Sheriff's deputies have arrested 14 men suspected of kidnapping and raping an 18-year-old woman in Florida.

The victim told deputies she was asleep in her home early Saturday when she heard a knock at the front door, according to the Naples Daily News. When she opened the door, she said several men reached in and grabbed her and dragged her from her home.


The victim told deputies the men took her to a nearby trailer where she saw several more men. She said one man began to choke her, while several of the others hit her, causing her to lose consciousness.

When she regained consciousness, the men were plugging her nose and pouring alcohol into her mouth, according to the report.

She said the men then removed her pants, and, while others held her down, one by one, each had sex with her for what she estimates was an hourlong ordeal. After all of the men had finished having sex with her, she was pushed out the front door. The woman said she ran to a nearby home, where she reported the crime to deputies at about 4 a.m.

The men arrested and charged are: Rene Perezgarcia, 22; Mario Lopez Luis, 19; Herman Sanchez Salas, 28; Ovidio Lopez Funez, 19; Napoleon Perez Lopez, 29; Edwin Albaladego Rivera, 28; Ermitanio Lopez Salas, 18; Israel Santiago, 56; Rolando Perez Claudio, 23; Alvarado Perez Luis, 21; Augusto Perez Lopez, 32; Cesar Perez Lopez, 29; Gabino Garcia Godinez, 24; and Augusto Garcia Velasquez, 30.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46655

Oh no! Not our precious immigrants!

Oh no! Not our precious immigrants!

If they did it, they should be hanged from lampposts and their corpses turned into crow food. :)

Assuming these are illegals (and except for the Puerto Rican I'm guessing they are) the IRS and INS should land on whoever was hiring them without the proper paperwork like a ton of bricks. The penalties on the books for improperly filing a W-4 or W-9 are pretty steep.

These are animals and should be severely punished granted.But if I put up a story about
white people doing something horrible it doesn't really prove much either...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094608/

These are animals and should be severely punished granted.But if I put up a story about
white people doing something horrible it doesn't really prove much either...

I in 5 mexcats and 1 in 17 whites are in the criminal justice system. You were saying?

I in 5 mexcats and 1 in 17 whites are in the criminal justice system. You were saying?

In itself inconclusive-it could be there's a real immigrant problem,it could be a racist or nationalist police force-I'm not saying to ignore the border..

In itself inconclusive-it could be there's a real immigrant problem,it could be a racist or nationalist police force-I'm not saying to ignore the border..

Those numbers are felonies.

It's those damn beans.

Those numbers are felonies.

How does the degree change anything?
Poor people are more likely to break the law-
immigrants are more likely to be poor-it's a circular
argument.
There probably are a lot of criminals,real criminals
as opposed to people fleeing oppression or poverty-
I'm not saying to ignore it-I'm saying we need to spend some money
and fix the machine-what are you saying we should do? Or are you above proposing solutions?

How does the degree change anything?
Poor people are more likely to break the law-

West Virginia. The poorest state. One of the whitest at 99.6% and for 16 consecutive years, has had the lowest crime rate in the nation. Explain.

The people at Enron must have been freaking angels since they're rich and by your logic does not commit crime.

I in 5 mexcats and 1 in 17 whites are in the criminal justice system. You were saying?
- Actually, according to statistics, Mexicans commit LESS violent crime than whites proportionately.

Furthermore, the overwhelming majority of rapes are intraracial, and this story didn't establish that this was a "hate crime" in any way.

- Actually, according to statistics, Mexicans commit LESS violent crime than whites proportionately.

Furthermore, the overwhelming majority of rapes are intraracial, and this story didn't establish that this was a "hate crime" in any way.liberal definition of hate crime: white perp, colored victim.

And you're right that rape is overwhelmingly interracial, only it's not the way you hoped.

In a 1974 study in Denver, 40 percent of all rapes were of whites by blacks, and not one case of white-on-black rape was found. In general, through the 1970s, black-on-white rape was at least ten times more common that white-on-black rape. [319]

Because interracial rape is now overwhelmingly black on white, it has become difficult to do research on it or to find relevant statistics. The FBI keeps very detailed national records on crime, but the way it presents rape data obscures the racial element rather than clarifies it. Dr. William Wilbanks, a criminologist at Florida International University, had to sift carefully through the data to find that in 1988 there were 9,406 cases of black-on-white rape and fewer than ten cases of white-on-black rape. [320] Another researcher concludes that in 1989, blacks were three or four times more likely to commit rape than whites, and that black men raped white women thirty times as often as white men raped black women. [321]

http://library.flawlesslogic.com/rape.htm

Sorry, but that's NOT the definition of a "hate crime" - the fact that a crime is interracial ALONE doesn't make it done solely on account of racial hatred.

And, no, rape is NOT "interracial" - it's highly INTRA-racial, with the overwhelming majority of white women raped by white men & the converse.

Edit: BTW, unimpeachable source - "Our Race is Our Nation." :bowrofl:

Sorry, but that's NOT the definition of a "hate crime" - the fact that a crime is interracial ALONE doesn't make it done solely on account of racial hatred.

And, no, rape is NOT "interracial" - it's highly INTRA-racial, with the overwhelming majority of white women raped by white men & the converse.

Edit: BTW, unimpeachable source - "Our Race is Our Nation." :bowrofl:We can always count on you when it comes to deflecting attention away from our precious immigrants, can't we? I'm quite surprised you haven't brought up cogent arguments like the crusades, or the vikings yet.

For those who are not pathologically self hating white liberals, why is it only WND reporting about this?

Hispanic on hispanic crime is probably much higher since those crimes go largely unreported since the illegals don't want to get busted when the police interview them.

For those who are not pathologically self hating white liberals, why is it only WND reporting about this?
- It isn't - it picked up the story from the Naples Daily News.

- It isn't - it picked up the story from the Naples Daily News.I said mainstream media :o

Why, oh why, when javaman gets me to once again think about posting in the debates forums do I come across this thread. This model of exactly why I hate debates here.

Things utterly ridiculous about what's been said here so far.

1) The simple fact that Hispanics committed a horrible crime upon a white victim in no way relegates it to the status of hate crime. That's the most twisted way of interpreting hate crime legislations ever, and is a simple-minded way of trying to defeat the true purpose of those laws.

2) According to statistics, statistics suck. You all whine and complain about politicians misleading the public, yet you are so quick to jump on any numbers that sound official and back up your point of views. You all do the exact same things that you complain about, taking things out of context and misrepresenting them in a sophistic manner. Not sophisticated, sophistic.

I don't see what difference it makes if the victim is white and the perpetrators not white. If the point is that hate crimes legislation is bad then I agree.

I don't think those men were committing an act of love. The problem, obviously, about why this is not a hate crime is found in what was missing in the story. Was this woman targeted because she is white? Or did the perps yell something like "h*nk*y when they were doing the dastardly?

Why, oh why, when javaman gets me to once again think about posting in the debates forums do I come across this thread. This model of exactly why I hate debates here.

You all do the exact same things that you complain about, taking things out of context and misrepresenting them in a sophistic manner. Not sophisticated, sophistic.

It is a shame the forum fills up with worthless, putrid, racist 'topics' like this ... oh gee ... what a suprise ... thumper started it :not:

This is a topic? A TOPIC??

No, this is drivel. Pure, unadulterated drivel. Nothing about this story is worth our time, effort, or energy to analyze.

Mexicans raped a white girl. I hate to say it, but boo-effing-hoo. There's nothing, NOTHING, that says hate crime about this story, and everything that says needless pointing fingers towards minority lawbreakers.

Assuming these are illegals (and except for the Puerto Rican I'm guessing they are) the IRS and INS should land on whoever was hiring them without the proper paperwork like a ton of bricks.

damn right .

Mexicans raped a white girl. I hate to say it, but boo-effing-hoo. There's nothing, NOTHING, that says hate crime about this story, and everything that says needless pointing fingers towards minority lawbreakers.

damn right too ...

I said mainstream media :o
- That IS the "mainstream media." If it was ONLY posted on WND, you'd have a point.

Few crime stories make it to the national news unless their homicides.

Rapes of any sort almost never make the national news,so why should this case be any different?

Why does the left wing media keep showing that drunk guy getting roughed up by the N.O. cops especially when arresting drunks is what taxpayers pay cops to do?

BECAUSE, you have obviously been exposed to too much RIGHT-wing media that's telling you that the guy was drunk in the first place.

He claims to have not had a drop to drink in 25 years, and this story could have easily been cooberated or denied IF the police had taken the proper procedure of running a sobriety test on him, which they failed to do. The media shows it because it has social value, and viewers are interested in it. Whether you like it or not, abuse of police powers is a huge issue today, and any time its captured on film must make any rational person wonder how many times it happens when not captured on film. Did you also notice the TV producer getting slammed into the car? What's right about that?

What the hell does that have to do with the topic at hand? Stop confusing the matter, this so-called topic of a hate-crime is a non-topic. And as for that, the victim in the NO beating refuses to let the level of debate drop to the race-baiting arena, specifically instructing his lawyer to state that he believes it was not a racially motivated assault.

Um, is it just me, or am I the only one who didn't see a picture nor any description in the artical saying that this women was white?

I read an interesting Dutch artical from someone who linked the higher crimerates
among blacks, hispanics and Maroccans(in The Netherlands) to a male machoculture.
It would make the guys overly self-confident and low social status would easier lead
to anger.(pride)
It would explane why some other minoritygroups don't have equally high crimerates.The same status ,but a different reaction. Maybe it is one of the many pieces of the puzzle?

West Virginia. The poorest state. One of the whitest at 99.6% and for 16 consecutive years, has had the lowest crime rate in the nation. Explain.

The people at Enron must have been freaking angels since they're rich and by your logic does not commit crime.


Where do these stats come from? :confused:

;) Actually, forgettabout it, I'll simply agree with you if you'll allow me to simply make up a few "plausible facts" of my own:

1. WV 's population is one of the lowest. So, since almost no one lives there, it really doesn't matter what their socioeconomic health is since crime rate is a function of population.

2. WV's population is almost all rural: There's nothin' to steal in them thar hills.

3. WV's population is made up mainly of cousins that have married their sisters, so few have even the diminished mental capacity necessary to commit crimes.

I read an interesting Dutch artical from someone who linked the higher crimerates
among blacks, hispanics and Maroccans(in The Netherlands) to a male machoculture.
It would make the guys overly self-confident and low social status would easier lead
to anger.(pride)
It would explane why some other minoritygroups don't have equally high crimerates.The same status ,but a different reaction. Maybe it is one of the many pieces of the puzzle?another fine reason to support mass third world immigration :nice:

Well, I can find some good reasons for slapping "WARNING: Follower of Dogmatic, Xenophobic Prejudices" stickers on people's foreheads.

What did that post have to do with 3rd world immigration? Stop devolving all posts to your simplistic illogic.

Rapes of any sort almost never make the national news,so why should this case be any different?
I can't imagine that many family newspapers or local affiliates are very interested in manning the switchboards after publicizing a 14-ply gang rape. :rolleyes:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-5323056,00.html

Here's a story that even the mainstream British press jumped on. The difference? It's poor colored immigrants on the recieving end :rolleyes:

Yes, because I'm sure I will not be able to find a single story of a black man committing a crime upon a white man in the media. Wait, hold on while I google search for it.... no, actually, that would be a waste of time.

Again, can someone show me where they said she was white?

Again, can someone show me where they said she was white?

They didn't.I sort think she was,if she'd been hispanic or black or whatever it seems they would have said.
Good point,really...

They didn't.I sort think she was,if she'd been hispanic or black or whatever it seems they would have said.
Good point,really...

So, someone just implied that she was white for the reason of starting an argument maybe? :hmm:

NO! That would be..... NO!

Ridiculous assumptions because of a prejudice? Presuming characteristics about the criminals and victims due to preconceived notions! Say it so, Joe, say it ain't so...!

NO! That would be..... NO!

Ridiculous assumptions because of a prejudice? Presuming characteristics about the criminals and victims due to preconceived notions! Say it so, Joe, say it ain't so...!I've always loved the word BLASPHEMY! personally.

Where do these stats come from? :confused:

;) Actually, forgettabout it, I'll simply agree with you if you'll allow me to simply make up a few "plausible facts" of my own:

1. WV 's population is one of the lowest. So, since almost no one lives there, it really doesn't matter what their socioeconomic health is since crime rate is a function of population.

2. WV's population is almost all rural: There's nothin' to steal in them thar hills.

3. WV's population is made up mainly of cousins that have married their sisters, so few have even the diminished mental capacity necessary to commit crimes.
- Excellent analysis, Sam. :nice: Except it's us Arizonans that marry their cousins. :D

If my father wouldnt have dropped the ball I could have married a cousin by marriage-dad's step father's granddaughter.For real.Confounded Germans!

1. WV 's population is one of the lowest. So, since almost no one lives there, it really doesn't matter what their socioeconomic health is since crime rate is a function of population.If that is the case, then how do you explain these statisics?


Camden New Jersey population2002: 79,904



Races in Camden:
Black (53.3%)
Hispanic (38.8%)
Other race (22.8%)
White Non-Hispanic (7.1%)
Two or more races (3.9%)
Vietnamese (1.6%)
American Indian (1.2%)

Crime in Camden2002:
33 murders (40.5 per 100,000)
45 rapes (55.2 per 100,000)
607 robberies (744.1 per 100,000)
797 assaults (977.0 per 100,000)
1,155 burglaries (1415.9 per 100,000)
2,407 larceny counts (2950.7 per 100,000)
1,081 auto thefts (1325.2 per 100,000)
City-data.com crime index = 821.1 (higher means more crime, US average = 330.6)



Seattle Washington population 2002:570,426



Races in Seattle:
White Non-Hispanic (67.9%)
Black (8.4%)
Hispanic (5.3%)
Two or more races (4.5%)
Chinese (3.4%)
Filipino (2.8%)
Other race (2.4%)
Vietnamese (2.1%)
American Indian (2.1%)
Other Asian (1.8%)
Japanese (1.6%)
Korean (0.9%)
Asian Indian (0.5%)


Crime in Seattle 2002:
26 murders (4.5 per 100,000)
152 rapes (26.2 per 100,000)
1,576 robberies (271.7 per 100,000)
2,338 assaults (403.0 per 100,000)
7,290 burglaries (1256.7 per 100,000)
26,742 larceny counts (4610.0 per 100,000)
8,308 auto thefts (1432.2 per 100,000)











I am the least racist person on the planet, but I question your statement.

what are the respective average incomes in Seattle and Camden ?

Camden's a pretty yuppy community, isn't it?

what are the respective average incomes in Seattle and Camden ?

Camden Median household income: $23,421

Seattle Median household income: $45,736

Camden is in New Jersey, the 1st most population dense state in the nation, while Seattle is in Washington, only the 25th most dense. As Samson noted, crime is a function of population density.

Furthermore, as noted above, the median income of Camden is HALF that of Seattle.

Higher population density + lower incomes = more crime.

Camden is in New Jersey, the 1st most population dense state in the nation, while Seattle is in Washington, only the 25th most dense. As Samson noted, crime is a function of population density.

Furthermore, as noted above, the median income of Camden is HALF that of Seattle.

Higher population density + lower incomes = more crime.

But anywhere you have more blacks, you have more crime, even in rural areas. Take a look at Mississippi and Louisiana.

Untrue - anywhere you have poor blacks with the rest of the environmental factors that predispose people towards crime, you have crime.

But wealthy blacks living in Beverly Hills or Martha's Vineyard are no more likely to commit violent crime than you are. In fact, quite possibly less.

Camden is in New Jersey, the 1st most population dense state in the nation, while Seattle is in Washington, only the 25th most dense. As Samson noted, crime is a function of population density.


Camden is a city, Seattle is a city. I've been to both and both are dense with in their respective city limits. Which state they lie with in is not a factor. Of course, there are some factors that a state has on cities with in that state but that's another discussion, meaning that if that were the case, New Jersey should be one of the most well off (City wise) due to the absurdly high taxes. On the other hand, it's not.



Furthermore, as noted above, the median income of Camden is HALF that of Seattle.



Who's to blame? Bill Gates? The whites who designed and constructed our Eastern cities so compact?

Higher population density + lower incomes = more crime.See above.

Camden is a city, Seattle is a city. I've been to both and both are dense with in their respective city limits. Which state they lie with in is not a factor.
- Of course it is - the people that live there come from the surrounding area first and foremost.

People in Seattle often originate in the very undensely populated state of Washington, and then move there. People in Camden come from tightly packed areas surrounding it in Jersey, and often have the attendant social pathologies.

Camdenians, in fact, often come from areas all over Jersey and New York, looking for cheaper rents then they'll find elsewhere.

Of course, there are some factors that a state has on cities with in that state but that's another discussion, meaning that if that were the case, New Jersey should be one of the most well off (City wise) due to the absurdly high taxes. On the other hand, it's not.
- There's not really any general relation between the amount of taxes a state earns & quality of life there. City taxes in ghetto areas of New York are still very high.

Who's to blame? Bill Gates? The whites who designed and constructed our Eastern cities so compact?
- Many complex social factors. Besides, why's it a matter of "blame?" Who said that we should "blame" anyone?

It sounds like you're discussing racial politics and not the demographic & social causes of crime. The area has half the media income of the other city, and that's a major cause of the crime differential.

- People in Seattle often originate in the very undensely populated state of Washington, and then move there. People in Camden come from tightly packed areas surrounding it in Jersey, and often have the attendant social pathologies.

Know one moves to Camden. It just does not happen. They move out of Philadelphia, Chester, and Newark, along with NYC to places like York Pa, Williamsport Pa, Vineland NJ, Mount Holly NJ, Lancaster Pa, Cherry Hill NJ and so on. I don't want to down on you, because I respect the way you talk with me without **** talking, but it seems like you don't know the area. None of these aboved mentioned people move from Brownsville NY, or North central section of Philadelphia to Camden.

Camdenians, in fact, often come from areas all over Jersey and New York, looking for cheaper rents then they'll find elsewhere.

Again, no one moves to Camden. There is plenty of dirt cheap housing in NJ and PA without having to resort to moving to Camden.

Like Bush said, you forgot Poland, but in this case you forgot Philadelphia and Chester. No one moves from Philly, or for heavens sakes Chester to Camden. Moving from Chester to Camden is like out of the frying pan and into the fire.

Long story short, Camden has quite a reputation.

The area has half the media income of the other city, and that's a major cause of the crime differential.

So you are saying that because these areas are inhabited by Blacks, Latinos and other minorities that they can't find resourceful means of making money? They should just commit crime?

Um, yes, people move to Camden, when they can't afford the "dirt-cheap housing" - I'm not exactly sure where you get the idea that any place around that area is "dirt-cheap" outside blighted sections - in the rest of Jersey & the tri-state.

Camden's certainly not as bad as the South Bronx, and people DO move to the latter, for example.

So you are saying that because these areas are inhabited by Blacks, Latinos and other minorities that they can't find resourceful means of making money? They should just commit crime?
- Would you like to explain exactly how you got that out of my statement that the crime rate relative to Seattle was partially a function of the comparative incomes?

Crime is typically a problem in MOST economically depressed areas.

Um, yes, people move to Camden, when they can't afford the "dirt-cheap housing" - I'm not exactly sure where you get the idea that any place around that area is "dirt-cheap" outside blighted sections .York Pa, Williamsport Pa, Vineland NJ, Mount Holly NJ, Lancaster Pa, Cherry Hill NJ. Look them up.

For one, I was referring to the immediate New York vicinity. For another, Cherry Hill is hardly cheaper than Camden, or even as cheap.

What about Natalie Halloway?

When it looked like blacks would be involved in her case the media was all over it,when the suspects turned out to be white,the media dropped the case like a hot potato.

whoa.....

Dropped the case like a hot potato? Are you sure about that? She was getting good coverage on CNN up until Katrina hit, and even after I've seen a few reports about it. If that's what you call the media dropping a story, well then I'd hate to see a media blitz in your world.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/intro77/thisthread.jpg

Untrue - anywhere you have poor blacks with the rest of the environmental factors that predispose people towards crime, you have crime.

But wealthy blacks living in Beverly Hills or Martha's Vineyard are no more likely to commit violent crime than you are. In fact, quite possibly less.

And if a black living in Beverly Hills ever is accused (e.g. O.J. Simson) it is such an anomoly that it will take hundreds of hours of national news air time to satisfy our desire to gawk.

I'm not even going to lie because I didn't read everything,, But how do you know it's a hate crime? :confused:

He doesn't, because it probably is not one. He made the (false) claim that the "liberal definition" of a "hate crime" is "any interracial crime."

He doesn't, because it probably is not one. He made the (false) claim that the "liberal definition" of a "hate crime" is "any interracial crime."

That's the way a lot of people think.......These two guys of different races got in to fight and everybody tried to make it racial. They were fighting over a girl..

They weren't "fighting" - they were a bunch of horny farmworkers, and a girl was unfortunate enough to be abducted by them and group-raped. :(

It doesn't necessarily mean they did it solely because they hate people of her ethnicity. In fact, we don't even know what her ethnicity is.

In fact, we don't even know what her ethnicity is.We agree on something in this thread. :) I asked twice, and no responce...

They weren't "fighting" - they were a bunch of horny farmworkers, and a girl was unfortunate enough to be abducted by them and group-raped. :(

It doesn't necessarily mean they did it solely because they hate people of her ethnicity. In fact, we don't even know what her ethnicity is.one wonders if ethnic on white violence even qualifies as a 'hate' crime...

If it's in fact motivated by racial/ethnic hatred, and is not just a crime of opportunity.

If it's in fact motivated by racial/ethnic hatred, and is not just a crime of opportunity.think hard for a minute. Have you ever heard of a publicized anti-white hate crime before?

I imagine Colin Ferguson would fit the bill. :rolleyes:

http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=rodney+king&word2=colin+ferguson

Untrue - anywhere you have poor blacks with the rest of the environmental factors that predispose people towards crime, you have crime.

Why not poor whites though? They're not all that interested in the bling-bling? I, for one, find it feminine.

But wealthy blacks living in Beverly Hills or Martha's Vineyard are no more likely to commit violent crime than you are. In fact, quite possibly less.

Not true, recently here in Texas there was this big sting in Houston where they busted all of these black pharmacists for filling fake prescriptions for promethazine with codeine.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/page1/3382758

There are all of these black private schools here in Texas where the black administrators are stealing money from the feds and states.

Hell, even that black football player in Florida was caught burglarizing. What the frack?

http://www.local10.com/news/1547936/detail.html

You can take the negro out of the ghetto, but you can't take the ghetto out of the negro. :D

Read 'A Time To Kill'. Based on a completly true story. Or watch the movie. You'll get it.

Read 'A Time To Kill'. Based on a completly true story. Or watch the movie. You'll get it.

We're supposed to believe that a small Mississippi town is BOTH progressive and liberal enough to elect a black sheriff AND so racist that a black crime victim can never get justice. Anybody else see a contradiction here?

Samuel L. Jackson's character claims the right to kill the men who attacked his daughter, because he insists black people can't get justice from a white jury. But later, a white jury acquits him... which proves he was WRONG, which means his action was NOT justified!

Then there's the Kevin Spacey character, who makes no sense at all. Even in the Deep South, there is NO WAY that prosecuting a man for avenging the rape of his daughter could be a good career move. An ambitious politician would steer clear of such a case. He'd NEVER embrace it as a stepping stone to higher office.

John Grisham never much cared whether the stories he tell make sense.

Um.... Nevermind the movie, read the book. In retrospect the movie simplifies things quite a bit, and leaves out a lot going on with the KKK.

Why not poor whites though? They're not all that interested in the bling-bling? I, for one, find it feminine.
Many poor whites do. Do a little sociological research at any white trailer park, check out the comparative rates of predicate imprisonment and/or alcoholism, or examine the crime rates in Russia, and get back to us.

Not true, recently here in Texas there was this big sting in Houston where they busted all of these black pharmacists for filling fake prescriptions for promethazine with codeine.
When did that become a violent crime? I certain hope you're not claiming that whites & blacks are equally statistically predisposed towards white-collar crime, because you'll find Caucasians leading the pack by a veritable landslide. :)

I'll go out on a limb and guess that the overwhelming majority of doctors and pharmacists that have been busted for drug offenses have been white, like, say, Winona Ryder's former physician, Jules Lusman.

www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/lusman1.html

Or this 70 year-old white pharmacist, Paul Lussier, who wrote fake prescriptions for Vicodin, to trade them for sexual favors from a woman in her 30s.

www.seacoastonline.com/news/03182005/south_of/70514.htm

In fact, either many white pharmacists are involved with stealing drugs, or the pharmacy industry has suddenly began to hire extraordinarily disproportionate numbers of African Americans while no one was watching, because the problem is growing highly rapidly, requiring random drug testing and interviews with licensing boards:

http://jordan.fortwayne.com/ns/projects/pharmacy/pharm5.php

Of course, I'm sure it's much less complicated for you just to scapegoat black people than admit to the massive amounts of wrongdoing in your own community.

There are all of these black private schools here in Texas where the black administrators are stealing money from the feds and states.
And then there's the Rosalyn school district in Rosalyn, Long Island whose white top adminstrator, Frank Tassone, & 26 of his white cohorts, just got busted for stealing $11 million in public funds, causing a 50% tax hike.

http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/urban/features/9908/

There are numerous other white school adminstrators who've been busted for embezzlement. That's the problem with misleading anecdotal evidence - it's misleading and anecdotal.

You're exceedingly foolish to make white-collar crime a "racial" issue, because you'll always lose. We were discussing VIOLENT crime.

Hell, even that black football player in Florida was caught burglarizing. What the frack?
Take a look at his background, and you'll note that he comes straight from a low SES family. Blacks from high SES families aren't more likely to commit crime.

You can take the negro out of the ghetto, but you can't take the ghetto out of the negro. :D
You can put the Texas bigot on the Internet, but he'll still be a Texas bigot.

Now, examine the rates of crime for high SES blacks, and you'll notice they're no higher - or possibly lower - than you.

For all of the liberal's ranting, no thinking person would want to live in a majority black city like Cleveland, Detroit, or New Orleans where crime and corruption are rampant, and HIV rates among blacks in Detroit is comparable to some African countries.

Were the immigrants illegals? Will read article....

And for all the racist's whinging, we can also assume that no thinking person would want to live in a trailer park nor East European cities where white crime is rampant, nor rates of drug abuse and infectious disease low.

Actually many people like Cleveland, Detroit, and New Orleans, and choose to live there. I live part of the year in New York, and enjoy it despite the fact that it has crime problems as well.

There's some places in MI I would definitely not want to live due to racial tension. There were stories in the news that blacks were having swastikas painted on their property in suburbs outside of Detroit. There was at least 1 story in the news about an incident like that for like 3 months straight.

I have an uncle who had his dog stolen when he moved to a city called Howell, Mi ( a city that is popular for racist bigotry). Alot of KKK out there is what they tell me.

Welcome to America

I'm shocked that I didnt hear of this in the MSM. Did anyone?

And for all the racist's whinging, we can also assume that no thinking person would want to live in a trailer park nor East European cities where white crime is rampant, nor rates of drug abuse and infectious disease low.There's still most of Western Europe which is still pretty nice (where the muslims haven't taken over).

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whoa.....

Dropped the case like a hot potato? Are you sure about that? She was getting good coverage on CNN up until Katrina hit, and even after I've seen a few reports about it. If that's what you call the media dropping a story, well then I'd hate to see a media blitz in your world.

To me going from cosntant coverage to occasional coverage is droppage.