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The sudden and almost fear mongering approach of the media and governments concerning the Bird Flu raises a few questions. It would seem that bird flu has existed since birds have existed and one important question might be, what elements are creating this new “inevitable threat”?

I recall raising chickens and have had no experiences with adult chickens and “flu” but a common problem with raising chicks is that if they even get a slight chill they will develop a “cold” and if not immediately treated the chick will more than likely die. I have treated a number of chicks with cold symptoms, “running nose” and at times “leg paralysis” where what I saw. Treatment with cyanine pepper, protection from drafts brought the chicks back. I don’t know if these “colds” were related in anyway to “bird flu”.

I do recall one of the dirtiest jobs on the farm as being cleaning the chicken coop. I would prefer cleaning the cow barn or pig barn before dealing with chicken ****. Even a flock of a couple of dozen birds made a cleaning job that was not very pleasant and if you breathed much of the dust in the cleaning process you were almost always guaranteed a cold.

Since corporate farming has almost totally destroyed family farming, the methods used to raise animals have taken on a more factory and much less humane approach. In the raising of chickens thousands of birds are crowded together, there habit of scratching creates much dust for them to breath. Corporate farming has also created a narrowing of the gene pool of birds and a massive increase in the use of chemical medicines, medicated feeds and who knows what base for feeds. You can almost bet chickens are fed to chickens.

So a legitimate question might be is the solution to the problem the creation of questionable vaccines or should we look at corporate farming methods and even question the need for meat in the human diet.

"The SARS "pandemic" eventually faded away, but not without leaving a deep impression. A high pitched media campaign had convinced the world it was facing a great threat when in reality SARS turned out to be a comparably minor disease with 8.500 infected world wide and around 812 deaths. Compare that to CDC figures of 36.000 flu related deaths yearly in the U.S. alone. Or compare it with the mayhem of more than 100.000 U.S. deaths from the damaging effects of pharmaceutical drugs in the same time span."

"The researchers, from the influenza branch of the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta, will mate H5N1 and human flu viruses in a process known as reassortment. Viable offspring will be tested in animals thought to be good surrogates for humans, to see if the viruses can infect, can be transmitted easily from infected animals to healthy ones and to note the severity of disease each provokes. In other words, the CDC researchers will be deliberately engineering viruses of pandemic potential. It's high-risk but crucial work, the influenza community insists."

Source (http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2005/03/02/bird_flu_sars_biowarfare_or_a_pandemic_of_propagan da.htm)

Some say mad cow desease comes from the feed . Feed for chics, cows and pigs is made up of other chics,cows and pigs ! :eek7: . Making these animals cannabols . Not to speak of the fact that cows and pigs are not flesh eaters . Then add all the hormones, antibiotics and other drugs .

Now that they raise salmon in ' farms ', it too is not healthy . I buy it marked ' wild '. But thats probly another trick , like the so called ,' grown in USA ' produce .

Organic garden sites have info on alot of this . but beware, theres more witches there than you can shake a broom at . Tree huggers and animal worshippers too . I was banned from one of these 'dens' .

Some say mad cow desease comes from the feed . Feed for chics, cows and pigs is made up of other chics,cows and pigs ! :eek7: . Making these animals cannabols . Not to speak of the fact that cows and pigs are not flesh eaters . Then add all the hormones, antibiotics and other drugs .

Now that they raise salmon in ' farms ', it too is not healthy . I buy it marked ' wild '. But thats probly another trick , like the so called ,' grown in USA ' produce .

Organic garden sites have info on alot of this . but beware, theres more witches there than you can shake a broom at . Tree huggers and animal worshippers too . I was banned from one of these 'dens' .
Yes feed is filled with stuff and chicken sh-t is considered one of the best sources of protein that is fed to all other animals.

Eat organic meats

Many consumers will be surprised to find that tens of millions of pounds of antimicrobials are used in livestock systems. We estimate that every year livestock producers in the United States use 24.6 million pounds of antimicrobials in the absence of disease for nontherapeutic purposes: approximately 10.3 million pounds in hogs, 10.5 million pounds in poultry, and 3.7 million pounds in cattle. The tonnage would be even higher if antimicrobials used therapeutically for animals were included

Link (http://www.ucsusa.org/food_and_environment/antibiotics_and_food/hogging-it-estimates-of-antimicrobial-abuse-in-livestock.html)

8 times more antimicrobial are given to livestock ... (the great majority for non-therapeutic use to offset the crowded and unsanitary conditions in factory farms ) ... than are given to humans in the US

Cattle are also given steroids and hormones to stimulate production and improve feed efficiency ... beef was remove from cattle feed by US law in order to prevent mad-cow from spreading here ... but by and large we are like medical guinea pigs by consuming meat produced in such an unnatural manner

Whenever it is available we buy organic or free range meat at the store

It's also a fact that people who raise animals are exposed to more pathogens than the average person.
This is why Native Americans in North and South America were practically wiped out by European diseases. Europeans had immunities to a lot of diseases from working with livestock for generations. Natives in the New World didn't have the same immunities.
So, I think viruses passing from species to species is nothing new. We just understand the cause better now than the last time the problem happened, which was 1918.

Yes feed is filled with stuff and chicken sh-t is considered one of the best sources of protein that is fed to all other animals.

See, chickens' bodies are not very efficient digesters; they only consume 40% of the nutrients. So, they put chicken **** into the cow feed. I say they are being good naturalists like say...the romanticize Amerindian (ie who used every bit of the buffalo :D ).

Some credible source you got there. :rolleyes:

Actually the government banned chicken**** from cattle feed but Cows are still allowed to eat feeds that can include parts of pigs, fish, chicken, horses, even cats or dogs. And some of those animals -- before being rendered and mixed up for cattle feed -- are raised on food containing the same cow parts now banned from cattle consumption.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/158359_feed28.html