What does it mean that two weeks ago, I celebrated my 35th birthday and am still a virgin? What does it mean that I have never even kissed a woman and have only ever been on a couple dates.

I don't get it. I am not fat or ugly (6' 1" 170LB). I am actually a pretty normal looking guy. I have hobbies like hiking, reading, movies. I am intelligent, have a good job, and my own place. I can cook and clean and don't and in general take care of myself. Yes, I am a little on the quiet side, but I have friends who are the same way, and they manage to find girlfriends and have sex.

How can my life in this regard have so completely fallen through the cracks. And how do I even approach a woman (I have no problem doing this by the way) when I have this secret. Won't she run for the hills when she finds out? I need suggestions for dealing with this. Any ideas out there?

Oh, don't suggest a prostitute or something, that is just against my morals.

Nothing personal cos I don't know you, but I cannot believe a 35 year old guy that wants to get laid is a virgin. Maybe if you said you were a wannabe priest, or gay and couldn't face the world, or locked in Samson's dungeon, or if you were totally insane, I might buy into it. But come on, if a 35 year old guy told me, " I'm a virgin" in real life, I would run like hell.


Though you seem nice enough and welcome to DA :D

What does it mean that two weeks ago, I celebrated my 35th birthday and am still a virgin? What does it mean that I have never even kissed a woman and have only ever been on a couple dates.

I don't get it. I am not fat or ugly (6' 1" 170LB). I am actually a pretty normal looking guy. I have hobbies like hiking, reading, movies. I am intelligent, have a good job, and my own place. I can cook and clean and don't and in general take care of myself. Yes, I am a little on the quiet side, but I have friends who are the same way, and they manage to find girlfriends and have sex.

How can my life in this regard have so completely fallen through the cracks. And how do I even approach a woman (I have no problem doing this by the way) when I have this secret. Won't she run for the hills when she finds out? I need suggestions for dealing with this. Any ideas out there?

Oh, don't suggest a prostitute or something, that is just against my morals.
It means you're a guy of good statute and I commend you for it :)

Nothing personal cos I don't know you, but I cannot believe a 35 year old guy that wants to get laid is a virgin. Maybe if you said you were a wannabe priest, or gay and couldn't face the world, or locked in Samson's dungeon, or if you were totally insane, I might buy into it. But come on, if a 35 year old guy told me, " I'm a virgin" in real life, I would run like hell.


Though you seem nice enough and welcome to DA :D

Maybe he's a former priest?

first post - ban this user

(also, the less he's on a computer, the better)

Maybe he's a former priest?

oh ya, I left one out :D

:hmms:

Nothing personal cos I don't know you, but I cannot believe a 35 year old guy that wants to get laid is a virgin. Maybe if you said you were a wannabe priest, or gay and couldn't face the world, or locked in Samson's dungeon, or if you were totally insane, I might buy into it. But come on, if a 35 year old guy told me, " I'm a virgin" in real life, I would run like hell.


Though you seem nice enough and welcome to DA :D

LOL!

first post - ban this user

Then again...I might want to keep this guy around in case i need a pick me up. Cheese 'n rice, I thought I had it bad.

(also, the less he's on a computer, the better)

:werd: :stupid:

I think Uncle Pony needs to field this one.

Then again...I might want to keep this guy around in case i need a pick me up. Cheese 'n rice, I thought I had it bad.
^Edit:this was supposed to be outside of the quote. ^ :doh:

Nothing personal cos I don't know you, but I cannot believe a 35 year old guy that wants to get laid is a virgin. Maybe if you said you were a wannabe priest, or gay and couldn't face the world, or locked in Samson's dungeon, or if you were totally insane, I might buy into it. But come on, if a 35 year old guy told me, " I'm a virgin" in real life, I would run like hell.


Though you seem nice enough and welcome to DA :D

:yeahthat:

(also, the less he's on a computer, the better)

LOL

:D

After 35 years of celibacy, why are you just worrying about it now?

Watch it and learn:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0405422/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD0xfGZiPXV8cG49MHxxPXZpcmdpbnxteD 0yMHxsbT01MDB8aHRtbD0x;fc=2;ft=194;fm=1

you could really use it to your advantage.

there are some very attractive girls out there who are saving themselves for marriage, and they say that they would like to meet a guy who is doing the same. if you're the normal guy you say you are, I'm sure they'd be very excited to meet you!

I met one on MySpace, and I saw a profile for another one on match.com.

Is it that you don't wnat to or did just not manage it?
If you didn't want and now you do, well thats your problem.
If it is the second case I wouldn't do anything to have sex but just be myself.

I met one on MySpace, and I saw a profile for another one on match.com.

Can you meet broads older than 18 on MySpace? The few times I have surfed it, it seems like retarded circles of teenagers who like Ashlee Simpson. :confused:

I tried filling out a Match.com form needed to surf the local available broads but it was too tedious. :(

Can you meet broads older than 18 on MySpace? The few times I have surfed it, it seems like retarded circles of teenagers who like Ashlee Simpson. :confused:

I tried filling out a Match.com form needed to surf the local available broads but it was too tedious. :(
Yes, a lot of college aged girls use it. Even higher than that even :)

Maybe I will sign up for a website there then. :o

Snouter, there's a search feature on MySpace. You can specify the ages of people that you want to search for.

What does it mean that two weeks ago, I celebrated my 35th birthday and am still a virgin? What does it mean that I have never even kissed a woman and have only ever been on a couple dates.

I don't get it. I am not fat or ugly (6' 1" 170LB). I am actually a pretty normal looking guy. I have hobbies like hiking, reading, movies. I am intelligent, have a good job, and my own place. I can cook and clean and don't and in general take care of myself. Yes, I am a little on the quiet side, but I have friends who are the same way, and they manage to find girlfriends and have sex.

How can my life in this regard have so completely fallen through the cracks. And how do I even approach a woman (I have no problem doing this by the way) when I have this secret. Won't she run for the hills when she finds out? I need suggestions for dealing with this. Any ideas out there?



I think you sound like a nice guy. Im truly surprised you havent had a sexual reltaionship in all this time if youve really wanted one. Then again, maybe a part of you didnt. Maybe you needed to work on your relationship with yourself or whatever. The thing to remember is-people are ready for it all at different times. It doesnt matter if youre 16 or 40...if you feel youre ready now...then do all the things that others do-
Build on your self-confidence
Go out to clubs/bars/other places with lots of people.
Get new hobbies. Get back into education, join clubs of people with similar interests. Thisll increase your chances of meeting someone decent.
And really, just wait, and relax. Going out and looking for love, or a stable relationship, never works. Itll come to you, when youre ready.
Also, why do you have to tell them youre a virgin? If this makes you uncomfortable, just dont. But then again, if you find the right person you may just be able to tell them and thered be no problem. I dont see why it has to be such a big deal.
Best of luck to you.
Xx

I might buy into it. But come on, if a 35 year old guy told me, " I'm a virgin" in real life, I would run like hell.


So how old is it "acceptable" to still be a virgin?

Honestly speaking, some guys are shy. Some do not have opportunities. There is no law that says you HAVE to get laid. Cut the dude some slack.

(Maybe we should fix this guy up with eepers)

So how old is it "acceptable" to still be a virgin?

Honestly speaking, some guys are shy. Some do not have opportunities. There is no law that says you HAVE to get laid. Cut the dude some slack.
:stupid: That's pretty harsh. Give the guy a break, he just hasn't met the right one yet. Just because they're 35 and haven't done it doesn't mean they're a psychopath or anything :rolleyes:
Hell, look at me, if I stayed a virgin until I was 35+ would you think I was a psycho? :shrug:

(Maybe we should fix this guy up with eepers)
*Shudders*
We don't want to traumatize the poor guy :nonono:

What does it mean that two weeks ago, I celebrated my 35th birthday and am still a virgin? What does it mean that I have never even kissed a woman and have only ever been on a couple dates.

I don't get it. I am not fat or ugly (6' 1" 170LB). I am actually a pretty normal looking guy. I have hobbies like hiking, reading, movies. I am intelligent, have a good job, and my own place. I can cook and clean and don't and in general take care of myself. Yes, I am a little on the quiet side, but I have friends who are the same way, and they manage to find girlfriends and have sex.

How can my life in this regard have so completely fallen through the cracks. And how do I even approach a woman (I have no problem doing this by the way) when I have this secret. Won't she run for the hills when she finds out? I need suggestions for dealing with this. Any ideas out there?

Oh, don't suggest a prostitute or something, that is just against my morals. You could try creative visualizing techniques (get a couple of books) along with that you can leave hidden messages to yourself like on mirrors around your house and in your wallet, on your desk. Just make sure no one can tell the meaning of the messages that you leave for yourself. But remember this that in Revelations it is 144,000 males that have not been with women that make it into heaven. So you have a leg up on almost everyone.

I think it simply means that you don't want it enough, or want it too much and scare it away. Either that or you have attached too many other conditions, prerequisites and additional considerations to the sex and/or relationship...an all-or-nothing attitude perhaps.
It may be time to reassess the ideals you've set for your potential partner and tone it down to a more practical range that isn't so all-inclusive. Of course, once you start having sex you discover a whole new area of preferences to guide (or limit) you.

I think it simply means that you don't want it enough, or want it too much and scare it away. Either that or you have attached too many other conditions, prerequisites and additional considerations to the sex and/or relationship...an all-or-nothing attitude perhaps.
It may be time to reassess the ideals you've set for your potential partner and tone it down to a more practical range that isn't so all-inclusive. Of course, once you start having sex you discover a whole new area of preferences to guide (or limit) you.

Dreamscapist, I think you've said it well, but in summary,

"It may be time to" GROW UP?!

Dreamscapist, I think you've said it well, but in summary,

"It may be time to" GROW UP?!

Celibacy is a rigour only possible for the terribly mature,Samson.

Get new hobbies. Get back into education, join clubs of people with similar interests. Thisll increase your chances of meeting someone decent.

:werd:

You said you like cooking; if your city has adult education classes at a college/uni take some cooking classes. Lots of women take those, I know (personal experience).

There's also book clubs since you like reading and women like those too, I hear. Get ready to read crap though. :D heehee


Yes, I am a little on the quiet side, but I have friends who are the same way, and they manage to find girlfriends and have sex.

Whatever they did; do it.

So how old is it "acceptable" to still be a virgin?

Honestly speaking, some guys are shy. Some do not have opportunities. There is no law that says you HAVE to get laid. Cut the dude some slack.

(Maybe we should fix this guy up with eepers)

Though truthfully, the average age in the world for losing your virginity is 17 years old, according to the world's largest sex survey (http://www.durex.com/cm/GSS2004Results.asp)

and it is hard to believe that a

quoted by original poster
not fat or ugly (6' 1" 170LB). I am actually a pretty normal looking guy. I have hobbies like hiking, reading, movies. I am intelligent, have a good job, and my own place. I can cook and clean and don't and in general take care of myself.


that wants to get laid can't get laid. Although you are quoting me out of context, I also said this to him

quoted by KachieMichelle
Nothing personal cos I don't know you, but I cannot believe a 35 year old guy that wants to get laid is a virgin.

Though you seem nice enough and welcome to DA


And truthfully I would pretty much ignore a 35 year that claimed he was a virgin unless I knew him well and or he had a damn good reason. I stand by my comments to him, it is how I feel whether you'd like me to think otherwise or not.

Though truthfully, the average age in the world for losing your virginity is 17 years old, according to the world's largest sex survey (http://www.durex.com/cm/GSS2004Results.asp)

and it is hard to believe that a



that wants to get laid can't get laid. Although you are quoting me out of context, I also said this to him



And truthfully I would pretty much ignore a 35 year that claimed he was a virgin unless I knew him well and or he had a damn good reason. I stand by my comments to him, it is how I feel whether you'd like me to think otherwise or not.
Well I was a virgin until I was 29 and I can tell you that I was not fat (not back then anyway) or that ugly. I was just really shy and had no luck with women at all. I think it may have been because I was a nice guy and as everyone knows nice guys NEVER get laid.

And Believe me.... ALL I COULD THINK ABOUT THEN WAS SEX SEX AND SEX

In fact I probibly saw more pornos than any person alive.

As for the survey I do not trust it all that much. When I was 17 I knew very few guys who had sex. Some talked about it but we all knew they were lying. Most guys I knew did not have their first sex until college.

No offence Kachie but I think that its easy for a woman to make assumptions about all guys without making an effort to understand them.

I would add that I have a friend my own age who is a decent person, has a good job, has no vices (no drinking or smoking) and would love to have a family but cannot find a wife. I asked a girl he used to date why she left him and she told me, "he is too nice a guy. I need a guy who is a little more agressive." I swear its the truth. Nice guys just cant get any.

:yeahthat: True words Crim :)

I think this fella needs to get over his morals and buy a prostitute.
Really, at 35 most women expect you to have some basic working knowledge of female anatomy. That means you are behind on your education. You need a professional tutor to help you catch up on what you've missed.

I think this fella needs to get over his morals and buy a prostitute.
Really, at 35 most women expect you to have some basic working knowledge of female anatomy. That means you are behind on your education. You need a professional tutor to help you catch up on what you've missed.
Problem is that some guys look for more than just quick sex. Sure you can fly off to Vegas (where its legal) and hire a professional sex worker for the night. But not everyone is looking for just sex. I myself think that sex should be the expression of love in a meaningful relationship.

the average age in the world for losing your virginity is 17 years old, according to the world's largest sex survey (http://www.durex.com/cm/GSS2004Results.asp)

I would have thought it would have been younger than that. :p

Guh, I would hope not :P

Problem is that some guys look for more than just quick sex. Sure you can fly off to Vegas (where its legal) and hire a professional sex worker for the night. But not everyone is looking for just sex. I myself think that sex should be the expression of love in a meaningful relationship.

And how's that approach working for him so far?

Nah, he needs a prostitute. Really, he does.

:lol:

And how's that approach working for him so far?

Nah, he needs a prostitute. Really, he does.
LOL

Well its not the politically correct thing to say but I guess there are reasons for sex workers.

Just play it safe and practice safe sex.:D

In all seriousness, I do wonder why people treat virginity like an affliction. If you have not done the dirty deed it does not make you a freak, just a guy with bad luck.

Also, if its a woman who has not had sex its not always seen as something bad. Why is that?

If you have not done the dirty deed it does not make you a freak, just a guy with bad luck.


or a straight guy on a navy ship :)

or a straight guy on a navy ship :):eek: :eek:

Problem is that some guys look for more than just quick sex. Sure you can fly off to Vegas (where its legal) and hire a professional sex worker for the night. But not everyone is looking for just sex. I myself think that sex should be the expression of love in a meaningful relationship.

Actually, it's not legal in Vegas; it's legal outside of Vegas. That's why you have to call the limos to come get you and drive off to these ranches. Of course, that's what I heard. Nope, never experienced it first hand. Uh-huh. Not me.:|

:eek: :eek:

Naaaa. Those guys always can find those little brown-breasted bed thrashers in exotic ports of call.

Janus, lay off the racist remarks, or your ban will extend to the whole board.

sex is just a consolation for a lack of love.

love can come at anytime, whether your 14 or your 90 or at any age inbetween

ok i've gotten this all from a book jacket

Oddly enough, I'm more than a little past the age of 17 and haven't had sex either, but it's because I don't like girls and feel that homosexuality is a very bad thing. The Catholic Church started and is run by men like me, but not interested in that - thanks.

There are people that are way past the age most people start having sex but not to have a semi logical reason might be a concern. Talk to someone professional and ask them.

Jay, I thought you were a woman? :hmm:

mbv- this is probably because deep down you want a girl that you just automatically click with. you are waiting for that hollywood way of falling in love with someone. although this does happen occasionally, it gets alot harder as you grow older. i find myself relating with you because my situation matches yours in every way, except im 20.

i guess what i'm tring to say, is that if you want a girlfriend, you have to work for it. if you find someone you think it could work out with, you need to take the opportunity - don't wait for it to all fall into place; ask her if she wants to have dinner with you or whatnot.

this advice goes against my heart's wishes, but i believe it is true advice nonetheless. i do wish a relationship that "just happens" works for everyone, but apparently it doesn't.

so again, i suggest you seize the moment. thats how a majority of people get into a relationship. it's just going to be tricky, because you'll have no idea how it will turn out. but if you do find that girl, where everything falls into place... you are a lucky man.

best of luck!


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wow i just noticed this post is very old, and this guy hasn't responded to it in over a month, oh welll

Lurking around the wooded area behind the local elementary school might be considered "hiking" to some, but chances are, your non-existent dates might be put off by the kind of activity that costs nothing, requires clunky, unattractive footwear and could potentially lead to a lifetime spent in a survivalist cabin, frying up skillet squirrel at gunpoint and using their pelts as underwear.

Don't ask me. I started having sex at 14 and I've loved it ever since. There's nothing wrong with being a virgin and I would never criticize someone for waiting until marriage. My advise would be to not worry about it. You say you date so when the time and person (or persons) are right it will happen. And once that genie is out of the bottle.....

im only 20 but for sure i wouldnt have sex with a guy my age who was still a virgin... ive experienced so much that i dont think we would mesh well. i need an experienced man :nice: lol plus... i dont mean to insult.. but i dont think men truely become men until theyve had sex... its a vital part of socialization with your peers as a man.. men think about sex.. talk about sex.. go to bars to have sex.. go to coffee shops to have sex.. meet girls to have ses.. its just what they do. and it just doesnt seem to me like virgin would be able to function well in our adult world :shrug:

i dont mean to insult.. but i dont think men truely become men until theyve had sex...

T'is a bit insulting. Any boy of a certain age can have sex. A true man builds relationships, thinks about the consequences of his actions, and take responsibility for his actions.


and it just doesnt seem to me like virgin would be able to function well in our adult world :shrug:

I know people who have sired kids in their frisky youth, pay child support and work like dogs at the sacrifice of their social lives to pay for them. Somebody like me doesn't have to worry about things like child support and can have a life (without babysitting and day care worries), even through stretches of financial lulls as I have built up a rainy-day nest egg.

I will continue to hold off sexual activity until I can find a woman who is willing to commit to me as I am to her. No regrets. I am fully secure in my manhood. :)

Self control for the win.Mainitaining your moral standards despite temptation shows a strength of character.I can't claim that-I'm glad that some can...

i didnt mean it like that.. but i see your point, CCC. i just meant that theres a certain type of maturity a guy gains when he is no longer sexually inexperienced.. not that all guys whove had sex are nessicarily men by any means. but i dont think that full grown man who has not had sex can truely be a well rounded man (maturity wise) because he is lacking a big experience in that we can assume most other adults his age have already had. theyve already climbed that hill and back down again when he is still waiting at the base too timid to even try.

Mainitaining your moral standards despite temptation shows a strength of character.I can't claim that-I'm glad that some can...

You can claim it starting today. With God, all things are possible. :)

I see the line of reasoning but I disagree-being too timid totry marijuana would have saved me a lot of problems-beingtoo timid to chase those married women would have been good for me also-I'd most likely have a better job,I'd have been able to go to school-it's breathtaking the sacrifices a man makes to chase a bit of fluff...

But remember this that in Revelations it is 144,000 males that have not been with women that make it into heaven. So you have a leg up on almost everyone.

So heaven will be populated with men from San Fransisco, and this guy. I don't think this will improve his situation. :|

but i dont think that full grown man who has not had sex can truely be a well rounded man (maturity wise) because he is lacking a big experience in that we can assume most other adults his age have already had.

I disagree, but I'd be happy for some lovely lady to get me "well-rounded." ;)


theyve already climbed that hill and back down again when he is still waiting at the base too timid to even try.

It's not a matter of timidity, it's timing. When the time is right, when the female is right for me, it will happen. The opportunities I've had in the past for sex had I taken them up on the offer would had been HUGE mistakes. No regrets.

You can claim it starting today. With God, all things are possible. :)

There is some validity to what you say,but I'll never be a virgin again.I've had like 23 years of celibacy-but the baser nature still rears its ugly hjead in other ways...
You're a kind decent guy,Alan.

I see the line of reasoning but I disagree-being too timid totry marijuana would have saved me a lot of problems-beingtoo timid to chase those married women would have been good for me also-I'd most likely have a better job,I'd have been able to go to school-it's breathtaking the sacrifices a man makes to chase a bit of fluff...
would you really take back all of those experiences if you could? i sure as hell wouldnt. i wouldnt be who i am if i did.

would you really take back all of those experiences if you could? i sure as hell wouldnt. i wouldnt be who i am if i did.

I would be a different person,you're right-maybe there's a point to my going through that stuff.even bad experiences can strengthen you-I'm glad there are guys like Alan though. I'm not able to do certain things that he can.
maybe the reverse is also true but ability to talk to hoods and scam artists isn't something I'd have picked if I was thinking...

There is some validity to what you say,but I'll never be a virgin again.I've had like 23 years of celibacy-but the baser nature still rears its ugly hjead in other ways...

Some of my best friends aren't virgins. Maybe all of them aren't virgins. That's OK with me.

We all struggle with things. I'm not perfect. I have my struggles. Hopefully we can use our own personal experiences for the better, even when all they seem to do is trip us up.

Romans 5 says...
1Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we rejoice in the hope of the glory of God. 3Not only so, but we also rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; 4perseverance, character; and character, hope. 5And hope does not disappoint us, because God has poured out his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, whom he has given us.

Of course if you're like me, you automatically go "rejoice in our sufferings?" Blech :P I'd rather forget all that jazz. But I guess we're stuck with 'em and we have to do what we can with these lemons.

You're a kind decent guy,Alan.

Thanks, Bruce.

would you really take back all of those experiences if you could? i sure as hell wouldnt. i wouldnt be who i am if i did.

I would be a different person,you're right-maybe there's a point to my going through that stuff.even bad experiences can strengthen you-I'm glad there are guys like Alan though. I'm not able to do certain things that he can.
maybe the reverse is also true but ability to talk to hoods and scam artists isn't something I'd have picked if I was thinking...

I'm sure you can do things I can't. :)

I'd figure by 35 a guy would have accidentally tripped and fallen into some by then.

[QUOTE=mbv P7R6T8]What does it mean that two weeks ago, I celebrated my 35th birthday and am still a virgin? What does it mean that I have never even kissed a woman and have only ever been on a couple dates.

I don't get it. I am not fat or ugly (6' 1" 170LB). I am actually a pretty normal looking guy. I have hobbies like hiking, reading, movies. I am intelligent, have a good job, and my own place. I can cook and clean and don't and in general take care of myself. Yes, I am a little on the quiet side, but I have friends who are the same way, and they manage to find girlfriends and have sex.

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I actually think it's really sweet that you are still a virgin. I too am in a similiar situation. I am a 30 year old woman who has never had sex (or even kissed a guy). I don't tell people because I don't think they would ever believe me. I once recently told a guy that I don't date alot and he laughed saying that "I never would have thought that by looking at you." I do have guys chasing me and I am extroverted so I think that is why people get a bit surprised when I even give a little detail into my dating life. I have no problem getting in front of people and giving speeches (I have done some public speaking on and off since 18 based on my work) but for some reason get me into a date situation and I freeze up. Again, people who have seen me talk would probably be shocked.

I think for me I've been very focused on my career and didn't want to get attached to the wrong guy - so I have been very careful who I have feelings for. The two guys I did grow attached to were close friends and sadly the feeling was not shared. (One I shared my feelings with...a mistake...and the other I kept it to myself since I knew he was of another faith and would never accept me.) Anyway, I am getting at that stage that I feel a little frustrated and wonder why I haven't found someone I can feel comfortable enough to share real intimacy with. I worry I'll be the 40 year old virgin and if I ever do get married my husband will a) not believe me initially or b) wonder what happened? I come from a very conservative family and they expect me to stay a virgin until I marry (any other way would seem strange to them) but the older I get the more I wonder is there something wrong with me? And when I finally lose my looks will I regret not having "fun" when I could have? Or will I be grateful that I waited and did not grow attached to someone that would have disregarded me after he attained what he desired?

I don't understand why so many people have hangups about sex. Sex is fun. Sex is good. And it's easy to find, if you know how to look.

I don't understand why so many people have hangups about sex. Sex is fun. Sex is good. And it's easy to find, if you know how to look.
im with ya feenix!

Come to Canada! The friendliest country after Netherlands...:D

We should put signs up: WELCOME TO CANADA: VIRGIN HEAVEN. We'll throw in some pot as well... HAH!:hiya:


Oooh Caaaaaanadaaaaaaaaaaaaa...........:drink: :beer:

Come to Canada! The friendliest country after Netherlands...:D

We should put signs up: WELCOME TO CANADA: VIRGIN HEAVEN. We'll throw in some pot as well... HAH!:hiya:


Oooh Caaaaaanadaaaaaaaaaaaaa...........:drink: :beer:
:nice: :banana: :beer:
LOL

im with ya feenix!

We should really explore our mutual interests together... ;)

LOL! *hides* :D

It's sooo easy for a woman to spout such things as 'sex is great, it's easy to find' blah blah blah. Of course it's easy to find for a woman. You go out, hit on the cutest guy in the bar, and 90% of the time he'll give you what you want.

Women have no idea on how hard it is for men these days.

It's sooo easy for a woman to spout such things as 'sex is great, it's easy to find' blah blah blah. Of course it's easy to find for a woman. You go out, hit on the cutest guy in the bar, and 90% of the time he'll give you what you want.

Women have no idea on how hard it is for men these days.

That greatly depends on the situation.

I don't understand why so many people have hangups about sex. Sex is fun. Sex is good. And it's easy to find, if you know how to look.


Easy to find you say? HOW then?! And I'm in Canada too. That statement will seriously prompt someone here to post "Almost sixteen year old virgin". :D

Step 1) Become an artist. (You don't need to be a good one.;) )

Step 2) Find a subject. (I mean a woman, not a vase of flowers.;))

Step 3) Say to her, "Take off your clothes."

Step 4) Be BOLD. What's the worst she can do? Slap you? You're a man; you can take it. (Please don't push this too far. Third 'no' means 'no'.)

Step 5) Repeat as necessary until virginity subsides.:D

It's sooo easy for a woman to spout such things as 'sex is great, it's easy to find' blah blah blah. Of course it's easy to find for a woman. You go out, hit on the cutest guy in the bar, and 90% of the time he'll give you what you want.

Women have no idea on how hard it is for men these days.

I'm a guy.


And here's the reason I say sex is easy to find: Women want it just as much as men do. The only reason they play "hard to get" is because men are too easy to get! Think about it from a woman's point of view. Imagine you could find dozens of women who want to have sex with you everywhere you go. Would you make it easy for any one woman to get you into bed? Of course not! You'd bide your time and pick the one that you liked the most. And which one would that be? The one that's hardest to get!

You see, some women won't buy anything unless it's overpriced. And they select their men the same way they select their purses! The hardest one to get must be the best! Nevermind that a Wal-Mart bag is just as good as a Louis Vitton bag, and costs about 1/100th the price. Women all want the Louis Vitton bag anyway.

So, to get a woman to have sex with you, all you have to do is be the Louis Vitton bag. Be the guy who seems uninterested in her. Be the guy who has plenty of other options when it comes to women. Be the guy who knows how to have a good time, and smiles, and tells jokes, and is always happy about himself. Most importantly, be the guy who presents a challenge! People always want what they can't have.

Luis Vitton? Is he like Cassanova or something. So be smooth and foreign like and an artist as well.


Why is that people always want what they can't have anyway..If you know you can't have it wouldn't you give up after a while. And then you become a 35yo virgin asking yourself and everyone why is that the case. But sex..its like this overpowering hormone magnitizing force that messes up the thought process and usualy always at the worst moments..Why does at this age having sex becomes an almost blinding pursuit and there is no other option because your jokes fall flat and your starting to come across more desperate then nice..it just meanders into your thoughts and everthing else just hazes over for a while...next your hanging back in class fumblling about with papers and books before you make it for the door without being lead out by the pocket of your trousers. Damn these wonder years.

I'm a guy.


And here's the reason I say sex is easy to find: Women want it just as much as men do. The only reason they play "hard to get" is because men are too easy to get! Think about it from a woman's point of view. Imagine you could find dozens of women who want to have sex with you everywhere you go. Would you make it easy for any one woman to get you into bed? Of course not! You'd bide your time and pick the one that you liked the most. And which one would that be? The one that's hardest to get!
:rofl:

A little flaw in you logic there. Why would he pick just the one he liked the most when he could get them all if he's really that horny?


You see, some women won't buy anything unless it's overpriced. And they select their men the same way they select their purses! The hardest one to get must be the best! Nevermind that a Wal-Mart bag is just as good as a Louis Vitton bag, and costs about 1/100th the price. Women all want the Louis Vitton bag anyway.
:not:
Don't be a sexist retard.

It's the QUALITY that matters.


So, to get a woman to have sex with you, all you have to do is be the Louis Vitton bag. Be the guy who seems uninterested in her. Be the guy who has plenty of other options when it comes to women. Be the guy who knows how to have a good time, and smiles, and tells jokes, and is always happy about himself. Most importantly, be the guy who presents a challenge! People always want what they can't have.
Maybe women like someone who seems like they're interested in something about her other than the sexual potential. Ever think of that? :P

Geez this thread is old...

one more story to relate....

A friend of my wife is a beautiful and intellegent woman who is about 40. She was never married and is active in our church. She is rather proud of the fact that she never had sex with a man. She believes very strongly that sex should only be for after marriage and I really respect her for that.

Personally I find her a bit stubborn and headstrong, but otherwise I think a lot of men would find her desirable.

I dont see why it should be any different for men either.

Luis Vitton? Is he like Cassanova or something. So be smooth and foreign like and an artist as well.



Hello !!! Fashion squand against ignorants puts you under arrest !!! Louis Vuitton is one of the most luxurios brands of leather goods :mad: .

Here's my 2 cents on this specific issue: women have darn complicated bodies. It does not suffice to just hump 'em. You need to learn how to touch, how to caress, how to stroke, how to tease. Plus, every woman is different and likes you to do her differently.

in order to learn how to read her, there are two possible choices: spend a lot of time with her in bed and eventually you'll get it or see a number of women before, understand how the system works and then learn to adapt faster and maybe even keep the advantage.

Sexual compatiblity is important and chances for you to find the perfect one for you - the only one - are slim to none. God has little to do with it, it's physical.

i'm not gonna be soft. 35 is OLD, man. People have kids aged on 10, at 35. And how's "against your morals" to see a prostitute and yet having sex outside marriage is ok? Man, you've got a problem. It may not prevent you from living, from eating or from socialising, but you do have a problem.

You can say you'll have the courage to get a girl, but if you didn't at 20, how're you gonna do it at 35? What do you think women expect from a 35 years old? They have dealt with men's unsecurity all through their adolescence, all through their 20 and you're telling me being a 35 years old virgin is no big deal?

Well, sorry to break it to you, it is. Your choice.

:rofl:

A little flaw in you logic there. Why would he pick just the one he liked the most when he could get them all if he's really that horny?


Because men can be sexually satisfied, too. It just doesn't happen as often. But if women were as easy to get into bed as men are today, men would get satisfied and start raising their standards.


:not:
Don't be a sexist retard.


Who's being sexist here? I'm the one saying men and women both want sex just as much, and that men can be sexually satisfied just like women can.


It's the QUALITY that matters.

Maybe women like someone who seems like they're interested in something about her other than the sexual potential. Ever think of that? :P

:rolleyes: I always find it amusing when people get upset about hearing these sorts of things. I'm sorry if you don't like it, but that's just the way it is. It's human nature. Women and men both do it.

Why else would anybody ever pay $80,000 for a Mercedes? Can that car possibly deliver a driving experience that's SO MUCH BETTER than a Honda Accord that it's worth four times as much? No! It can't! But people buy them anyway, because they assume that the harder it is to get, the better it is to have.

Hhahaha all those remarks.
I was 28 before a woman de-virginited me.
Why so late???
My mothers fault,she caught me in the toilet with such a big smile, while I was riding the Horn of Africa.
Got the fright of my life and stayed a virgin,despite the women asking for a lift.
All I said was shhhssss baby,shhhsss baby,your time is not yet.
Then the hard disk became an instant floppy.

omg :eek: manfred :rofl:

Here's my 2 cents on this specific issue: women have darn complicated bodies. It does not suffice to just hump 'em. You need to learn how to touch, how to caress, how to stroke, how to tease. Plus, every woman is different and likes you to do her differently.


I call BS.
And not just to you...
To all the 'women are complicated' and 'there's a formula to getting a girl' statements.
To the 35 y.o. and to the 24 y.o....
IT'S YOU buddy.
You need to grow a pair, come out of the closet, learn to seal the deal, whatever it is...
IT'S YOU.
Maybe you just need to leave the house and stop trying to solve your problems on a message board and talk to an actual real live woman...
And you are not going to get every girl you talk to...
So don't make them out to be someone special when you don't even know them...
You will crash and burn many a time.
Girls (some, cause you can never say all) like sex as much as guys do.
And it's really not that hard to find a slut.
(And if you take offense to that, you are prob not the girl I'm talking about.)
Go out have a drink, loosen up and buy a girl a drink.
Then tell her you drive a porsche...

Go out have a drink, loosen up and buy a girl a drink.
Then tell her you drive a porsche...
I once said "You like porsches?":hiya:

"Sure, I like Porsches."

"What about reeallly decrepit old pickup trucks?":p

Lol, this really got her laughing...;)

I once said "You like porsches?":hiya:

"Sure, I like Porsches."

"What about reeallly decrepit old pickup trucks?":p

Lol, this really got her laughing...;)

Now that is an eye opener, I drive an Audi TT turbo and as soon as I say that, she wants to drive it thru town at max speed.
I do my nut and have cooled down to such an extend that I have lost all interest in her.
When she asked me after another few double Vodka and Coke what TT stands for
I say:" T one stands for teetotaller ,T two stands for trut(slut) and the turbo stands for a cracked fannygalore.

I call BS.
And not just to you...
To all the 'women are complicated' ...

Right, that's why gettin' them is as easy as if they grew up on trees :rolleyes: .

Now that is an eye opener, I drive an Audi TT turbo and as soon as I say that, she wants to drive it thru town at max speed.
I do my nut and have cooled down to such an extend that I have lost all interest in her.
When she asked me after another few double Vodka and Coke what TT stands for
I say:" T one stands for teetotaller ,T two stands for trut(slut) and the turbo stands for a cracked fannygalore.
Cool! What's it run on? Sentences?:p

Cool! What's it run on? Sentences?:p

Since petrol is so expensive I am trying out fermented horsemanure.:)

I have sentenced her to the back of my white try again book:D but certainly not with this:P

Now that is an eye opener, I drive an Audi TT turbo and as soon as I say that, she wants to drive it thru town at max speed.


That's the great thing about driving a motorcycle. 99% of girls don't know how to drive it themselves, so they need me to give them a ride, with their arms wrapped around my waist, of course :nice:

I call BS.
And not just to you...
To all the 'women are complicated' and 'there's a formula to getting a girl' statements.



Oh Bruddah.

Yes, most women come equipped with the same general equipment - but we are not machines. What turns on one doesn't work for another.

IMO, the best lovers communicate what they like, and inquire about their partners' desires in order to reciprocate.

Boe, we are obvioulsy wrong. Women are simple, uncomplicated, plain... which makes a little question arrise... how come that man didn't get one in 35 years?

'cause he's socially dysfunctional?

Naah, he has friends, goes out, isn't bad looking or ugly... plus, he's a man. And even socially dysfunctional men ... I mean we're talking about plain ol' simple, uncomplicated women !!! hw hard can it be to get one? surely you're mistaken, feenix!

How many socially dysfunctional people do you know who are aware of their own dysfunctionality and will admit it?

Such big word... socially dyfunctioned males... whatever happend to "get 'em druck and f*ck 'em?" :eyerolles:

*pouts* I know how you feel. I used to be a 17 year old virgin. Ok, so I don't know how you feel. but I can imagine it's pretty rough.

Here are my questions for you and I will maybe be able to help you based on your answers...

1) is there anybody that you're interested in?
2) something's gotta be holding you back, what do you think it is?
3) do you go out on dates at all?
4) If you go out on dates, how o they turn out at the end of the night?

Oh Bruddah.

Yes, most women come equipped with the same general equipment - but we are not machines. What turns on one doesn't work for another.

IMO, the best lovers communicate what they like, and inquire about their partners' desires in order to reciprocate.

The unpredictability in the female is part of her appeal really...

I completely agree with boe.

unpredictable and irrational are just two different ways of describing the same thing.

unpredictable and irrational are just two different ways of describing the same thing.

Not at all-it wouldnt be rational for women to act predictably in fact-men tend to marginalize their importance now...

unpredictable and irrational are just two different ways of describing the same thing.

Under no circumstances are men scared of women !! You underestimate yourself - you know, with them being so simple, plain and... irrational !!

Look, if anyone's still confused about this simple, natural process, there's an excellent instructional video to help you make sense of the sometimes complicated & messy realm of dating, sex & sensuality. Watch & learn:

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Right, that's why gettin' them is as easy as if they grew up on trees :rolleyes: .

It's easy to get a woman...
It's harder to find a woman worth keeping around.

And I think you and Boe completely missed my point...
All the 'women are complicated' and 'there's a formula to getting a girl' statements are simply copouts...
Excuses as to why this person can and that person cannot.
There is no system to getting the girl.
But if you make no effort you get no reward.
And a woman is not really that complicated, still just a person.
The women around this guy don't have the issues, this guy does...
And it's something only he can change, not you for him or any internet message board.

That is a totally different nuance, I have to say...

What does it mean that two weeks ago, I celebrated my 35th birthday and am still a virgin? What does it mean that I have never even kissed a woman and have only ever been on a couple dates.

I don't get it. I am not fat or ugly (6' 1" 170LB). I am actually a pretty normal looking guy. I have hobbies like hiking, reading, movies. I am intelligent, have a good job, and my own place. I can cook and clean and don't and in general take care of myself. Yes, I am a little on the quiet side, but I have friends who are the same way, and they manage to find girlfriends and have sex.

How can my life in this regard have so completely fallen through the cracks. And how do I even approach a woman (I have no problem doing this by the way) when I have this secret. Won't she run for the hills when she finds out? I need suggestions for dealing with this. Any ideas out there?

Oh, don't suggest a prostitute or something, that is just against my morals.
Whats up!- First of all ur life has not fallen through the cracks because u r a virgin.Virginity does not make u a loser, weirdo, or gay(though some on this web site will say other wise)! U sound nice- perhaps 2 nice, and nice gets u stuck in the dreaded FRIENDZONE! If u r the 1 that women talk 2 about THIER BOYFRIENDS, but U R NEVER THE BOYFRIEND, then u r in the friendzone! So am I!-unfortunately i sought out sleazy sex in place of love- i sure wish i hadnt! Anyway u must 1)realize u r not a loser 2)be confident,but not arrogant,about ur good qualities 3)wait for the right time 2 tell them-not 2 quickly,not when u r butt naked either! If u r confident about urself and stay out of the friendzone u should be ok!

Buy them drinks. One usually does it for me, but you may need to buy at least four.

Damn, I posted this and read it for a while, but figured it died a natural death. What is it still doing on this site. I am still a virgin, however many months later, and with no change in site, but you know what, I may not be Brad Pitt to look at, or the most charismatic person, but I kick ****ing ass. No seriously, I am the guy most women SHOULD wish they were with. So I am single and available still as long as women are oblivious to the quiet guy, the guy who won't screw them over and will treat them with repect and as a person with faults and issues, but ultimately loveable and forgivable. If that is too much to handle, go to hell.

so, tell about the time when you got closest to having sex. why didnt it happen? were you too nervous?

allso , dont worry so much about what others will think of you beeing a virgin. if you think its okay, thats all that counts,and if a women flips out over it, you should be looking for someone else anyway. just be honest about it, and dont feel bad about how you life goes.

I know what this guy is going through I am 45 years old and have never been with a woman, all women are *******s they sit and bitch about how they can't find nice guys who won't treat them like shit but yet they say I am too nice well **** YOU **** I hope the next guy beats the shit out of you and rapes the shit out of you and leaves you for DEAD all you ****ing ****s you all sit there in your Ivory towers passing judgement on people when most women are so ****ed up their lucky any guy even talks to them so next time I here some **** saying oh I want a bad boy well don't be surprised if he beats the shit out of you and cheats on you and gives you either HIV or aids *******s.:mad:

I know what this guy is going through I am 45 years old and have never been with a woman, all women are *******s they sit and bitch about how they can't find nice guys who won't treat them like shit but yet they say I am too nice well **** YOU **** I hope the next guy beats the shit out of you and rapes the shit out of you and leaves you for DEAD all you ****ing ****s you all sit there in your Ivory towers passing judgement on people when most women are so ****ed up their lucky any guy even talks to them so next time I here some **** saying oh I want a bad boy well don't be surprised if he beats the shit out of you and cheats on you and gives you either HIV or aids *******s.:mad:

**** you bitch you dont know what your talking about ****

:rolleyes: :corn:

:D

lol. what the hell?

:rofl:

What a cheerful newbie - reminds me of someone.

Severely retarded in interpersonal skills, sexually frustrated. It figures that this thread attracts...h.....

:barf:

But, aint we lucky that internet exists? Some situation those people can use to vent their feelings.

The day before yesterday I - using a new computer - was under the impression that the browser I installed to not have to use the best established product doesnt work well under the new Vista.
But in the evening I learned others had the same experience.

Imagine some Osama would attac the internet. Forums wouldn't work, chats wouldn't work.....

How many people would binge drink or eat instead, would beat up their wives, kids or pets, or would even commit suicide by running their cars into bridge posts....?

someone needs to get laid :p

What a cheerful newbie - reminds me of someone.

Severely retarded in interpersonal skills, sexually frustrated. It figures that this thread attracts...h.....

:barf:

I think just plain ol' severely retarded hits the mark.

I know what this guy is going through I am 45 years old and have never been with a woman, all women are *******s they sit and bitch about how they can't find nice guys who won't treat them like shit but yet they say I am too nice well **** YOU **** I hope the next guy beats the shit out of you and rapes the shit out of you and leaves you for DEAD all you ****ing ****s you all sit there in your Ivory towers passing judgement on people when most women are so ****ed up their lucky any guy even talks to them so next time I here some **** saying oh I want a bad boy well don't be surprised if he beats the shit out of you and cheats on you and gives you either HIV or aids *******s.:mad:

Wow. Just wow.

It's a mystery to me why Mr. whybother hasn't had much luck with women. :scratch:


:rofl:

Hey Feenix, what do ya think of women anyway..... ;-))

To be more precise: Do you really think money wouldn't make up for all else for many women???????

To be more precise: Do you really think money wouldn't make up for all else for many women???????

Money is a road to happiness. If you make yourself unhappy in your pursuit of money, you defeat the purpose. Most women are smart enough to realize that all the money in the world can't make up for a shitty personality.

You have a positive opinion about women. Thank you.
And I'm glad that probably derives from positive experience. Good for you!

It's a mystery to me why Mr. whybother hasn't had much luck with women. :scratch:


pretty ****in obvious to me. I think he may be getting rejected by his hand too. With an attitude like that, who would bother?

**** YOU ****

??? :eek7:

You people think you know anything I bet most of you are just opinionated *******s that I'm sure your friends would agree and they just let you spout your foolishness so you go on the web were no one can see you and start spitting out advice that at the minimum is just utter bullshit you people should record yourselves and see how really stupid you all are. again I reiterate all women are ****s that should get the shit beat out of them when they do something stupid rape would be better and if its done right it should render the woman unable to have kids because she is to stupid to raise them.:mad:

again I reiterate all women are ****s that should get the shit beat out of them when they do something stupid rape would be better and if its done right it should render the woman unable to have kids because she is to stupid to raise them.:mad:
Uh huh... I don't think so.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/ytteB/stuff%20for%20boards/banhammer.jpg

Originally Posted by whybother
again I reiterate all women are ****s that should get the shit beat out of them when they do something stupid rape would be better and if its done right it should render the woman unable to have kids because she is to stupid to raise them.

Someone needs to get laaaaiiiddddddd.


Dude, women aren't the nicest, but neither are guys. Sure there are songs out there about how evil women can be but c'mon. Outside of relationships they aren't devil spawn who feast on the flesh of blind puppies. They're people.

Oftentimes women who reject the "too nice" do so because of WHY they're so nice. Insecure? Overly needy? As a former "Nice Guy" myself trust me, I know.

And not all women sit around in sweat pants watching Oprah eating Ben and Jerry's discussing how they can't find the perfect guy. The ones who do are insecure themselves. Just like the overly nice, sometimes creepy, guys.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m11/aaronbearden/pwned.jpg

Why bother why bother at all? You're doomed. You will never find happiness in the arms of a woman. You will never know what it is like to be truly appreciated, loved and groped and to enjoy the pleasure of reciprocation. Thank god I will never be with an attitude like yours, much less writing a "I am a 35 y.o virgin with a ****ed up view of women. You will become a bitter shrivelled up shell with a serious case of eternal blueballs.

PWND cat si good

You people think you know anything I bet most of you are just opinionated *******s that I'm sure your friends would agree and they just let you spout your foolishness so you go on the web were no one can see you and start spitting out advice that at the minimum is just utter bullshit you people should record yourselves and see how really stupid you all are. again I reiterate all women are ****s that should get the shit beat out of them when they do something stupid rape would be better and if its done right it should render the woman unable to have kids because she is to stupid to raise them.:mad:


daaaaamn.... Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

daaaaamn.... Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

I think maybe he tried and got rejected. :|

http://www.vidmax.com/index.php/videos/view/657

http://www.vidmax.com/index.php/videos/view/657


OK, Toyota has that site blocked. they put it in a category.....Pornography.

Nope, not porno.
They have a couple of ads with undies, but that's about it.

Nope, not porno.
They have a couple of ads with undies, but that's about it.

GODDAMN TOYOTA!!! :shakefist :mad:

Dude, it's totally messed up too. You're so missing out. I think I found out who whybother really is.

Dude, it's totally messed up too. You're so missing out. I think I found out who whybother really is.

WHO!!! :eek:

You're just gonna have to wait to get home and see. :D

:shakefist

I do not subscribe to what whybother said. Stupid mysoginist.
My view of women is that they are just people. Perhaps part of the problem is that I just mostly want to screw the daylights out of a hot woman and then move on, as opposed to having a relationship.
I know some of my problem is that I am too nice at times and then not very nice at others. I come across as shy and lacking in confidence.

Lets get this thread back on track people. What specific steps should a guy who isn't ugly, but is very introverted take to develop some game and create attraction, instead of being the invisible man.

Start conversations with everyone you meet. Man or woman, young or old, fat or skinny, hot or not... you get the point. Get used to talking to complete strangers. Then when you meet a girl you want to talk to, you won't feel uncomfortable doing it.

Feenix, your luis vuitton post was totally on point. :nice:

Anyway, MBV. This isn't so much of a problem of being "nice" as it is a problem of weakness. You can be nice and get laid all you want as long as you have strength and confidence.

You say you just want hot sex and no relationship, so how about telling them that? Tell them exactly that. "I'm not interested in a relationship right now, I only have time for a physical one." Feenix mentioned that women want sex just as much as men do, and it's really true. And a lot of them also just want sex and not a relationship. Talk to 50 girls and you'll find at least one, garaunteed. There's a lot of horny women out there, and they want you to approach them.

Being a virgin really isn't an obstacle. The choice is yours really if you want to reveal that or not. If a girl doesn't want to sleep with you because you're a virgin, ask her if she'll set you up with one of her friends to devirginize you and you'll set her up with some guy who's banged lots of chicks in exchange. I mean, who gives a shit?

Stop thinking about having to "do stuff" to create attraction, as you put it. Sexual attraction is a response, an unconscious one and it's really more of a result of what you're not doing than what you are doing. It took me a while to realize that. Stop caring about whether or not a girl likes you. It's a waste of energy, not your problem, and completely unproductive. This will solve 99% of your problems.

Sexual attraction is a response, an unconscious one and it's really more of a result of what you're not doing than what you are doing. It took me a while to realize that. Stop caring about whether or not a girl likes you. It's a waste of energy, not your problem, and completely unproductive. This will solve 99% of your problems.

well put.

I'm 27 and plan to lead a life of celibacy. It's amusing to see the reactions of people when the topic comes up.

What does it mean that two weeks ago, I celebrated my 35th birthday and am still a virgin? What does it mean that I have never even kissed a woman and have only ever been on a couple dates.



It means that you are 36 1/2 years now a probably still a virgin.

Virgins rock. :rock:

What does it mean that I am a 19 1/2 year old virgin? :|

What does it mean that I am a 19 1/2 year old virgin? :|Nothing.

Wooo.......! :D

I wasn't going to share this, but since the thread is still alive, I thought I would kill it by letting everyone know that I am no longer a virgin.

The story itself is interesting, so while I won't provide info on the act, the stuff leading up to and after I will.

The weekend before last, I went to visit my brother who was having a party. We run with different people, so I didn't know anyone there except him and his girlfriend. After being there a while, I eventually ended up with a group that was hanging out drinking wine in a room off from where the main group was. It was a group of five of us. Among the group was a really pretty brunette. The whole group was chatting and slowly, people started leaving the group. Eventually it was just me, and this girl. I was actually tired at that point and so was just kind of sitting there vegetating. It wasn't even occurring to me that I should talk to this girl. I started to say something and then noticed that her eyes were closed and she seemed to be asleep. Thinking my chance to talk to her was over, I started to get up and leave, but her eyes opened. I said something like "tired, huh." She said "yeah." I sat back down in the chair. We started talking some, and eventually I asked what she did for work. She said she was a receptionist at a medical office and a part time actress. I tried to persue the actress thing but she gave me a funny look as I did and seem to not want to discuss it. The conversation went on for another minute or two. I got up and said it was nice to meet you but as I turned around she ask if I was teasing or if I really didn't know what kind of actress she was. As it turns out, she is a porn actress (she has only done three films). I not wanting to watch other people have sex while I don't get any, stay away from porn. Apparently most of the oher people there knew she did this, including my brother and that I why she figured I knew. I started asking questions about it. She answered them. So I did something dumb, I started asking questions about sex. I thought my questions were advanced enough. But after the fourth of fifth one, she blurts out, "Damn, what are you a virgin?" I got embarrassed and when I get embarrassed I blush really badly. I said no. Then she says you are blushing, holys$%T it's true isn't it. You're a virgin. I way so mortified but I couldn't think of a believable enough lie, and since I don't know anyone at the party except my brother who knows my status I figured, what the heck, lets see what happens if I admit the truth.

She is shocked and starts asking me questions about how and why. Eventually, her curiosity waned and we parted company. We hung out in different areas of the house for the rest of the party. Eventually as I was looking for my brother to let him know I was heading to bed in his spare bedroom, I ran into this girl. She walked with me to my bedroom. Then she actually walked it the room with me and shut the door. She seemed nervous then she mumbled something that sounded like "I cannot believe I am doing this" and kissed me. I was so shocked I pulled away and asked what are you doing. She said, I wouldn't normally do this, but the idea of dflowering a virgin made me really horny. At those words, my heart started beating like it was going to pop out of my chest, I got dizzy and had to sit down on the bed. She said something about I better get myself together before she changes her mind.

Shortly thereafter, we did the act.

Post act thoughts:

Maybe it was just because I had no idea what I was doing, but it seemed completely over rated. THAT is what I have been waiting for. To be honest, I got more enjoyment when she let me just hold and kiss her afterwards than it the act. Actually she stayed the night and slept next to me and then took a shower with me the next morning, these too were actually more gratifying.

This has been a long post so I will cut the remaining details out. I have not seen or spoken to her since, which is what I expected to happen. The only real difference I notice is a bit of a feeling of relief that I don't have to hide my virgin status from an actual woman that I could have a relationship with.

You're out of the club. Please turn in your membership and any virgin related paraphernalia. :nonono:

Well looks to me u r in a dilemma. Let me tell you if you think that you have lacking something in you just because you could not manage to lure a woman in all these years then there is nothing to be disheartened. Again if you have the desire to approach a woman and this is your priority then you have to build up that confidence in yourself so that you can manage to do so. This has to be done by yourself only as we can only suggest. So build up your confidence and head towards your mission, and dont be disheartened if you get refused initially.

How would you pose such a question to a woman, anyway?

"Excuse me, Miss... I was wondering if you could help me with something?"

I'm 27 and plan to lead a life of celibacy. It's amusing to see the reactions of people when the topic comes up.

Mr. E, I was just curious... Do schizoids have some sort of an erectile dysfunction?:|

Not really. Sexual aversion and low libido appear to be fairly common traits of Schizoids, and are likely symptoms of the broader 'disorder' of reduced affectivity.

Although, to paraphrase Data, we are fully functional, and programmed with a wide variety of techniques...