Cancer Treatment: Helpful or Harmful? ----the human immunity is important in against disease

Cancer is a malignant tumour,not a benign tumour.it is an incurable disease; the patient moves towards the death finally like the rotten tree. Medical treatment in cancer is only a blind experiment. It can't prolong the patient's life. It is harmful to the human body and accelerates the patient's death instead.

Cancer is formed when the mutant cell reproduces greatly. The latest views suggest that cancer cells produce all the time in human life. Usually it hasn't enough time to reproduce before it be killed by the human body's immune system. However, if the human immune system is weak the cancer cells reproduce rapidly and the cancer tumor forms. For example a country, if its military strength is very weak a rebel insurgency can develop rapidly and overthrow its government.

At present treatment to cancer included: The operation, medicine chemotherapy, Radiotherapy(radioactive rays), and the traditional Chinese medicine with superstition color. Operation chemotherapy and radiotherapy is a harmful treatment.while it works to kill cancer cells,it also unfortunately kill many healthy cells. They can't remove the cancer tumor, but destroy the human body greatly. This harmful treatment reduces the immune function of the human further, creating more opportunity for the cancer tumor's reproduction . And the traditional Chinese medicine comfort patient by psychology. It is harmful to the human body to take the traditional Chinese medicine in a large amount.

It is important to strengthen our body's immune system. Polluted food, water and air are harmful to our immunity and all fountion in our body.protecting environment is to protect our health. A fine natual environment free of pollution is the best precaution against cancer,and the best treatment to prolong the cancer patient's life.

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... Although yes, the best way to reduce cancer would be to lower the many radical carcinogens our bodys take in, id say once you have cancer, you either have to cure it and face the chances that you may die trying to cure it... Or die no matter what.

Certian cancers can be cured by chemo, such as some forms of Lukemia, lymphoma, and Hodgkins'.Overalll, the surgery/chemo/radiation approach doesn't work for very long on almost every other cancer.

There are also lots of cases of spontaneous remissions, and individuals who cure themselves by NOT doing what the doctors say.

There are also lots of cases of spontaneous remissions, and individuals who cure themselves by NOT doing what the doctors say.

Certain cases where people die as a result of doctors actions are indeed sad, but I really wouldnt advise people to not take doctors advice... Without it your pretty well set to die. With it, although there is a tiny chance there actions will worsen, if not all out kill you, you stand a much better chance of fighting the diesese.

I have a neighbor who lives 2 houses down from me who was recently diagnosed with a terminal cancer. His doctor gave him the option of receiving or refusing chemo. He opted to refuse it because the chemo would have kept him alive for 2 years, probably most of it in pain. He would rather die in a few months than suffer for 2 years. Hes almost 90 so he lived his life.

... With all due respect, if he's 90 getting chemo would be kinda crazy in my personal opinion... He certainly made the right decision.

I know several people who have died of cancer over the past couple years, all were given chemo and all of them are now dead. I'd go the holistic route, I know of many people who have done so and are now alive and cancer free, I used to workout with an old man that had cancer who didn't do chemo, that guy was in his early 60's and could keep up with people a third his age..

Medical treatment in cancer is only a blind experiment. It can't prolong the patient's life. It is harmful to the human body and accelerates the patient's death instead.

Horse****. There are thousands of survivors of cancer whose tumours were beaten into remission thanks to chemo and radiation who would otherwise be dead. A friend that, 6 years ago, had brain surgery to remove a tennis-ball sized astrocytoma and chemo and radiation to get the remnants, a tumor that would have killed her in months from its detection, a friend that shows no signs of any cancer returning, begs to disagree with you as well.

Cancer is formed when the mutant cell reproduces greatly. The latest views suggest that cancer cells produce all the time in human life. Usually it hasn't enough time to reproduce before it be killed by the human body's immune system. However, if the human immune system is weak the cancer cells reproduce rapidly and the cancer tumor forms.

It's not the immune system that kills cells, it's the genetics of the cell itself that determine its lifespan and reproduction rate. One of the big problems with cancer treatments is that the tumor cells look to the immune system, in terms of chemistry and surface markers and the so on, just like "normal" cells in the body and so they are not attacked and destroyed.

At present treatment to cancer included: The operation, medicine chemotherapy, Radiotherapy(radioactive rays), and the traditional Chinese medicine with superstition color. Operation chemotherapy and radiotherapy is a harmful treatment.while it works to kill cancer cells,it also unfortunately kill many healthy cells.

Radio therapy is far more advanced than you give it credit. The damage to surrounding tissue is actually quite minimal.

It is important to strengthen our body's immune system. Polluted food, water and air are harmful to our immunity and all fountion in our body.protecting environment is to protect our health. A fine natual environment free of pollution is the best precaution against cancer,and the best treatment to prolong the cancer patient's life.

We agree that the environment is a major factor in cancers. So are behaviors. For example, in the last 20 years or so lung cancers became a huge issue and the true danger of intentionally inhaling a chemical WMD became clear. Smoking is on the way out, thankfully. But now there's another issue looming that I think will come back to bite us in the ass in 20 years: cell phones. It used to be that a cell phone was used periodically but nowadays people live with these multi-watt RF radio stations literally glued to their ears for hours every single day. As a design engineer I'm involved with regulatory testing of my company's products and one of the tests for intentional RF emitters is a "SAR" or specific absorption rate test that is a measure of RF energy impingement into tissues like the brain so there is definitely standing concern about the effects on tissue of RF energy. I wager that in the coming years the instances of brain cancers will skyrocket...

Filling our fish with mercury, our air with pollutants, our meat with hormones, our water with 'zines and 'anes and 'ides will definitely come back to haunt us. The process has probably already started.

But a strong immune system alone isn't going to stop cancers.

But now there's another issue looming that I think will come back to bite us in the ass in 20 years: cell phones. It used to be that a cell phone was used periodically but nowadays people live with these multi-watt RF radio stations literally glued to their ears for hours every single day. As a design engineer I'm involved with regulatory testing of my company's products and one of the tests for intentional RF emitters is a "SAR" or specific absorption rate test that is a measure of RF energy impingement into tissues like the brain so there is definitely standing concern about the effects on tissue of RF energy. I wager that in the coming years the instances of brain cancers will skyrocket...

Filling our fish with mercury, our air with pollutants, our meat with hormones, our water with 'zines and 'anes and 'ides will definitely come back to haunt us. The process has probably already started.

But a strong immune system alone isn't going to stop cancers.


Any idea which cell phones emit the least RF?

I think that in 20 years there won't be many 30-45 year old women, because right now they all have cell phones glued to their heads every waking hour. At the school I go to you cannot find a girl who is not talking on their cell phones when not in class, or when their driving, or at the store, or at the beach, it doesn't matter, they are always yakking on the phone...
:nonono:

Any idea which cell phones emit the least RF?

You can check a table like the one found on this site:

http://www.globalchange.com/radiation.htm

and

http://www.globalchange.com/radiationlevels.htm

I think that in 20 years there won't be many 30-45 year old women, because right now they all have cell phones glued to their heads every waking hour. At the school I go to you cannot find a girl who is not talking on their cell phones when not in class, or when their driving, or at the store, or at the beach, it doesn't matter, they are always yakking on the phone...
:nonono:

Yep, them and high school students. And who knows, the young may be more susceptible to damage than the older. It's very early to tell for sure. But we strongly suspect, for instance, that police that use hand-held radar speed-measurement devices have a higher incidence of testicular cancer than average...

The whole problem with cancer is that our immune systems don't recognize it as a threat and therefore don't attack it.
Chemotherapy isn't always a good solution for that of course.
Unfortunately, I don't think holistic approaches are going to be a cure all either.
Can we all say "stem cell research"?

The whole problem with cancer is that our immune systems don't recognize it as a threat and therefore don't attack it.
Chemotherapy isn't always a good solution for that of course.
Unfortunately, I don't think holistic approaches are going to be a cure all either.
Can we all say "stem cell research"?

Agreed.

Although, all the women on my dad's side of the family have gotten breast cancer, and my grandad on my mom's side has bone cancer, it hasn't killed anyone. All the women are fine. I'm not too sure about Grandpa's treatment exactly, at his age he didn't want to go through aggressive chemo that would make him sick, but I think he's on some type of really mild chemo. He gets an IV full of stuff every month, it makes him a little sick for a day or 2 but not bad, then every 3 months they inject some sort of pellet into the lining of his stomach that releases medication for 3 months. He was diagnosed 2 years ago, and his most recent bone scan showed that the cancer is less than where it started. At this point they are not trying to get rid of it, just keep it from getting worse.

Horse****. There are thousands of survivors of cancer whose tumours were beaten into remission thanks to chemo and radiation who would otherwise be dead.Yes, that is 100% correct. I find it amazing that all the people who argue against Creationism in favor of science are the same people who reject scientific medicine. I had cancer over 10 years ago. I did not have chemo, but I did undergo radiation therepy. If I didn't have the treatment, I'd be dead now...no doubt. I am perfectly healthy today.

We can all point to one situation or another where someone did not survive treatment and/or disease. That does not mean the science behind the treatment is wrong.

The reason why chemo and radiation work is that cancer cells are more sensitive to these treatments than healthy cells. The idea is to kill the cancer and then allow the healthy cells to recover after the treatment.

I think if you tell someone that they have cancer the first thing they do is panic. But its human nature to want to fight death in any way possible. So to me its their choice to what kind of ways they fight the disease. At least if they are offered some kind of hope and a chance to fight it most will take any chance no matter how small to save themselves.

I find it amazing that all the people who argue against Creationism in favor of science are the same people who reject scientific medicine.

I openly support those who in facing death would suddenly reject the limited fields of science and subscribe to bronze age sheep herder methodology. :)

I had cancer over 10 years ago. I did not have chemo, but I did undergo radiation therepy. If I didn't have the treatment, I'd be dead now...no doubt. I am perfectly healthy today.

It is logical and fair to call such an event miraculous. :)

We can all point to one situation or another where someone did not survive treatment and/or disease. That does not mean the science behind the treatment is wrong.

I have always said science to be a divine gift that shouldn't be wasted.

I think if you tell someone that they have cancer the first thing they do is panic.No, the first thing is denial and confusion.

But its human nature to want to fight death in any way possible. Yup!

It is logical and fair to call such an event miraculous. :).Well, in some ways, I think it is. I mean, I didn't feel a warm sensation in the affected area and find myself suddenly cured. What happened was skilled doctors used their knowledge to fight the disease in the best ways known to science. I think there is something of a miracle that people can learn and develop these skills.

I have always said science to be a divine gift that shouldn't be wasted.I agree.

Cancer Treatment: Helpful or Harmful? ----the human immunity is important in against disease

Cancer is a malignant tumour,not a benign tumour.it is an incurable disease; the patient moves towards the death finally like the rotten tree. Medical treatment in cancer is only a blind experiment. It can't prolong the patient's life. It is harmful to the human body and accelerates the patient's death instead.

Cancer is formed when the mutant cell reproduces greatly. The latest views suggest that cancer cells produce all the time in human life. Usually it hasn't enough time to reproduce before it be killed by the human body's immune system. However, if the human immune system is weak the cancer cells reproduce rapidly and the cancer tumor forms. For example a country, if its military strength is very weak a rebel insurgency can develop rapidly and overthrow its government.

At present treatment to cancer included: The operation, medicine chemotherapy, Radiotherapy(radioactive rays), and the traditional Chinese medicine with superstition color. Operation chemotherapy and radiotherapy is a harmful treatment.while it works to kill cancer cells,it also unfortunately kill many healthy cells. They can't remove the cancer tumor, but destroy the human body greatly. This harmful treatment reduces the immune function of the human further, creating more opportunity for the cancer tumor's reproduction . And the traditional Chinese medicine comfort patient by psychology. It is harmful to the human body to take the traditional Chinese medicine in a large amount.

It is important to strengthen our body's immune system. Polluted food, water and air are harmful to our immunity and all fountion in our body.protecting environment is to protect our health. A fine natual environment free of pollution is the best precaution against cancer,and the best treatment to prolong the cancer patient's life.

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name:chenyu.
ADDRESS:people hospital.huangchuan County.henan Province.china. code:465150
Email:chenyu0397@yahoo.com.cn yecao1959@sohu.com
yahoo PC-to-PC Calls:chenyu0397
telephone:008613598583618
home telephone:008603973923000
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I like green.like science.like internet.like to live in a small house around plants trees.oppose high consumption.good point. i always thought chemo was a bit of an oxymoron.

I openly support those who in facing death would suddenly reject the limited fields of science and subscribe to bronze age sheep herder methodology. :)

If your wife was diagnosed with breast cancer would you, seeking a cure:

1) Resort to praying real hard.

or

2) Rely on modern science to give your wife a fighting chance?

If you were diagnosed with prostate cancer, is your faith strong enough to renounce science in favor of asking your god really nice to make the icky cancer go away?

If your wife was diagnosed with breast cancer would you, seeking a cure:

1) Resort to praying real hard.

or

2) Rely on modern science to give your wife a fighting chance?

Both. <<<<<<<

No doctor of medical science can guarantee life.

If you were diagnosed with prostate cancer, is your faith strong enough to renounce science in favor of asking your god really nice to make the icky cancer go away?

the strength of ones faith does not in any way determine gods will.

if you're gonna die from cancer you're gonna die from cancer.

the creator is he who made the physician, the hospital facility the nurses, the knowledge and means required for such an establishment and of course the patient. he made it all and he listens to even the weakest of prayers.

That's like saying because I spent a dollar on an orange I built the farm, the people who work it, and the produce.
Maybe the people who went to medical school, and built the hospitals, and try to care for the patients, deserve some credit, rather than an assumed creator.
Anyway, although I'm not a religious person, I do think people with strong faith have better odds of surviving illness.
I personally don't think that is due to a creator, but rather the strength of the mind which isn't well understood at this time.

Both. <<<<<<<

No doctor of medical science can guarantee life.



the strength of ones faith does not in any way determine gods will.

if you're gonna die from cancer you're gonna die from cancer.

the creator is he who made the physician, the hospital facility the nurses, the knowledge and means required for such an establishment and of course the patient. he made it all and he listens to even the weakest of prayers. I think you hit it on the button Jojo...what's wrong with using what medical science has advanced us and pulling strength from God?
I do think though, that there comes a time when all that can be done medically has been done, and a patient should be allowed to enjoy the rest of his days in the best comfort he can.

Both. <<<<<<<

Isn't it god's will you got cancer? Why fight it?

If science can force the cancer into remission and give perhaps decades more life, what does that say about your god's plan? He apparently wanted you to have cancer and die but you fought back...isn't he going to be pissed?

No doctor of medical science can guarantee life.

Wanna bet that doctors' records in this regard are better than prayer alone?

the strength of ones faith does not in any way determine gods will.

if you're gonna die from cancer you're gonna die from cancer.

the creator is he who made the physician, the hospital facility the nurses, the knowledge and means required for such an establishment and of course the patient. he made it all and he listens to even the weakest of prayers.

Doesn't it seem odd to you that the creator would create doctors and hospitals and nurses to fight the diseases he also created? Doesn't it seem odd to you that he sees fit to kill someone by cancer but that mankind now stands a reasonable chance of kicking his plan in the nuts and giving that person a normal, long life?

What kind of god is this? How sick is he that he not only puts diseases like cancer in this little maze but he also lets a trickle of knowledge in to let us maze denizens try to fight his abhorrent creations? What a sick **** this god is! What kind of pleasure does he get from watching us struggle to fight the pestilences he intentionally sends our way?

And you have faith in this?

Isn't it god's will you got cancer? Why fight it?

If science can force the cancer into remission and give perhaps decades more life, what does that say about your god's plan? He apparently wanted you to have cancer and die but you fought back...isn't he going to be pissed?
What if it's Gods will that you get cancer & survive? What if it's God's will that man use this experience to further cancer research to obtain the abilities to heal others?
What if it isn't God's will that you got cancer. What if it is a circumstance he doesn't control...yet prayer might help you find the peace of mind & focus you need to mentally fight this disease.


Wanna bet that doctors' records in this regard are better than prayer alone? I do not discount the doctor's experience. However,
statistics show that patients who have people praying for them have a better chance at recovery.




Doesn't it seem odd to you that the creator would create doctors and hospitals and nurses to fight the diseases he also created? Doesn't it seem odd to you that he sees fit to kill someone by cancer but that mankind now stands a reasonable chance of kicking his plan in the nuts and giving that person a normal, long life?

What kind of god is this? How sick is he that he not only puts diseases like cancer in this little maze but he also lets a trickle of knowledge in to let us maze denizens try to fight his abhorrent creations? What a sick **** this god is! What kind of pleasure does he get from watching us struggle to fight the pestilences he intentionally sends our way?

And you have faith in this?
God gave us free will. Things aren't perfect, accidents happen, life happens. God can give us the resiliance to better fight something, or to overcome tradgey, but I do not think he has divine control over who lives or dies. But he can accept you or not.
He gives us the tools. We have to use them best we can.