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KillZone
11-13-2005, 11:45 AM
I found this interesting. Democrats won’t like some of it and Republicans won’t like some of it. I think it sheds some light on how politicians use statistics to push their agenda (both Democrats and Republicans).

http://www.livejournal.com/users/_roisindubh_/864778.html

BUSH:
At a public forum back in January, Pres. Bush made much of an Administration estimate that the Social Security system faces a future shortfall of $11 trillion. That sounds terrifying--until you realize that this mega-figure projects the future of Social Security not over a generation or so, but into infinity. The nonpartisan American Academy of Actuaries has called such projections worse than useless, and "likely to mislead anyone lacking technical expertise" into thinking the system is in worse shape than it is.

LIBERALS:
But liberals have some statistical explaining to do too. Last winter, the activist group Moveon.org ran an ad implying that Bush would cut Social Security benefits by 46%. The ad ignored Bush's repeated assurance that he would not cut benefits or anyone at or near retirement - and, indeed, the 46% figure referred to the projected growth of benefits for retirees some 75 years down the road. It also ignored estimates that, if we do nothing to fix Social Security, by mid-century benefits will have to be cut by around a quarter anyway.

Over the years, I have become convinced that people in both parties tell whatever it takes to get elected. That seems to me to be the main goal of them all. I wish I were not so jaded, yet I am.

Freedom&Liberty
11-13-2005, 02:19 PM
Stay jaded, your instincts are correct.

KillZone
11-13-2005, 03:39 PM
Stay jaded, your instincts are correct.

Is it all a joke to them? Sometimes I wonder if they have a party—Dems & Repubs—and say, “We fooled them again! Ain’t life grand?” Are we the punch line of the joke? No. I am just jaded.

Our State reps in Texas are a complete joke. :hmm:

SpabSFW
11-13-2005, 04:10 PM
Ya, but they can be entertaining.

fat mike
11-13-2005, 08:59 PM
I had a supervisor at work tell me "Greyhounds knows about every penny that's coming across this and every counter in the bus system and can account for all of it" I didnt know what I know now and I knew he was wrong-A private corporation will be a lot more than the government ;the government has no idea what's going on with revenue or expenditures...

SwiftSloth
11-13-2005, 09:05 PM
Keeping in mind the BA is the elected officials of 1/2 the nations vote, and moveon is a fringe leftist group representing a minority of extremists.

soylentgreen
11-14-2005, 09:26 AM
Is it all a joke to them? Sometimes I wonder if they have a party—Dems & Repubs—and say, “We fooled them again! Ain’t life grand?” Are we the punch line of the joke? No. I am just jaded.
Oh, no...I don't think they believe it is a joke. I think they believe it is deadly serious. Why? Because it is all about attaining and retaining POWER. Power is not a joke to these people. They will say or do anything to get it and hold on to it...end of story.

Social Security is the biggest power-grab football of them all. 12% of everything every American worker earns goes into this system...right off the top. Thre are no deductions, there are no shelters. Of course all the politicians in Washington want to get their hands on that money! And, they want to use they money to control you. They want to prey on your fears. Fear is the best way to control people.

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