Soon, the violence of the last two weeks will be seen as the opening of an event of world-historic significance.

Even when the current violence subsides — even when the French government attempts to placate its radical Muslim population by offering more welfare benefits and programs — it will not be the end of the story. A new benchmark of the possible will have been established. The flaccid and timorous response of the French government will only increase the radicalizing Muslim elements' contempt for Western cultural weakness.

As Paul Belien, writing from Brussels this weekend, observed: "It is not anger that is driving the insurgents to take it out on the secularized welfare states of Old Europe. It is hatred. Hatred caused not by injustice suffered, but stemming from a sense of superiority. The 'youths' do not blame the French, they despise them." As Mr. Belien reports, look what a typical radical Muslim leader, Dyab Abou Jahjah, the leader of the Brussels-based Arab European League, says: "We reject integration when it leads to assimilation. I don't believe in a host country. We are at home here and whatever we consider our culture to be also belongs to our chosen country. I'm in my country, not the country of the Westerners." Or consider the statement of a German radical Islamist that I recounted in my book (based on a National Public Radio news-story broadcast): "Germany is an Islamic country. Islam is in the home, in schools. Germans will be outnumbered. We [Muslims] will say what we want. We'll live how we want. It's outrageous that Germans demand we speak their language. Our children will have our language, our laws, our culture" (The West's Last Chance, page 75).

http://www.washingtontimes.com/op-ed/tblankley.htm

Multi-Kult just keeps getting better and better :nice:

Germany has no free speech laws. It's strictly controlled what can and cannot be said. It's so bad they even banned the swastika, even from history books! They even think that 6 million Jews died in concentration camps! Brainwashing at it's worst.

Multiculturalism and assimilation only work when people WANT to be assimilated.

The Muslims DONT WANT to be assimilated.

Letting a fox into a hen house doesn't turn the fox into a chicken. And he certainly won't 'cluck' like a chicken, either.

The Germans were aware of the problem before the Americans..

Our PC governments continue to allow them to invade. What the hell is going on? :confused:

They even think that 6 million Jews died in concentration camps! Brainwashing at it's worst.

Brainwashing indeed..
:nonono:

Germany doesnt have this cultural mix to contend with.there are different religious and political beliefs but still it's not the mass chaos we have here-America is more of a threat to Germany's cultural identity than Islam.

Multiculturalism and assimilation only work when people WANT to be assimilated.- Actually it works rather badly when people want to be assimilated, because that makes them try to emulate the majority culture - and since they can't possibly be as good at that as the natives, they tend to be seen as inferiors.

The best solution seems to be some sort of integration - where the minority people keep the main bit of their culture, but still follow the law and make friends that are part of the majority, but that requires respect, openness and effort on both sides.

In other words, it's people like Thumper, Snouter and McKay on all sides who make integration difficult.

libertarian solution: don't force anything on anyone.

- immigrants not invited on the false pretense that they would 'fit in'
- no riots
- etc.

Just a quick question thats been confusing me. Its not based on fact but observation, so please feel free to correct me.

What is the major difference between american muslims, and european muslims? Here, it is not just rare to see an arab on welfare, its rare to find any who arent self employed and quite successfull. Is it that the European arabs are lazy, or that we have many better opportunities or what? These riots are being held by huge numbers of arabs who live in deplorable conditions, have no money, and a welfare system they feel inadequate. Why is it the conditions here are so different that the arabs have no grounds for the same type of riot?

what a rediculous article.

for one thing, countries in europe arent trying to assimilate anybody. thats what the borg do. we call it intergration, which means that you live together in a society, but can be whatever you wnat to be. thats freedom, and Id figure you americans would understand that better that most. only facist countries tell people what and who they must be.

and the arab league is NOT and extremist muslim organisation. they are exactly what the name sais, a european muslim organisation. they are the voice of belgiums muslims, who are baltantly discriminated in the city where this organisation originates from, Antwerpen. (as iyou might know, in Antwerpen, the majority vote goes to a party called falmish interest, who have leaders who used to like to visit Blood and honor meetings, which is a neo-nazi skinhead thing)
any strong language the EAL might come with, must be seen in that light.
and for the rest tehre is nothing wrong with that quote they made, in the article.

the other quote is appelling, but in no way the voice of muslims in europe or germany.
the article is bigotted and shows that the writer has no insite whatshowever in the situation here. hes not talking about mislim, but about extremists, and makes sure teh article will gie iyou the impression he IS talking about muslims in general.

:werd: what a rediculous article.

for one thing, countries in europe arent trying to assimilate anybody. thats what the borg do. we call it intergration, which means that you live together in a society, but can be whatever you wnat to be. thats freedom, and Id figure you americans would understand that better that most. only facist countries tell people what and who they must be.

and the arab league is NOT and extremist muslim organisation. they are exactly what the name sais, a european muslim organisation. they are the voice of belgiums muslims, who are baltantly discriminated in the city where this organisation originates from, Antwerpen. (as iyou might know, in Antwerpen, the majority vote goes to a party called falmish interest, who have leaders who used to like to visit Blood and honor meetings, which is a neo-nazi skinhead thing)
any strong language the EAL might come with, must be seen in that light.
and for the rest tehre is nothing wrong with that quote they made, in the article.

the other quote is appelling, but in no way the voice of muslims in europe or germany.
the article is bigotted and shows that the writer has no insite whatshowever in the situation here. hes not talking about mislim, but about extremists, and makes sure teh article will gie iyou the impression he IS talking about muslims in general.

Yea Oki, people just need to accept the fact that because someone else is different that does not mean they are less human than you are.

European nations have lower birth rates than middle eastern countries so it might be necessary to bring in guest workers. I see nothing wrong with it.

Most of what was said by the muslims in the article was most likely taken out of context, misunderstood, lost in translation or so forth, so I try not to take every statement at face value . The comment about it being absurd for the muslims to be expected to learn the official language of the host country however, I both believe , and find despicable. Anyone planning on moving to a new country had damn well better take the time neded to start learning the host countries language. It is not too much to ask.

Just a quick question thats been confusing me. Its not based on fact but observation, so please feel free to correct me.

What is the major difference between american muslims, and european muslims? Here, it is not just rare to see an arab on welfare, its rare to find any who arent self employed and quite successfull. Is it that the European arabs are lazy, or that we have many better opportunities or what? These riots are being held by huge numbers of arabs who live in deplorable conditions, have no money, and a welfare system they feel inadequate. Why is it the conditions here are so different that the arabs have no grounds for the same type of riot?
europena arabs have come here to WORK. so thats what they do. the older generations have slaved themselves in our factories for decades and are often no longer capable to work, phisically. and in this country its basically impossible to get welfare without beeing forced to look for jobs, and accept jobs (whatever job). unlike the US , where thats much easyer.
these peopel are not lazy at all. the younger generations simply cant find jobs, even when very educated, because of racist/bigoted attitudes.
and its not a huge number of arabs that riot, its small groups of (criminal or religously motivated) young people from ghettos(not just muslims) that riot.
and the population of tehse neigbourhoods doesnt even support them, how could they, they are destroying schools and cars and personal property, ins unsafe now to go out at night, there are parent patrols beeing set up right now to try to control teh behaviour of their kids, etc.

Crim, saying that european countries have lower birth rates than middle eastern countries isn't a statement that in and of itself means they need to import laborers. In a society where it isn't uncommon to have multiple wives, you can be sure the husband is spreading the seed around an awefull lot. The middle east is one of the most populated areas in the world.

Multiculturalism and assimilation only work when people WANT to be assimilated.

The Muslims DONT WANT to be assimilated.

Letting a fox into a hen house doesn't turn the fox into a chicken. And he certainly won't 'cluck' like a chicken, either. noone wants to be assimilated. muslims everywhere in europe are trying like hell to intergrate, to live their lives in europe, their children are born here, and ARE european. when youre not accepted in the society you try to live in, you start to hang on to your own identity more. its a perfectly normal reaction, that anybody would have, not just muslims. islam is a religon, which has a strong identity, and rules. but thats all it is, a religon. when these kinds go to their host countries, for family visits, or holidays, then they are seen as foreigners there. europeans. their behaviour and identity has very little to do with those countries anymore.

europena arabs have come here to WORK. so thats what they do. the older generations have slaved themselves in our factories for decades and are often no longer capable to work, phisically. and in this country its basically impossible to get welfare without beeing forced to look for jobs, and accept jobs (whatever job). unlike the US , where thats much easyer.
these peopel are not lazy at all. the younger generations simply cant find jobs, even when very educated, because of racist/bigoted attitudes.
and its not a huge number of arabs that riot, its small groups of (criminal or religously motivated) young people from ghettos(not just muslims) that riot.
and the population of tehse neigbourhoods doesnt even support them, how could they, they are destroying schools and cars and personal property, ins unsafe now to go out at night, there are parent patrols beeing set up right now to try to control teh behaviour of their kids, etc.

Thanks for the opinion. Everything i had seen was suggesting that it was predominatly arab rioters, with various other races youths in smaller numbers. As far as the welfare comment, it doesnt sound too different from over here. if you apply for benefits from welfare, you have to demonstrate that you are searching for jobs, and get the sheet signed off on by potential employers. The amount of pay you are allowed to hold off and wait till you find is basically like 70 percent of you average salary the last job you worked at.

By the way, sorry if i am making very little sense, my pain killers are kicking me in the butt, so i am sure I am rambling, if not now, then i will be later.. :D

Crim, saying that european countries have lower birth rates than middle eastern countries isn't a statement that in and of itself means they need to import laborers. In a society where it isn't uncommon to have multiple wives, you can be sure the husband is spreading the seed around an awefull lot. The middle east is one of the most populated areas in the world. european muslims are mainly from marocco, turkye , algiers, tunesia. non of these countries allow multiple wives. tehir birthrate is high because these countries are poor. so is eastern europe.

and if we dont import labourers, we cant pay for social programs anymore, this is a fact. we need to house and feed our elderly.

how would not importing laborers stop you from paying for social programs, I thought it would be the opposite, with less to support, your social services would have more money to spend on the elderly and infirm

by the way, not trying to argue or anything, just a little drugged, so the words might not be coming out right. I am just curious, as i know little about these issues over seas.

Thanks for the opinion. Everything i had seen was suggesting that it was predominatly arab rioters, with various other races youths in smaller numbers. As far as the welfare comment, it doesnt sound too different from over here. if you apply for benefits from welfare, you have to demonstrate that you are searching for jobs, and get the sheet signed off on by potential employers. The amount of pay you are allowed to hold off and wait till you find is basically like 70 percent of you average salary the last job you worked at.

By the way, sorry if i am making very little sense, my pain killers are kicking me in the butt, so i am sure I am rambling, if not now, then i will be later.. :D you make enough sense. :)
here welfare is set at an absolute minimum, no 70%, only phisically disabled people get 70%. a friend of mine, from teh US, has severe back problems, and can easyly go abroad for 6 months and still get payed. here, this person whould be forced to work less hours, and do jobs that arent phisical. in amserdam, young people are no longer geting any money at all, only **** jobs. works quite well, btw, they then prefer to look themselves.

and maybe it is mainly muslims, because the communities are mainly muslim, but the anger in these young people has little to do with religon, and more with poverty and no prospect. ive seen a lot of black people on footage on the news, rioting.

how would not importing laborers stop you from paying for social programs, I thought it would be the opposite, with less to support, your social services would have more money to spend on the elderly and infirm
the immigrants are here to work, and thats what they do. otherwise there would be no point. sure they allso use the benefits, but thats only a small part of it. people dont come here to get welfare and do nothing, thats a distorted image.

Glad yall make welfare folks work as well. Thats basically how Texas is. i qualify as disabled due to my back, but if I were to file for disability, I would be required to work some light duty non physical job. Instead i live off the interest from my my investment accounts each month, and my army disability check, and the income from my business. It is easier for me to do that first off, and secondly, i hate wasting money I dont need. That would just mean someone who wasnt ok enough to live in retirement wasnt able to get the money.

I have seen only small clips of the riot footage, nothing longer than a minute or so, so I am not familiar with the demographics of the rioters. Is it possible the blacks you mentioned were also dark skinned arabs, or do you lean more towards african and other nationality blacks?

I will make this the last ? i know it has to be annoying as hell. I just dont trust myself to research these issues tonight, since I cant see straight..lol

Glad yall make welfare folks work as well. Thats basically how Texas is. i qualify as disabled due to my back, but if I were to file for disability, I would be required to work some light duty non physical job. Instead i live off the interest from my my investment accounts each month, and my army disability check, and the income from my business. It is easier for me to do that first off, and secondly, i hate wasting money I dont need. That would just mean someone who wasnt ok enough to live in retirement wasnt able to get the money.

I have seen only small clips of the riot footage, nothing longer than a minute or so, so I am not familiar with the demographics of the rioters. Is it possible the blacks you mentioned were also dark skinned arabs, or do you lean more towards african and other nationality blacks?

I will make this the last ? i know it has to be annoying as hell. I just dont trust myself to research these issues tonight, since I cant see straight..lol
hey its okay man. I dont mind at all.
they could be darkskinned arabs, but france has ha dcolonies in more parts of africa, and have a lot of african immigrants. but besides that, I saw mostly guys dressed as gang members. I doubt these peopel who set fire to schools etc are very religous at all.
and its good that you can still support yourself. btw if youd have suh possibilities here, your application for welfare would be refused. they make you show all your income sources first.

I have a question:

1. Are Europeans on crack, or do they really believe that it's good for them to have so much radical muslim immigration? Do they really believe that muslims (if they are in huge amounts) will want to integrate with them infidels, and not try to make the country "more islamic"? I completely don't understand why people with barbaric culture that are obviously do NOT want to change are allowed in the first place. It has nothing to do with them being Arabs. I have nothing against secular, Christian, or even not-very-religious muslim arabs, however they should DEFINATELY keep the fundemental muslims OUT!!

2. Welfare>? These people are f#ckin' immigrants, they came here SUPPOSEDLY to work, right, what kind of morons would give them welfare, and for what? What's the point of it at all? More money wasted? If they want welfare and don't like it there, why don't they move back where they belong? :nonono:

3. Why isn't Europe kicking the trouble makers and the radical people out, whenever it is necessary?

4. Do the dumb Europeans really believe that once not a minority, muslims would allow their countries to have liberal values such as abortion, gay rights, alcohol rights, drug rights, women rights, or ANYTHING liberal? Once radical muslims gain REAL power there, these countries would be too conservative for even Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. :p WAKE UP!!

1. Are Europeans on crack, or do they really believe that it's good for them to have so much radical muslim immigration? Do they really believe that muslims (if they are in huge amounts) will want to integrate with them infidels, and not try to make the country "more islamic"?- Most immigrants do want to integrate or even assimilate - and most immigrants aren't a problem either. But all too often they get problems like I mentioned in my previous post or the like.

How else do you explain that local integration-promoting programs never have any trouble finding immigrants who want to integrate, but don't seem to find enough Norwegians who want to help?

I completely don't understand why people with barbaric culture that are obviously do NOT want to change are allowed in the first place. It has nothing to do with them being Arabs. I have nothing against secular, Christian, or even not-very-religious muslim arabs, however they should DEFINATELY keep the fundemental muslims OUT!!- How could you effectively tell the difference?

2. Welfare>? These people are f#ckin' immigrants, they came here SUPPOSEDLY to work, right- Most of the immigrants that have problems are refugees, i.e. people who've fled some horror in the country they come from. They're some times given insufficient help in processing trauma and other problems they may have.

, what kind of morons would give them welfare, and for what? What's the point of it at all? More money wasted? If they want welfare and don't like it there, why don't they move back where they belong? :nonono:- So you are a racial nationalist! Strange that it took me so long to find out. Or maybe you've been changing....

3. Why isn't Europe kicking the trouble makers and the radical people out, whenever it is necessary?- Which country would you be refering to? Unlike USAians, we europeans aren't all alike :p

- Most immigrants do want to integrate or even assimilate - and most immigrants aren't a problem either. But all too often they get problems like I mentioned in my previous post or the like.

Then why most of them don't become liberal and secular, but rather push their values on Europeans?? If they wanted to integrate, they would start acting like Europeans and obviously try harder.

How else do you explain that local integration-promoting programs never have any trouble finding immigrants who want to integrate, but don't seem to find enough Norwegians who want to help?

I never heard of that...however, how can you explain the fact that most muslim immigrants don't try to become like the rest of Europeans and instead Europe is becoming only more muslim?

Look at France right now... :rolleyes:

- How could you effectively tell the difference?

VERY EASY!!

A normal Arab person, who acts, dresses, looks just like the rest of us. Somebody that you couldn't even tell what religion he is.

A radical muslim who looks like ossama-bin laden, has 5 wives with him (that all dress like arafat) and looks like somebody who doesn't look foward towards integration and religious freedom.

- Most of the immigrants that have problems are refugees, i.e. people who've fled some horror in the country they come from.

If it was true, so many of them wouldn't try to make Europe become like arab muslim countries. :not:

They're some times given insufficient help in processing trauma and other problems they may have.

Nobody owes nothing to them. They need to appreciate whatever they can get. When I came to America, I didn't expect nothing from anybody, and neither should anybody else. :rolleyes:

- So you are a racial nationalist! Strange that it took me so long to find out. Or maybe you've been changing....

Hell no, didn't you read earlier that I said I DON'T care about their race, or them being Arabs. I do care about culture though, not all cultures are equal, as opposed to races.

I absolutely don't care if decent Arab people who are secular, christian or muslim (but not very religious) move whereever they want to. I do want Islamic (and other) fanatics out though!! You see, fundemental muslims is NOT the same as Arabs. In fact, not all muslims are arabs, and not all arabs are muslims. Learn your facts. Yes, I have a HUGE problem with radical Islam, and since I'm against racial nationalism and I believe in human equality, I expect all of those people to change their ways and become civilized just like the rest of us, or stay in muslim countries, that's all. And I'm against welfare to most people (unless disabled) anyways, but that's because I'm libertarian, and I don't believe in socialism.



Which country would you be refering to? Unlike USAians, we europeans aren't all alike

Well, as soon as Islamic laws will start to take their place in France and other countries, I'm gonna laugh at Europeans very hard. As soon as women, gays, minorities, non-muslims will be discriminated against, and eventually be treated like total sh!t at the best...I'll laugh at them. You guys let all kinds of sh!t in, and then when the sh!t causes troubles you tolerate it. Well, you guys deserve to live in sh!t then. I hardly even feel sorry for the French right now...they are getting what was comming for a long long time.

However, I would like to see white racists and radical muslims fight between each other and eventually just kill each other, that would be my perfect world. Nazis and radical relgious bigots destroying each other, what a wonderful world it would be!!!!! :D

I have a question:

1. Are Europeans on crack, or do they really believe that it's good for them to have so much radical muslim immigration? Do they really believe that muslims (if they are in huge amounts) will want to integrate with them infidels, and not try to make the country "more islamic"? I completely don't understand why people with barbaric culture that are obviously do NOT want to change are allowed in the first place. It has nothing to do with them being Arabs. I have nothing against secular, Christian, or even not-very-religious muslim arabs, however they should DEFINATELY keep the fundemental muslims OUT!!

2. Welfare>? These people are f#ckin' immigrants, they came here SUPPOSEDLY to work, right, what kind of morons would give them welfare, and for what? What's the point of it at all? More money wasted? If they want welfare and don't like it there, why don't they move back where they belong? :nonono:

3. Why isn't Europe kicking the trouble makers and the radical people out, whenever it is necessary?

4. Do the dumb Europeans really believe that once not a minority, muslims would allow their countries to have liberal values such as abortion, gay rights, alcohol rights, drug rights, women rights, or ANYTHING liberal? Once radical muslims gain REAL power there, these countries would be too conservative for even Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. :p WAKE UP!!http://pichold.com/Images/Smilies/mswerd.gif

besides, weren't these people supposed to be guest workers? implying they agreed to leave after they do their job? :shrug:

Ganja, I am sorry to point this out, but like half your senteces had double negatives in them, which in actuality mean that you support radical islamic fanatics moving to europe. That is all.

Ganja, I am sorry to point this out, but like half your senteces had double negatives in them, which in actuality mean that you support radical islamic fanatics moving to europe. That is all.don't forget the punctuation.

the liberal wet dream of a Greater Yugoslavia on the European continent is finally coming home to roost. :o

how would not importing laborers stop you from paying for social programs, I thought it would be the opposite, with less to support, your social services would have more money to spend on the elderly and infirm

The real question is "Is it Worth the Effort and Expense ?".

The guest workers provide the gov't some tax income. But they also cost the gov't some funds expended (transportation infrastructure, more police to serve more people, additional education facilities, prison space, firefighters, public services in multiple languages, etc).

The bottom line is ... Do these guest workers represent a net benefit to the country ? Or a net loss to the country ? Most articles I've read have shown that these 'guest workers' are a net loss.

If the gov't acts in such a way that they remove a net loss, they end up better off than before. So they *should* remove those guest workers and send them packing. Because it's to their ADVANTAGE to do so. Not because they are racist and HATE them. It's simply financially beneficial to have a mono-ethnic nation.



BTW, I've not even mentioned the social costs of crimes commited by both sides. Violence has it own costs, both in property destoryed and lives traumatized (or lost). These 'costs' can be reduced or eliminated by separation of ethnic groups. And since Germany is normally inhabited by Germans ... anyone else can pack up and leave.

dismantle the pyramid scheme known as 'welfare democracy' (socialism) and you don't have to worry about importing people to pay into the 'system'

But thumper, that would require people to ... *gasp* ... work for a lving.

And we both know that some groups of people simply are opposed to that. It's racist to expect people to work for what they 'earn'.

ganja:I absolutely don't care if decent Arab people who are secular, christian or muslim (but not very religious) move whereever they want to. I do want Islamic (and other) fanatics out though!! this is what the attitude in europe is, so I hav no idea what youre talking about, for the rest. radical muslims have ben thrown out, are under investigation, or locked up. but the thing is, they first have to actually do something, before you do such things. which is a normal way to handle it, in any non-facist state. for the rest, the groups that commit attacks here in europe, consist of young muslims who are born here, and have a european passport. you cant throw your own citizens out. again, normal in a non-facist state.

Then why most of them don't become liberal and secular, but rather push their values on Europeans?? If they wanted to integrate, they would start acting like Europeans and obviously try harder.- No no, integration, not assimilation. I explained the trouble with assimilation earlier, but since repeating myself is so easy on a computer I'll do that:

"Actually it works rather badly when people want to be assimilated, because that makes them try to emulate the majority culture - and since they can't possibly be as good at that as the natives, they tend to be seen as inferiors.

The best solution seems to be some sort of integration - where the minority people keep the main bit of their culture, but still follow the law and make friends that are part of the majority, but that requires respect, openness and effort on both sides.

In other words, it's people like Thumper, Snouter and McKay on all sides who make integration difficult."

I never heard of that...however, how can you explain the fact that most muslim immigrants don't try to become like the rest of Europeans and instead Europe is becoming only more muslim?- You don't just radically change your ethnicity by snapping your fingers :eek7:

And, like I keep saying, I don't see how that should be a goal at all.

Look at France right now... :rolleyes: - Yep, second generation immigrants are acting up.

The first generation ones tried to assimilated, but the problems related to assimilation, in addition to discrimination and racism made them feel segregation was a better option.

So they segregated, the lines got deeper, they were treated like **** by the authorities, and then the second generation ones decided to get back to their roots, got treated worse and then it all blew up.

In spite of this, at least in Norway, non-western immigrants tend to get better integrated every passing generation.

VERY EASY!!

A normal Arab person, who acts, dresses, looks just like the rest of us. Somebody that you couldn't even tell what religion he is.

A radical muslim who looks like ossama-bin laden, has 5 wives with him (that all dress like arafat) and looks like somebody who doesn't look foward towards integration and religious freedom.- Ah, you are joking?

Nobody owes nothing to them. They need to appreciate whatever they can get. When I came to America, I didn't expect nothing from anybody, and neither should anybody else. :rolleyes: - I never said anyone owed anything to anyone. But letting people with severe mental problems walk around untreated is asking for trouble!

Hell no, didn't you read earlier that I said I DON'T care about their race, or them being Arabs. I do care about culture though, not all cultures are equal, as opposed to races.

I absolutely don't care if decent Arab people who are secular, christian or muslim (but not very religious) move whereever they want to. I do want Islamic (and other) fanatics out though!! You see, fundemental muslims is NOT the same as Arabs. In fact, not all muslims are arabs, and not all arabs are muslims. Learn your facts. Yes, I have a HUGE problem with radical Islam, and since I'm against racial nationalism and I believe in human equality, I expect all of those people to change their ways and become civilized just like the rest of us, or stay in muslim countries, that's all.- In more clear terms, I might agree with you.

Well, as soon as Islamic laws will start to take their place in France and other countries, I'm gonna laugh at Europeans very hard. As soon as women, gays, minorities, non-muslims will be discriminated against, and eventually be treated like total sh!t at the best...I'll laugh at them. You guys let all kinds of sh!t in, and then when the sh!t causes troubles you tolerate it. Well, you guys deserve to live in sh!t then. I hardly even feel sorry for the French right now...they are getting what was comming for a long long time.

However, I would like to see white racists and radical muslims fight between each other and eventually just kill each other, that would be my perfect world. Nazis and radical relgious bigots destroying each other, what a wonderful world it would be!!!!! :D- You're all heart in other words:|

Any fool can be European in name only. It's laughable to think that islamic culture is remotely European or maybe the new europe is more lost that I previously thought.