's a zero, and perhaps the great unwashed see him as one of them, cos lets face it most people are as talented as 50, so they see him as an equal, yet he's made it, so they think they stand a chance too. The fools. :P

rap is a very poor quality music to begin with its just brag music

a lot of rap music is heart felt and portrays a life style many people feel the need to shrug off. I respect a lot of it. I don't listen to it much, but I don't mind it either. Not my favorite style of music by far, but it can be pretty emotional and I like that.

With that being said, I hate almost all 50 cents music. There are far better artists.

You're talking about taking a stand kinda rap, Ema. That stuff went out with Public Enemy. Back then, rap was meant to bring awareness to the crap going on in the black community. It was meant to inspire blacks. This new stuff, it's a disgrace. I don't dig any of that hippy crap, but rap has lost it's poetic effects. I always thought it was going to be an extension of the blues, with legendary poets, it was to represent it's era and now it's just, well, crap.

There's still great "rap" out there although it's generally differentiated from the gangsta **** by calling it hip-hop.

Brainwashing, peer pressure, MTV propaganda, the fashion industry, etc.

What is similarly troubling is Green Day. They are totally uncool and they totally suck, yet MTV constantly promotes them and naive kids think they are cool.

great points snouter. couldnt agree more. i think both 50 and green day possess musical talent, but the more they bury it, the more money they make...

Exactly what musical talent does 50 Cent possess? He is barely coherent. Does he produce his own songs? Does he write his own music?

He's a rap product - not a musical artist.

While channel surfing the television, I have heard some of 50 Cent's "music," because it seems like his videos are constantly played for some reason that I cannot understand. I can't bear listening to even one of his "raps," and I don't understand why anyone would actually spend their money on this.

I do enjoy some rap music -- in small doses, by a small number of rappers such as Public Enemy, Eric B & Rakim and Schooly D. But even by rap standards, it seems to me that 50 Cent has absolutely zero to offer.

Ignoring his "lyrics," a typical 50 Cent rap has no discernable beat, no hooks, no nothing, just a droning, boring electronic buzz that literally anyone could produce with the proper equipment.

Then you add in the lyrics, which are just boring, disgusting, mindless ranting about nothing, unless you consider abusing women and shooting people "something." He can't even rap well because he has no articulation or verbal style to speak of.

In short, I can't see 50 Cent as anything other that a complete zero, even if you put him in the category of mindless teeny booper pop music with Britney Spears and a bunch of other shallow, voiceless untalented bubblegum caricatures.

So what is it that compels people to go out and spend their money on 50 Cent CDs?

I can't imagine anyone, even his fans, listening to any of his raps more than once, which is a lot more than I can muster.


different strokes for different folks.

everyone is different and obviously 50 cent isn;'t for you. i don't like him either (though in the club wasn'ta bad song) but there are alot of people who do

I like this song. :)

[Kids]
I know I can (I know I can)
Be what I wanna be (be what I wanna be)
If I work hard at it (If I work hard at it)
I'll be where I wanna be (I'll be where I wanna be)

[Nas]
Be, B-Boys and girls, listen up
You can be anything in the world, in God we trust
An architect, doctor, maybe an actress
But nothing comes easy it takes much practice
Like, I met a woman who's becoming a star
She was very beautiful, leaving people in awe
Singing songs, Lina Horn, but the younger version
Hung with the wrong person
Got her strung on that
Heroin, cocaine, sniffin up drugs all in her nose...
Coulda died, so young, now looks ugly and old
No fun cause now when she reaches for hugs people hold they breath
Cause she smells of corrosion and death
Watch the company you keep and the crowd you bring
Cause they came to do drugs and you came to sing
So if you gonna be the best, I'ma tell you how,
Put your hands in the air, and take a vow

[Chorus - 2x (Nas and Kids)]
I know I can (I know I can)
Be what I wanna be (be what I wanna be)
If I work hard at it (If I work hard at it)
I'll be where I wanna be (I'll be where I wanna be)

[Nas]
Be, B-Boys and girls, listen again
This is for grown looking girls who's only ten
The ones who watch videos and do what they see
As cute as can be, up in the club with fake ID
Careful, 'fore you meet a man with HIV
You can host the TV like Oprah Winfrey
Whatever you decide, be careful, some men be
Rapists, so act your age, don't pretend to be
Older than you are, give yourself time to grow
You thinking he can give you wealth, but so
Young boys, you can use a lot of help, you know
You thinkin life's all about smokin weed and ice
You don't wanna be my age and can't read and write
Begging different women for a place to sleep at night
Smart boys turn to men and do whatever they wish
If you believe you can achieve, then say it like this

[Chorus]

[Nas]
Be, be, 'fore we came to this country
We were kings and queens, never porch monkeys
There was empires in Africa called Kush
Timbuktu, where every race came to get books
To learn from black teachers who taught Greeks and Romans
Asian Arabs and gave them gold when
Gold was converted to money it all changed
Money then became empowerment for Europeans
The Persian military invaded
They heard about the gold, the teachings, and everything sacred
Africa was almost robbed naked
Slavery was money, so they began making slave ships
Egypt was the place that Alexander the Great went
He was so shocked at the mountains with black faces
Shot up they nose to impose what basically
Still goes on today, you see?
If the truth is told, the youth can grow
Then learn to survive until they gain control
Nobody says you have to be gangstas, hoes
Read more learn more, change the globe
Ghetto children, do your thing
Hold your head up, little man, you're a king
Young Princess when you get your wedding ring
Your man is saying "She's my queen"

[Chorus]

Save the music y'all, save the music y'all
Save the music y'all, save the music y'all
Save the music

Because some people have no taste and are complete and utter idiots.

or, in other words:

Sturgeon's Law: 90% of everything is crap

That's very selfish from you. Why do you (don't get me wrong, you have something in common with 99% of all humans) think, that everything you don't listen to, or do not like, is for utter idiots with no taste?

Modern music in general leaves a lot to be desired. I think the music industry would rather it be that way. Artists like Billy Joel, Elton John, etc. are harder to control than say, the latest manufactured boy band. 1/2 dollar man appeals to the lowest baser instincts of people. I’m thinking his stuff is hard to qualify as art when the subject of the songs’ main objective is to refer to women as dogs in heat whose only value is to accommodate the subject’s sex organ, or killing people and flashing bling bling. But if it's on MTV then it's got to be "in", right? Mindless pabulum. And to think, his target demographic will be running the country one day. And country music is the same. Every male singer's got a cowboy hat, and the music for the most part is not so much country as it is pop music done in the 70's style of the Eagles, or Linda Ronstat. Maybe that will change with the internet and the ability for people to search for, and find alternative music. One can only hope.

Why do People Buy CDs?

fixt



edit: oh my GOD the five-letter minimum is annoying.

no discernable beat, no hooks, no nothing, just a droning, boring electronic buzz that literally anyone could produce with the proper equipment.

Then you add in the lyrics, which are just boring, disgusting, mindless ranting about nothing, unless you consider abusing women and shooting people "something." He can't even rap well because he has no articulation or verbal style to speak of.

Wow! You pretty much just described 99% of rap "artists".


What is similarly troubling is Green Day. They are totally uncool and they totally suck, yet MTV constantly promotes them and naive kids think they are cool.

What the hell are you talking about? Green Day is cool. Dude, their drummers last name is even "Cool". :p

Aaaanyway, back to fiddy cent, yes he's a zero, and perhaps the great unwashed see him as one of them, cos lets face it most people are as talented as 50, so they see him as an equal, yet he's made it, so they think they stand a chance too. The fools.....

.....because of course music should only be made by the very special people who you may not approach or look at directly.

I like this song. :)

This is a very positive song. how unfortunate that most rap has a negative message.

Since starting this thread, I've watched more rap videos, but Fiddy and others. For example, there's a rap by Fiddy about "window shopping," which shows him and his friends driving around Monaco buying expensive gee gaws. The music is like one long drone, and Fiddy seems to be saying that he can afford to buy all this pricey crap, but you the audience can't afford it. Maybe I missed the point, but this music doesn't provide much motivation to try to understand exactly what he's talking about.

fixt



edit: oh my GOD the five-letter minimum is annoying.

How dows Thumper get away with it? He just throws a smilie out there and the Forum program passes it. :confused:

50 cent -shudders-

Just to correct boed, shes stating Sturgeon's revelation--Not law.

His law was actually Nothing is always absolutely so.

Next, to Snouter: Greendays not great, but some of there earlier self-written **** was good. When September Ends is actually pretty good in my opinion, and trust me: Im not a mainstream kinda guy. I loath all these pop-punk imitators that pop up, rip off other artists and get rave reviews--The White Stripes are perhaps the best example. Nothing unique, slightly catchy hooks, and they get praised as the revival of 'underground' rock? **** that. At the drive in are responsible for the survival of underground punk rock if anything.... But anyways, thats a rant for another day.

Rap is perhaps the most hypocritical pile of **** these days. Rap, is not meant to be mistaken for hip-hop. Rap is bassicaly the ying to hip hops yang. The point of hip-hop was to raise awareness of social issues via poetry. Now, as much as i dislike poetry, the background of music beats makes hip-hop very enjoyable. Hip-Hop is very unique from Rap these days, as only a small following actually listen to it, and they arent the same people who listen to rap. Great hip-hop aritsts? Black Thought of The Roots, Talib Kwali, Mos Def, Handsome Boy Modeling School, etc etc. All very respectable artists who write there own material and sample there own beats. So, dont mistake all black beat artists for 'rappers'.

Rap, however as I said before my rant, are hypocritical piles of ****. Many of these blacks are pathetic enough to constantly bitch about white man keeping there people down, the white man ruining the lives of blacks, etc etc, as they go off and spend enough money to house dozens of there 'supressed black people' on a necklace. And they buy 5 of these necklaces. Instead of spending all the millions they make to help black communitys that they claim to represent, they not only corrupt these communities by making black children mindless drones who think about rape, murder, and other ****ty things, but spend money that they could be using to help on several new cars, milliosn of dollars in individual jewlry, mansions, etc etc. On top of that, they have absolutly zero skill. They are not artists, they dont write any of there own **** 90% of the time. They dont even come up with there pathetic lyrics about sex, drugs and opression..

Yea.. Iv said enough I think.

How dows Thumper get away with it? He just throws a smilie out there and the Forum program passes it. :confused:

Some smilies can be written as type & each letter/symbol counts.


: m a d : = :mad: (five 'letters')

: n i c e : = :nice: (six 'letters')

Of course the letters aren't spaced apart like I showed.

:)