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GanjaFreebird
10-26-2005, 11:36 PM
Since I haven't recorded 27 of the 30 songs for the guitar combats (although I still did 3, unlike what Snouter says), I thought that the least I could do this time is have 2 songs I've recorded:

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/farawaynow

1. The official Delta-Blues song, which is "Love In Vain", by Robert Johnson-"track 7"...I'm playing most lead guitar, including the first solo, while my partner Billy is singing and he plays the second solo (which is much much better than mine in terms of delta-blues style, he feels the blues much better). Just 2 acoustic guitars and vocals, we did it all at once, live, at our first try. Warning, don't expect no Robert Johnson or Muddy Watters here, but I do believe that it is half way decent when it comes to 2 jewish kids trying to play some blues.

2. "Track 2"- Just a "Crossroads" jam we did for fun, to warm up and check if the recording equipment even worked. Surprisingly, there are decent moments here, although we have done it much better live before and we did mess up here and there, but it still turned out alright for a jam.
I play all the lead guitar here, and my bandmates Billy (lead vocals, unfortunately no guitar) and Justin (rhythm guitar), just 2 acousitc guitars basically.

Every musician here should post their blues songs, any cover of Delta-Blues. It should be very interesting.

Again, you can play it the way you want to, but it's gotta be acoustic.

Looking foward to hearing some blues...(snouter, that includes you too, even if you're "too good for the blues" :p , after all it is very rare that I do guitar combats here)

Snouter
10-27-2005, 01:13 AM
We have done a number of blues song, you knucklehead. :p

GanjaFreebird
10-27-2005, 08:23 AM
We have done a number of blues song, you knucklehead.

We did ONE "any blues song before". Now it's Delta-Blues, or any other kind of acoustic blues, big difference.

C'mon, if you don't have an acoustic gutiar, I'm sure you got a friend or two who can let you borrow one. You know what, I might even do a "special exception" for you, do it on electric or whatever if YOU MUST, make it sound acoustic though, but do SOMETHING. What do you think about my recording? Could you do anything similar? Remember, both of mine are 100% live recordings, I was just jamming, it took me 4-5 minutes, not a whole week, lol. I mean, you should try jamming with your friends on some blues, 2 guitars is all it takes.

oki
10-27-2005, 05:07 PM
Ill have to do two takes, just like you are with 2 players.
btw song 7 is cool, song 2 I didnt like so much.
btw 2: I dont see the point in all this angry talk ganja. pissing on how someone makes music is not really cool. it sure as hell doesnt get me exited to do something.

GanjaFreebird
10-28-2005, 12:20 AM
Ill have to do two takes, just like you are with 2 players.

Sounds good.

btw song 7 is cool,

Thank you.

song 2 I didnt like so much.

Oh well, as I said, it was just a jam I posted for fun. We were just warming up and having a good time, not being serious about recording a great record, you know. It's really nothing special, that's why I had "Love In Vain" posted as the official one, but I still think "Crossroads" had some decent moments.

btw 2: I dont see the point in all this angry talk ganja.

I'm not angry at all, sorry you feel that way.

pissing on how someone makes music is not really cool. it sure as hell doesnt get me exited to do something.

Well, I'm sorry, but if you read carefully, Snouter was the one provoking all of that, putting me down as a musician, saying that he can easily kick my ass in any guitar combat and even lying that I never participated, which I did 3 times and he knows that very well.

Look, you can be the most horrible musician and I'm still gonna appreciate your effort as opposed to critisizing, I really never piss on anybody's music. However, if you're gonna claim that you are all that, put me down as a musician and talk to me with arrogance like I'm not even a musician and I only need to learn from you, not to mention pissing on the music of REAL great musicians and claiming to be better than them...well, then you better prove it all, or otherwise I'm really gonna tell you how it is.

For the matter of fact, besides his "delta blues" louie louie version, I never put Snouter's music down. I actually told him several times that he's very good, if not excellent, considering being non-profesional, and having the view on music that he supposedly has. And I told him what I liked about the music he covered and what I didn't like, since with his critisism of me (which often turn into insults) I felt quite comfortable saying my honest opinion as a musician. At least I don't ignore his songs and pretend he never recorded them, as he does to me. I never even said that I was better than him or anything, I'm better than that. And trust me, if he didn't put great guitarists down and claimed he's better as well as saying that he's so sure he can kick my ass on guitar, I would have only said the good things about what he does musically, I'm quite supportive if one isn't arrogant to me.

For the matter of fact, I would like to hear whatever he or anybody else can do for this guitar combat. My intentions are good. :D

RedLine99
10-28-2005, 01:49 AM
well...i was gonna try something original and then house of the rising sun bit me in the ass... :D so, the first 3 verses is me plucking away on the Takamine (well..ok..i did EQ it a bit :p ), then it breaks into the "organ solo" )bwahaha..they wish!), and then i do the last three verses on my usual off-synch psyhcodaelia :p

in the fan original folder house
http://briefcase.yahoo.com/farawaynow

oki
10-28-2005, 05:08 AM
well ganja you started this whole thing up by saying that its pretty easy to play with a drumtrack and that you did some blues songs and that not every musicion can do that. I know you ment it as a challenge, but it came across as if you wanted to show off your blues skills, and laugh at others who dont have them.

anyway, Ill probebly will do a leadbelly song.

GanjaFreebird
10-28-2005, 09:38 AM
anyway, Ill probebly will do a leadbelly song.

Good choice :nice:

well ganja you started this whole thing up by saying that its pretty easy to play with a drumtrack

Well, it IS easy though, I've done it before. And it is much harder to play with a real drummer, I mean, that's the truth, no matter what you like better.

that you did some blues songs and that not every musicion can do that.

Yes, I did some blues songs, and no, not every musician can play the blues great, not even close...and it's not like I am Muddy Watters or Howlin' Wolf by any means, I'm just trying what I can, and so should everybody. I never said I was a "great bluesman" myself either, sh!t, I wish I was.

I know you ment it as a challenge, but it came across as if you wanted to show off your blues skills, and laugh at others who dont have them.

ABSOLUTELY NOT!! First of all, these two songs I have HARDLY show off my best blues guitar skills, nor do I really want to. I played them the way I played them, and it certainly does NOT represent my best. I'm not trying to show off here, but inspire people to play the blues the old style, and as long as one trying to learn and does an effort (something that Snouter didn't do yet and you know it), I'll fully appreciate and respect that, no matter what is the result. But if you are gonna be a clown, make fun of great musicians and my guitar combat of playing acoustic-blues, say it's so easy to do like the masters that you don't even wanna do it, and talk to me with arrogance, then of course I'm gonna expect you to be as good as an old great black Bluesman or better, or at least WAYYY better than I could ever be, or otherwise I am gonna laugh at you...not at the lack of ability to play like Robert Johnson or Muddy Waters, but your arrogance. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

well...i was gonna try something original and then house of the rising sun bit me in the ass... so, the first 3 verses is me plucking away on the Takamine (well..ok..i did EQ it a bit ), then it breaks into the "organ solo" )bwahaha..they wish!), and then i do the last three verses on my usual off-synch psyhcodaelia

:nice: Very interesting, nice job, RedLine. I'm very impressed especially with the vocals...in the acoustic begining you kinda sounded like the great bluesman Lightnin' Hopkins, and later on your singing style was more like Eric Burdon. Interesting musical arrangement too.

RightWingZealot
10-28-2005, 03:08 PM
And it is much harder to play with a real drummer,

thats cause we push and pull. :)

I, ususaly too much. :|

oki
10-29-2005, 07:02 PM
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=322740
dope head blues, original by victoria spivey/lonnie johnson.

GanjaFreebird
10-29-2005, 07:28 PM
dope head blues, original by victoria spivey/lonnie johnson.

:nice: Great job!! And I like this song a lot too :D , Lonnie Johnson is a great blues/jazz guitarist, very underrated.

It was done in delta-blues style quite well and I could tell you can feel the blues. It sounded even more old-school blues than my 2 songs!! And also the vocals as they go with the song arrangement reminded me of The White Stripes when they do old Blues. I enjoyed listening to it!!

GanjaFreebird
10-29-2005, 07:31 PM
dope head blues, original by victoria spivey/lonnie johnson.

:nice: Great job!! And I like this song a lot too :D , Lonnie Johnson is a great blues/jazz guitarist, very underrated.

It was done in delta-blues style quite well and I could tell you can feel the blues. It sounded even more old-school than my 2 songs!! And also the vocals, as they go with the song arrangement, reminded me of The White Stripes when they do old Blues. Also, I'm quite impressed that there was no overproduction, effects, electronic stuff, and it sounded very much like old Blues recordings. I enjoyed listening to it!!

oki
10-30-2005, 06:23 AM
:nice: Great job!! And I like this song a lot too :D , Lonnie Johnson is a great blues/jazz guitarist, very underrated.

It was done in delta-blues style quite well and I could tell you can feel the blues. It sounded even more old-school blues than my 2 songs!! And also the vocals as they go with the song arrangement reminded me of The White Stripes when they do old Blues. I enjoyed listening to it!!thanks!
:) its one acoustic guitar with flying bridge, and one banjoline for the 'solo"
gives it that nice plink-ploink sound..
anyway, I wasnt really satisfied but I figured, old blues is supposed to sound a little crap, it adds to the vibe.

RedLine99
10-30-2005, 11:06 AM
The official Delta-Blues song, which is "Love In Vain", by Robert Johnson-"track 7"...

i like the feel of this one the best of the two, although i think the solo on crossroads sounds cool :nice: you guys play well together and probably get some pretty interesting stuff going :)

Interesting musical arrangement too.
thanks! sometimes they just..er...well..anyways, i fixed the drums and bass a bit and re-did the last verse guitar more animalish :p

I wasnt really satisfied but I figured, old blues is supposed to sound a little crap, it adds to the vibe.

it sounds cool, oki! :nice: your voice really brings it together and i love the washboard effect the banjoline gives it. and,hey..it's already #41 on the bluies cover chart!

GanjaFreebird
10-30-2005, 12:29 PM
anyway, I wasnt really satisfied but I figured, old blues is supposed to sound a little crap, it adds to the vibe.

I see where you're comming from, and obviously the old recordings are crappy because technology wasn't developed at the time, same to old Jazz. However, the music was always brilliant, and I have yet to hear anybody, even today's best guitarists, to play the way Robert Johnson, or Blind Willie Johnson did, especially if we're talking about "feeling it". That's why I did not do "Love In Vain" or "Crossroads" the original way, because I wouldn't be able to play that nearly as good and I would probably break my fingers trying to play Johnson's style of rhythm-lead, lol. So I basically did that somewhere in between the originals and the blues-rock covers.

i like the feel of this one the best of the two

Well, I agree, because at least, unlike "Crossroads", we were actually trying to play good here and actually record it, not just jam and see if the computer recording program works. :)

thanks! sometimes they just..er...well..anyways, i fixed the drums and bass a bit and re-did the last verse guitar more animalish

I liked it a lot, and by the way The Animals always been among my most favorite bands. The Jimmy Reed cover I did earlier, "Baby What's Wrong With You" is directly inspired by their version.

although i think the solo on crossroads sounds cool

Thanks, basically I was just jamming, and I tried to use Clapton's solo during Cream, some solos he has done after Cream, as well as other ideas from Muddy Waters and Robert Johnson, I can't say I'm satisfied with my playing here at all, and I f#cked up several times, however, there are a few good moments, that's why I kept this recording.

you guys play well together and probably get some pretty interesting stuff going

Thanks!! And I can definately say that my partner Billy is a hell of a musician and full of talent. He was personally praised by John Lee Hooker and Bo Diddley before I even knew him, and (since he is also an ex-Elvis impresionator and actually made huge money in Vegas as a kid doing it) he is also loved by many of Presley's relatives and best friends. I still remember how we had a dinner at the house where Vernon Presley (king's father) used to live before he died. One of Elvis' cousins likes to talk a lot about adopting Billy :D

I'm not the guitarist or musician that he is (when he really does his best at least), definately not the singer, and unlike him, I don't have that kind of originality, but I am lucky enough to be playing with him and for him (from some weird reason) to think so highly of me, so we'll be playing for a long time, I'm sure. Right now, we are on a break, since he just moved to L.A. and I'm not gonna move there until June, but it's only gonna be that long.

I have more recordings of me and Billy, both originals and some covers, that are much better, I'll post them sometimes...

oki
10-30-2005, 05:51 PM
it sounds cool, oki! :nice: your voice really brings it together and i love the washboard effect the banjoline gives it. and,hey..it's already #41 on the blues cover chart! thanks! and really, 41?! wow thats my highest ranking ever!
:D I need to do more blues covers...


(btw the fact that they have a special group called blues covers indicates that soundclick doesnt mind covers tht much.)

oki
10-30-2005, 06:00 PM
redline, I think your version is exellent! great singing, great guitar playing, very cool.
and that drum attack allmost made me fall of my chair.I'm not the guitarist or musician that he is (when he really does his best at least), definately not the singer, and unlike him, I don't have that kind of originality, but I am lucky enough to be playing with him and for himhey dont sell iyourself short.
do you ever record something with you singing and playing? Id like to hear.

RedLine99
10-31-2005, 02:01 PM
thanks! and really, 41?! wow thats my highest ranking ever!
:D I need to do more blues covers...

DUDE! Your #22!!!!!! :nice:

oki
10-31-2005, 06:06 PM
DUDE! Your #22!!!!!! :nice:
:w00t: Im going places, Im gonna be a star!!! :banana:

No_Brakes
10-31-2005, 07:54 PM
A star who's already got a harem full of groupies at your beck and call! (Or have you forgotten already!? :eek: ;) )

oki
11-01-2005, 05:53 AM
A star who's already got a harem full of groupies at your beck and call! (Or have you forgotten already!? :eek: ;) ) I know, Im such a star...
:)

GanjaFreebird
11-01-2005, 08:43 AM
I'm still waiting on Snouter's song!! Or is he running away now? :confused:

hey dont sell iyourself short.

Thank you, but it is really true that he's better than I am as far as being a musician is concerned, I hate to say it but it's true. He disagrees about it though, and I still don't understand why.

do you ever record something with you singing and playing? Id like to hear.

Yeah, go to my folder, there is that Jimmy Reed song "Baby What's Wrong With You", I sing on it and play all instruments. Also, my orginial "Forced To Be Your Angel" (or track1), I sing it and play most of the instruments too.

I'll post more music later too.

I know, Im such a star...

:nice: Hey where is Snouter...he needs to read it because he told me earlier that it is impossible to be sucessful playing delta-blues and that the only thing good about it was that British musicians covered it :p Your version was 100% delta-blues, and sounded even more old-school than some old recordings and yet people obviously love it!! :confused:

But I thought...I thought that it was the half-famous 1960's bands who immitated Love and The Doors, as well as 1980's metal, Carpenters and David Cassidy...that was "great music"...what went wrong?? :confused:

oki
11-01-2005, 06:21 PM
I thought those 2 songs were pretty good, ganja. especially that angle song, sounds a bit psycedelic rockish.

GanjaFreebird
11-08-2005, 01:13 PM
I thought those 2 songs were pretty good, ganja. especially that angle song, sounds a bit psycedelic rockish.

Thank you :)

That's a song I wrote about 2-3 years ago, inspired by The Beatles, Love, Grateful Dead and a little bit Stevie Ray Vaughn. Many people seem to like my other songs better that are much more simple, however I like it for the unusual chord progression. I still play it live sometimes, I'm considering re-recording it since my vocals weren't that good at the time and I think I can do it better now.

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