What is up with that? :confused:

What is up with that? :confused:

the obvious...

I took DMT in high school and was transported into the 2nd dimension onto the wood paneling of the sports car I was sitting in.
No aliens.

fat mike, did the whole thing last about half an hour?

I don't take DMT - but I saw many aliens as I drove through Berkeley to get to my sister's house on Thanksgiving.

not a drug to fool around with. :hmm:

fat mike, did the whole thing last about half an hour?

Actually it lasted several hours...but my whole perception of time was off...what I thought had been a few moments was actually a much longer span of time. I was watching the old arcade game 'centipede' and saw it in alternating slow/fast motion. Very trippy. Spend two hours, apparently, watching the game run through its demos.

Actually it lasted several hours...but my whole perception of time was off...what I thought had been a few moments was actually a much longer span of time. I was watching the old arcade game 'centipede' and saw it in alternating slow/fast motion. Very trippy. Spend two hours, apparently, watching the game run through its demos.

No,it wasnt almost half an hour-now Myst is my friend now but I didnt know her back then-she would have been about 4 years old! I never shared my drugs with 4 year olds...

No,it wasnt almost half an hour-now Myst is my friend now but I didnt know her back then-she would have been about 4 years old! I never shared my drugs with 4 year olds...

Lol, I did stupid things in my own time. :P

Really stoopid! I'm lucky I can move all my fingers!
*wiggles fingers*

Lol, I did stupid things in my own time. :P

Really stoopid! I'm lucky I can move all my fingers!
*wiggles fingers*

It turns me on when you do that.

WTF is DMT?

WTF is DMT?

Thanks for asking. I have no idea either.

I must be getting old or something. :eek: ;)

DMT, N,N-diemethyltryptamine, Nigerine, desoxybufotenine, 3-(2-dimethylaminoethyl)-indole is a white, pungent-smelling, crystalline solid with a melting point of 49-50 degrees Celsius, hydrochloride salt hygroscopic, picrate m.p. 171-172 degrees Celsius and methiodide m.p. 215-216 degrees Celsius. It is insoluble in water, but soluble in organic solvents and aqueous acids.

Psychological Effects
Like LSD but often more intense. Since it is not taken by mouth, the effects come on suddenly and can be overwhelming. The term "mind blowing" might have been invented for this drug. The experience was described by Alan Watts as like "being fired out of the nozzle of an atomic cannon" (Leary 1968a p.215). Thoughts and visions crowd in at great speed; a sense of leaving or transcending time and a feeling that objects have lost all form and dissolved into a play of vibrations are characteristic. The effect can be like instant transportation to another universe for a timeless sojourn.

*backs slowly away from freaks who voluntarily put something like that in their body*

I thought you could smoke it too??? :confused: ^

Drugs are bad, Just say no! :mad:

I thought you could smoke it too??? :confused: ^

Actually I think one of the "less scientific" sites I found during my short Yahoo search did mention it could be smoked too - seems to come in different forms.

I smoked it on some weed-they used to call it "the businessman's high" because it was so short lived...

I smoked it on some weed-

ditto...

Great,now I'm going to dream about Mysty messed up on DMT all night long!:not:
I hate those dreams!!!

It was a long long long time ago, when I did a lot of stupid things.
Thank God for guardian angels. :nice:

Actually, you usually have to inhale it from a vaporizer. :confused:

Interestingly, the inital rush from heroin can have similar effects on one's perception of space & time, as can some barbituates.

Smoking it worked for me...some snorted it, but I found that gross. :P

MDA also has a lot of great effects, unlike that synthetic MDMA crap. :barf:

MDA also has a lot of great effects, unlike that synthetic MDMA crap. :barf:

Truthfully, I don't remember much :shrug:
I did a heck of a lot of **** for a young lady. :(

I empathize. :)

I worry I've done brain damage...that crap can't be good for cranial development. :(

Baby,You're just as sharp as a tack-of course you might be designing mega computers if you hadnt done it though...

I worry I've done brain damage...that crap can't be good for cranial development. :(
I'd assume your cranial development was complete by the time you did that stuff! :eek3:

Actually, you usually have to inhale it from a vaporizer. :confused:

Interestingly, the inital rush from heroin can have similar effects on one's perception of space & time, as can some barbituates.

Really? Wow. I didn't have any sort of that kind of experience....it was much more akin to amphetamines for me. Very hype, very mobile.



*not that I'm condoning this, really, Kids, don't do drugs
You're just going to have to trust me on this one.*

A narcotic had the same effect as amphetamines on you? You can use the stuff for local surgery. :confused:

Are you sure you knew what you were jacking up?

A narcotic had the same effect as amphetamines on you? You can use the stuff for local surgery. :confused:

Are you sure you knew what you were jacking up?

Well, obviously, not always. I would like to postulate that I am smarter than the average bear, however.

It's more than a postulatation- it's an empirical certainty. :nice:

A narcotic had the same effect as amphetamines on you? You can use the stuff for local surgery. :confused:

Are you sure you knew what you were jacking up?

I really just re-read that you posted here....(dang, where is my right brain?),
But the answer to that is yes, to a certain extend, (although, I think that any serious DMT user would back me up in saying that it's not really a narcotic, but more of a hypnotic; euphoric.

I mean, really, we're not talking cheva here, or really anything close. This is that club drug, you know the one, that one, that thing that we all did and we tossed our hair a little bit and learned another David Byrne insprised dance move.

And just maybe on Hallowe'en, I might have worn the big white suit. Maybe.

Oh, I thought you meant HEROIN had that effect on you - that'd be rather strange for a narcotic.

Oh, I thought you meant HEROIN had that effect on you - that'd be rather strange for a narcotic.

Nope, sorry, heroin makes me drool, and really what is this resurgence of the heroin chich? I mean, really, does anyone on the face of the planet actually find that attractive?

I mean, what is that? Do all y'all sit around and talk about how it would be so cool if your girlfriend hadn't had a meal since 1992?

Is it still considered "chic?" I don't know anymore.

So nobody has seen "alien-like" creatures during a DMT high?

That's more an orange sunshine/windowpane-type thing for me.

So nobody has seen "alien-like" creatures during a DMT high?

I didnt realize the "alien" bit was so essential-what is it about this drug that makes that any more likely than with any other drug? I have to assume you tried it. What was YOUR experience?

That's more an orange sunshine/windowpane-type thing for me.

Yeah, but if Jim wants to see aliens and scary ****, shouldn't he be allowed to do that? (I mean, really, dude, you go right ahead and see what you want, man.)

I mean, we're not actually going to think less of him because he didn't get tattooed while he was tripping on the D train, right?

Although, Jim, I've got to tell you; usuallty somewhere along this DMT/MDA line there is that point that one comes to; that point where one might look inside and say, hey man, it might be worth my while to be a better person.

What do you think about that?

I'd assume your cranial development was complete by the time you did that stuff! :eek3:

That would depend on when one's grey matter is completely developed.

So nobody has seen "alien-like" creatures during a DMT high?

No, just a friggen fast centipede that went 3-D. I screamed, and got funny looks, I was removed from the premises...:(

So nobody has seen "alien-like" creatures during a DMT high?

nope..I can only speak for myself though:)

I worry I've done brain damage...that crap can't be good for cranial development. :(

Dude!! You just summarized why I didn't try anything "heavy" til after I was 21. :nice:

On this topic, I agree with FM - I also had a wood paneling experience. I felt like everything was flat, and like legos and stuff. :eek3:

That's neat,Kym-we're a pair!!!

That's neat,Kym-we're a pair!!!
I know!!

I'm not surprised :)

What's DMT, exactly?


EDIT: Never mind, I just read the rest of the thread....:nonono:

COMMON & BRAND NAMES
DMT; Dimitri
EFFECTS CLASSIFICATION
Psychedelic Tryptamine
CHEMICAL NAME
N,N-dimethyltryptamine
DESCRIPTION
DMT is a powerful, visual psychedelic which produces short-acting effects when smoked. It is used orally in combination with an MAOI, as in ayahuasca brews. It is naturally produced in the human brain and by many plants.

Late 8th Century Burial site in N. chile includes bag with snuffing paraphernalia and snuff remnants containing DMT, 5-MeO-DMT, & Bufotenine. Other sites include seeds of Anadenanthera spp.
1496 Friar Ramon Pane documented the use of a psychoactive snuff called cohoba/yopo among the Taino who inhabited the island of Hispaniola (Haiti/Dominican Republic). It is now agreed that cohoba/yopo was almost certainly made from Anadenanthera peregrina which contains N,N-DMT, 5-MeO-DMT, and Bufotenin. 1 [Details]
16th - 19th Century Cohoba snuff from the Yopo tree used by natives of Columbia and surrounding areas.
1560 Indians along the Rio Guaviare in Colombia take Yopa along with tobacco.
1571 Incan medicine men make prophecies through inebriation brought about by drinking vilca, a DMT containing preparation of A. colubrina.
1741 A Jesuit writes about cohoba use by the native people between Colombia and Venezuela.
1801 Baron Alexander Humboldt identified the yopo tree as Anadenanthera peregrina
1931 DMT first synthesized by British chemist Richard Manske and named "nigerine".
1939 Virola genus identified as the source of a psychoactive snuff called epena used in Amazoniana Columbia, Venezuela and Western Brazil.
1955 n,n-DMT is identified as one of the psychoactive ingredients of the A. peregrina seeds used to make cohoba snuff. This marked the first time that n,n-DMT was discovered naturally occuring in a plant or animal. 2
1971 N,N-DMT becomes illegal in the U.S. with the passage of the 1971 Convention on Psychotropic Substances.

Actually it lasted several hours

In that case it wasn't DMT which you smoked. Probably a related compound with similar effects. Smoked it only lasts around 30-mins on average, injected intravenously even less (albeit with a more intense trip) IIRC. Although saying that, you will experience a "come down" of an hour or two afterwards, although I wouldn't really catagorize this as proper "tripping". There is one possible exception, a very closely related substance called 5-MeO-DMT (which is similar in duration times to DMT), when insufflated (inhaled using vaporizer) can last for 2 to 3 hours, but with a calmer, less intense trip.

The only time DMT lasts full-on for several hours is when ingested orally as the primary ingredient in "medicine" such as Ayahausca soup or similar.

Sounds to me you maybe got your hands on another related compound like 5-MeO-MIPT, 5-MeO-DiPT, 5-MeO-AMT (although peple who smoke it, and not consume orally normally end up pretty messed up), or maybe even AMT (although I'm not even sure you can smoke this).

Smoking it several times in an afternoon would keep one suufciently stoned for a while.

Ha, well in that case, yeah I'd imagine it would :) *is envious* :D


For the guy who originally started the thread, check out 'DMT - The Spirit Molecule' by Rick Strassman, M.D., if you're looking for some insightful genuine DMT accounts (including aliens).

Dick Head, I did not want to get into the DNA symbolism as I would guess that Strassman's book might touch on based on the title, but was just curious if anyone saw the aliens.

you guys are a bad influence. :mad:

*tries DMT :|*

*backs slowly away from freaks who voluntarily put something like that in their body*

Wait for me dude. *follows Shadoglare*

Yeeeeeaa im all about killing brain cells and getting messed up, but this **** just sounds way too intense. I think a couple of hits of acid is my threshold.

Just to clear things up, I have not done acid in about 4 years and never plan on doing it ever again. *high fives Bo* :p

I felt like everything was flat, and like legos and stuff. :eek3:

LMAO! :lol:

tripping has never been about getting trashed and killing brain cells. Its about discovering yourself and reflecting on your life. the indians knew that. Everything on this earth has a purpose.

Just to clear things up, I have not done acid in about 4 years and never plan on doing it ever again. *high fives Bo* :p
You better not, or I'll kick your ass! :mad:

Good boy for not doing it again, though. *gives cookie* :D
you guys are a bad influence. :mad:

*tries DMT :|*
:slap:

:slap:

I wasn't being serious I was making a point. :mad:

I haven't done acid for 10 years and won't ever do it again, either, can I have a cookie too?

I'm just not psychologically stable enough to handle psychedics. I have never, ever had even a little bit of a good time on them.

I haven't done acid for 10 years and won't ever do it again, either, can I have a cookie too?

I'm just not psychologically stable enough to handle psychedics. I have never, ever had even a little bit of a good time on them.
Good girl! *gives cookie* :)
I wasn't being serious I was making a point. :mad:
I know, you wouldn't do that. It's not funny to joke, though. :(

I never got the chance to do acid.

I was with a group of friends in a park, and my boyfriend at the time accidentally dropped my hit on the ground. Turns out a pigeon found it and beat me to it! :eek7:

I wasn't being serious I was making a point.

All underlying peer pressure is purely in your mind. If you feel compelled to do something stupid or that you are not ready for because you lack experience and have nothing to offer the discussion, you should go back to studying for school and not cruising internet bulletin boards that discuss adult topics. :mad:

Since nobody has seen the aliens, I guess I will not bother asking if there was any communication with them once they were visible. :(

Dick Head, I did not want to get into the DNA symbolism as I would guess that Strassman's book might touch on based on the title, but was just curious if anyone saw the aliens.

Maybe you should at least read a synopsis, or extracts before you judge a book by the title alone. It mentions nohing of DNA symbolism, sir :)

Based on the copy of the book I have glanced through and his commentary elsewhere, I was under the impression that he saw a pattern with the ancient snake symbolism, DNA, the incredible physical length of DNA in the human body (each strand is about 6 feet long and each of the trillions of cells in the body has a strand) thus tying humans into deep into the universe, and visually seeing DNA during the DMT induced episodes.

From Straussman's website.

Simple images of DNA and microscopic biological structures progressed to whirling numbers and hieroglyphics.

Interesting stuff regarding conception and death.

DMT may be a spirit molecule, naturally produced and capable of transporting us to different states of mind and unimaginable realms of experience. The pineal gland seemed to me the most likely place to look for this endogenous DMT.

A "DMT theory of pineal function" has great appeal, as many of the necessary ingredients and enzymes for its formation exist in remarkably high concentrations in the pineal. Building upon existing data, I present several scenarios in which the pineal may produce DMT instead of melatonin. I speculate about endogenous DMT's role in dreams, meditation, birth, near-death, and death. I suggest that the individual's life-force enters the body through the pineal at 49 days after conception, and leaves it through the pineal gland at death. This 49-day prenatal period corresponds to the first signs of fetal pineal tissue, the differentiation of the gonads into male and female, and how long it takes between the death of an individual and its soul's next rebirth according to the Tibetan Buddhist tradition. I suggest a meta-physical model in which biological, psychological, and spiritual drives or impulses all may exist in a dynamic tension within this spirit gland.

And the aliens...

This chapter establishes the "landscape" for the encounters with "beings" that follow in the next two chapters. It begins to raise some of the difficult questions regarding the bases for these remarkably powerful, "more real than real" experiences of being "somewhere else." Reports of "entity" contact are found even in early 1950's human DMT research.

This chapter discusses two volunteers' extraordinarily detailed and complex encounters with beings.

I suggest DMT alters the receiving qualities of the brain, and employ a television analogy. Personal healing occurs by an enhancement of "contrast and focus"; invisible worlds and entity contact takes place by changing reception of "channels" to include dark matter and parallel universes. I propose an explanation for the oft-reported experience of the beings anticipating the volunteers' arrival, and their ability to interact with our body.
Mystical and near-death states may happen by establishing a dynamic equilibrium between channels in which we experience the essential energy that courses through the receiver. Finally, I address the evolutionary significance of endogenous human DMT, and conclude that DMT exists in our brains in order to provide consciousness a necessary mechanism: as a spirit molecule allowing us to gain access to non-material realms.

* Epilogue
The book closes with an excerpt from a volunteer's high dose session in which "they" emerged from a raging psychedelic waterfall, asking him in a sing-song manner, "Now do you see? Now do you see?" This question, more than any, symbolized for me the most personally compelling factor motivating my performing the DMT research.

http://www.rickstrassman.com/dmt/chaptersummaries.html#Molecule

William Burroughs had tried it in London and reported it in the most negative terms. Burroughs was working at that time on a theory of neurological geography -- certain cortical areas were heavenly, other areas were diabolical. Like explorers moving into a new continent, it was important to map out the friendly areas and the hostile. In Burroughs' pharmacological cartography, DMT propelled the voyager into strange and decidedly unfriendly territory.

Burroughs told a gripping tale about a psychiatrist in London who had taken DMT with a friend. After a few minutes the frightened friend began requesting help. The psychiatrist, himself being spun through a universe of shuttling, vibratory pigments, reached for his hypodermic needle (which had been fragmented into a shimmering assemblage of wave mosaics) and bent over to administer an antidote. Much to his dismay his friend, twisting in panic, was suddenly transformed into a writhing, wiggling reptile, jewel-encrusted and sparkling. The doctor's dilemma: where to make an intravenous injection in a squirming, oriental-martian snake?


http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/dmt_journal5.shtml

This stuff is deadly...but not as bad as that Cheech and Chong pot that turned Stacey Keach into a lizard.

It's just as well the effects wear off so quickly...

I did a bunch of acid about 10 years ago too. At first it was really fun but then I started to have really introspective trips. I can't say they were bad trips because I learned a lot but it definately left me worn out. I would say that unless you are trying to use it for expanding your mind you should leave all of this stuff alone. If you just want to have fun stick with weed. LSD and her cousins are too hard on the brain. Still to this day I have to get plenty of sleep or I can not concentrate. I still get visual distortions sometimes and let me tell you. At this point it is no longer cool.

Since nobody has seen the aliens, I guess I will not bother asking if there was any communication with them once they were visible. :(

I have a friend who took 12 hits of really strong Acid. He layed on his couch for 3 days afraid to move. He was there alone. He said that dead relatives came to him and told him that "when people from another dimension are here the anti-christ will be revealed." That was really strange because he was not the type of person that thought about things like that. He was not a deep person at all. People from another dimension kind of sounds like aliens to me.

Knightowl, interesting commentary by your friend. In theory though, he might have just been saying something he heard subconsciously sometime earlier though. Not sure why the presence of aliens would reveal the anti-Christ.

Hey, yeah lol i'm new but...where the hell do u get DMT(diemethyltryptamine)? I want some so bad. Sounds like fun. I love out-of-body experiences and stuff like that on drugs.

you can get it in shaman shops beware it is not any mushroom trip