http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/632915.html

"A powerful earthquake registering 7.6 on the Richter scale flattened villages in South Asia on Saturday, killing hundreds of people in Pakistan and India. Pakistan's army described the damage as widespread and said entire villages were buried by quake-induced landslides."

What the hell is going on?

I mean - in the world.

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/632915.html

"A powerful earthquake registering 7.6 on the Richter scale flattened villages in South Asia on Saturday, killing hundreds of people in Pakistan and India. Pakistan's army described the damage as widespread and said entire villages were buried by quake-induced landslides."

What the hell is going on?

I mean - in the world.

Well, you remember the tsnuami?

Well that was caused by tectonic plates moving to relieve stress, but when the stress is released in one area it is created in others, and this is one of those new stress points releasing. You can look for a few more on the edges of those plates before the issue is sorted out.

I blame it on global warming and Dubya.

*blows brains out and liberal dunce cap off with a shortgun"

I note the absence of clerics in America claiming that "God is punishing the Infidels of Pakistan and India" and the lack of dancing in the streets by the American People in celebration of this disaster.

Just sayin'.

This is tragic !! And its increasing all over the world .

I think this un-Godly world is comming into a new age soon . One where no more suffering or violence will rule . At least I hope so . But first we have to go through labor pains of this new birth .

Wheres Bin ladens press on this ? I haven't seen any street dancing either . Maybe us infidels have compassion .

I tempted to say that the Goddess must be 30X more pissed off at Pakistan than She is at America - but I don't believe that natural disasters are divine punishment.

Humans being victims of the accidents of nature is an age old phenomenon. The difference between then and now is that our poor custodianship of the planet has led to massive population concentrations sheltered in shoddy infrastructure. We would be better off as a species emphasizing quality over quantity.

In other news,

Americans rush food,water and medical aid to stricken Pakistani's and Indians. Other countries stand by in disbeleif as aid that was slated for Hurricane Katrina victims is re-routed to the earthquake stricken region of Something-or-Other-i-stan.

Bush is quoted as saying that Americans must tolerate this seeming callous move by it's own gov't because Bush is acting in accordance with God's Will. Which God ? He won't say ...


(It's a joke, people).

Humans being victims of the accidents of nature is an age old phenomenon. The difference between then and now is that our poor custodianship of the planet has led to massive population concentrations sheltered in shoddy infrastructure. We would be better off as a species emphasizing quality over quantity.

(emphasis on the last sentence added by yours truly)

Boedicca, that sounds dangerously close to advocating Eugenics.

Absolutely not. I am advocating responsible reproduction and raising children to be healthy adults - on a purely voluntary basis.

It's not a coincidence that as societies advance and lifespans lengthen, that the birth rate falls. Unfortunately, spirituality has been replaced by materialism in our society today, so that the quality of our culture is degraded.

Again, we would be better off as a species if we emphasized quality of quantity. In developing nations, this means having smaller families so that less stress is placed on the environment (developing nations are the worst polluters on the planet). In developed nations, this means reversing the trend of gross consumerism and disposability that is used to anesthetize people for the pain of neglecting their spirituality.

Absolutely not. I am advocating responsible reproduction and raising children to be healthy adults - on a purely voluntary basis.

Responsbile reproduction and proper raising of children ?

You can't do that ! That imposes too much on the liberal agenda ! (sarcasm)

Anyway, that does sound like something I could go along with. Except, I'd make it more than 'voluntary' ... I'd put in tax incentives to encourage this kind of behaviour.

Earth quakes have nothing to do with global warming...

India is a future superpower, they maybe poor but they are quite effective in responding to disasters. Some report over 20,000 killed, I hope it isn't that high.

Well, you remember the tsnuami?

Well that was caused by tectonic plates moving to relieve stress, but when the stress is released in one area it is created in others, and this is one of those new stress points releasing. You can look for a few more on the edges of those plates before the issue is sorted out.

And how long it is going to take.?
For them to "sort out"?

And how long it is going to take.?
For them to "sort out"?

in about 534,349,029 years 2 months and 3 days ;)

It is worth noting that the earthquake was centered in the area that many believe Osama Bin Laden is hiding in

we can only hope he was one of the 30,000 + killed

It is worth noting that the earthquake was centered in the area that many believe Osama Bin Laden is hiding in

we can only hope he was one of the 30,000 + killed


That would be Totally AWSUM, dood!

If he and his pond-scum sucking followers were the only casualties, I would have to rethink my viewpoint on Divine Punishment.

Intresting read about the Pashtun peoples in northern Pakistan

http://www.pakistanchristianpost.com/newsviewsdetails.php?newsid=28

When a male child is born in a Pashtun village, gunfire is the first sound he hears. Pashtun men celebrate the birth of a brand-new warrior by firing their rifles into the sky, and the lead falls back to the powdery earth like drops of hard rain.

And why OBL probably is there ...

http://www.csmonitor.com/2001/1015/p7s1-wosc.html

"Mr. bin Laden approached Pashtun leaders in the Taliban after he arrived in May 1996 as a refuge seeker," he says. "They considered his case on its merits and granted him their protection. Once this protection is given to a man, the family or tribe may perish but the protection cannot be violated. At the moment, I'm sure that if offered [a choice between] a nuclear attack and handing over bin Laden, the Pashtuns would, at this time, accept the nuclear attack."

Hopefully, this earthquake will put a damper on Muslim Terrorism worldwide.

...We would be better off as a species emphasizing quality over quantity.

Excellent point.

Earth quakes have nothing to do with global warming...

India is a future superpower, they maybe poor but they are quite effective in responding to disasters. Some report over 20,000 killed, I hope it isn't that high.
What I've heard on local (NZ) radio, is 30,000... I'll be turning on the BBC WS soon, to hear what they say (more reliable, IMO).

One of our MPs is from Pakistan, he was on the news registering his distress.

It is worth noting that the earthquake was centered in the area that many believe Osama Bin Laden is hiding in

we can only hope he was one of the 30,000 + killed
What an unpleasant thing to say...
That would be Totally AWSUM, dood!

If he and his pond-scum sucking followers were the only casualties, I would have to rethink my viewpoint on Divine Punishment.
I would have expected this from you, Bo. But is wishing for the death of people an American thing? Because to me, it's just sick... especially as you know nothing at all about OBL... it just suited your jackass Pretzeldent to ping him for 9/11.

Hopefully, this earthquake will put a damper on Muslim Terrorism worldwide.



Excellent point.
Once again, the American ill-wishing of 'foreigners'. Yet, the screaming would be heard for years if anyone said they hoped that 'Katrina' would stop the Bush Administration killing people for a day or two.. You people are all so full of hatred it's scary. I didn't used to believe Americans were really as bad as TV shows like '24' and any given cop show would imply. But coming to DA and seeing all the expression of hatred and wishing for terror and death to others - man, it's psychotic!

I am now waiting for Kanye to say, "Bush don't like Pakistani people."

My condolences to the families. Red Cross will need our help again.

I would have expected this from you, Bo. But is wishing for the death of people an American thing? Because to me, it's just sick... especially as you know nothing at all about OBL... it just suited your jackass Pretzeldent to ping him for 9/11.




Wishing for the death of someone who murdered 3,000 people by orchestrating the use of jets as guided missiles is perfectly reasonable, imo.

The world would be a better place without a sociopath like OBL. If you think he is just an innocent, misunderstood little mullah-wannabe, then so be it. DeNial aint' just a river in Egypt.

its awfull, so many dead.
give money.

oki, I understand that the US is once again providing all kinds of help including $50,000,000, but it is crazy. How can throwing money at them help the situation?

Della April, your equating the Bush administration to Muslim Terrorists means that you are either insane or you simply a radical communist, Muslim Terrorist sympathizer who hates America.

Every weekend I make it a habit to completely isolate myself in every way from the outside world, no internet, not TV so this is the first I've heard of this terrible event. I just have to say that no amount of money is going to help anyone in the long run when they live in primitive houses of earth and straw. I'm sure someone has already mentioned this but wouldn't it be fantastic if the one good thing to come out of all of this was a dead Osama? Nobody deserves it more.

Remember Muslim Terrorism exists because more than half support it. As long as the victims were Muslim Terrorist sympathizers, the more the merrier.

As you indicate 86Dude, how can money help these third world hellholes? Any money tossed around will invariably end up in the pockets of various left wing groups and other scam artists.

I don't know who's pockets will get lined Snouter, but in the end I have serious doubts that it will have a positive, preventative effect. 3rd world countries don't make giant leaps into the modern world overnight.

The money clearly does not buy friendship with the savage elements in third world countries. In fact, it increases their contempt of the civilized world by them.

Wishing for the death of someone who murdered 3,000 people by orchestrating the use of jets as guided missiles is perfectly reasonable, imo.

LOL!!!! Bo, you really believe OBL had anything to do with it? That's just sad.


Della April, your equating the Bush administration to Muslim Terrorists means that you are either insane or you simply a radical communist, Muslim Terrorist sympathizer who hates America.
Rationalisation, Snouter. Like the other posts you've done - all just rationalisations and excuses not to give any $$$... Radical communist? Tee hee... Look, dude, I am less and less a believer of the 'official story' about 9/11 than I ever was before.
Remember Muslim Terrorism exists because more than half support it. As long as the victims were Muslim Terrorist sympathizers, the more the merrier.

As you indicate 86Dude, how can money help these third world hellholes? Any money tossed around will invariably end up in the pockets of various left wing groups and other scam artists.
Excuses. Surely y'all can afford $10.00? But you'd rather rationalise miserliness.

LOL!!!! Bo, you really believe OBL had anything to do with it? That's just sad.




Excuses. Surely y'all can afford $10.00? But you'd rather rationalise miserliness.[/QUOTE]

LOL!!!! Bo, you really believe OBL had anything to do with it? That's just sad.

Enough already, you've gone mad.



Excuses. Surely y'all can afford $10.00? But you'd rather rationalise miserliness.

Again, as usual, you miss the point entirely. Those ten dollars will do plenty of good short term, but what about long term? How do you keep a third world roof from caving in on it's inhabitants next time? Why should it be MY responsibility to finance that prevention? Hell, I'd think you'd be happy by now. How much aid does the U.S. give to Pakistan each year?

Excuses. Surely y'all can afford $10.00? But you'd rather rationalise miserliness.[/QUOTE]
'Scuse me? Did you get confiused? Poor wee thing...

Again, as usual, you miss the point entirely. Those ten dollars will do plenty of good short term, but what about long term? How do you keep a third world roof from caving in on it's inhabitants next time? Why should it be MY responsibility to finance that prevention? Hell, I'd think you'd be happy by now. How much aid does the U.S. give to Pakistan each year?
Blowed if I know how much 'aid' the US gives to Pakistan each year, but I do know Pervez Musharraf (leader there) is a US puppet ruler, so any 'aid' is probably military.
Regarding OBL, 9/11 and the whole story, have a look at this. (A friend just sent it to me).
Article on the 9/11 commission (http://ptpi.net/wot/pilger_on_standdown.htm)
Surely something like that ought to make even the most closed-minded American question what he's been and is being told?
Somerthing else to read (I hope it doesn't make you blow a gasket - if you read it at all...)
Re OBL (http://ptpi.net/wtc7.htm)

Wheres Bin ladens press on this ? I haven't seen any street dancing either . Maybe us infidels have compassion .
You right wingers don't sound like you have any compassion, bleating on about 1999 file footage of celebration passed off as celebration of the WTC attacks. :rolleyes:

Anyway, that does sound like something I could go along with. Except, I'd make it more than 'voluntary' ... I'd put in tax incentives to encourage this kind of behaviour.
Tax incentives only have any meaning to people earning a significant amount. Remember a small percentage of bugger all is squat. Tax breaks are welfare for the wealthy.

India is a future superpower, they maybe poor but they are quite effective in responding to disasters. Some report over 20,000 killed, I hope it isn't that high.
They may not be the only ones but India said no thanks to aid after the tsunami and took care of it themselves.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2001/1015/p7s1-wosc.html
Quote:
"Mr. bin Laden approached Pashtun leaders in the Taliban after he arrived in May 1996 as a refuge seeker," he says. "They considered his case on its merits and granted him their protection. Once this protection is given to a man, the family or tribe may perish but the protection cannot be violated. At the moment, I'm sure that if offered [a choice between] a nuclear attack and handing over bin Laden, the Pashtuns would, at this time, accept the nuclear attack."
:bowrofl:The christian science monitor is an authoritive source now is it?

You right wingers don't sound like you have any compassion, bleating on about 1999 file footage of celebration passed off as celebration of the WTC attacks. :rolleyes:


Wearing Bin Laden T-shirts ? :confused: Get real !

If i was there I'd do what I could to save all of them . But it isn't easy to feel for people who want you dead ! :eek7:

They may not be the only ones but India said no thanks to aid after the tsunami and took care of it themselves.


They didn't want the coffers to get low where most of their bussines is [ America ] . The brothels keep them rolling in dough there . :eek7:

who hates America.
It always amases me that americans think being accused of hateing the USA has any particular gravity to anyone outside the USA. The USA is just a country like any other. No more no less, more of a threat to world peace than any other but that's a 'nother story...

:bowrofl:The christian science monitor is an authoritive source now is it?


Better than the ' Bin Laden Journal '. :rolleyes:

I note the absence of clerics in America claiming that "God is punishing the Infidels of Pakistan and India" and the lack of dancing in the streets by the American People in celebration of this disaster.

Just sayin'.
Want to also comment on Pat Robertson's remarks about Katrina/Rita?

It always amases me that americans think being accused of hateing the USA has any particular gravity to anyone outside the USA. The USA is just a country like any other. No more no less, more of a threat to world peace than any other but that's a 'nother story...


Then why don't the ' world 'stay the heck out of the USA if its so bad ? Go beg and rip off another nation thats ' good ' .

What world peace ? You mean the ' peaceful ' way most nations steal their citizens money and starve the hell out of them , allow others to come in and kill their citizens . These peaceful stinking nations ,including yours most of all !! Why don't you go put your elders and sick young to death and tell me about peace [ eutharnasia ] !

Remember Muslim Terrorism exists because more than half support it. As long as the victims were Muslim Terrorist sympathizers, the more the merrier.
"more than half support it"? gee I must have missed the interviewing of 25% of the worlds population. Surely such a massive undertaking would have been on the news somewhere. Or is that something else sourced from the christian science monitor?
Della April is right about the double standards.

As you indicate 86Dude, how can money help these third world hellholes? Any money tossed around will invariably end up in the pockets of various left wing groups and other scam artists.
Pakistan is lead by a facist military government (ie right wing) which is a friend to the shrub administration.

Rationalisation, Snouter. Like the other posts you've done - all just rationalisations and excuses not to give any $$$...

The lack of sense in your comments about my posts is equivalent to the lack of sense in your position that the policy of stopping Muslim Terrorism is the same as Muslim Terrorism itself. But why give money when insane conspiracy theorists complain that it goes to the Muslim Terrorists historically? Explain how US dollars can help economies that worship a black stone in Mecca, beat their women, and hang around all day occasionally walking their donkey.

Tee hee... Look, dude, I am less and less a believer of the 'official story' about 9/11 than I ever was before.

I would be interested in what "story" you believe since all the conspiracy theories are flawed and make no sense. But that shouldn't stop you from trying based on your previous posts. :p

Blowed if I know how much 'aid' the US gives to Pakistan each year, but I do know Pervez Musharraf (leader there) is a US puppet ruler, so any 'aid' is probably military.

Why is it that you leftists always use the buzzword "puppet" in reference to a friend of the USA?

The christian science monitor is an authoritive source now is it?

:p What is wrong with the Christian Science Monitor as a publication? It has been around a lot longer than you have.

It always amases me that americans think being accused of hateing the USA has any particular gravity to anyone outside the USA. The USA is just a country like any other. No more no less, more of a threat to world peace than any other but that's a 'nother story...

What is even more amusing is the infantile denial of the position of the USA in the world today. This is the result of leftist, multicultural brainwashing and is so damn predicatable. :p

If i was there I'd do what I could to save all of them . But it isn't easy to feel for people who want you dead !
Oh so, what?, you're raceist? You wand people dead because they're of indian decent?

They didn't want the coffers to get low where most of their bussines is [ America ] . The brothels keep them rolling in dough there . :eek7:
Oh now I get it, reality and you aren't close.

Better than the ' Bin Laden Journal '. :rolleyes:
What bin laden journal pappy? Here in reality where gnomes are made from concrete or plastic, there isn't such a thing and some publication calling itself "christian science monitor" interviewing tealeaves doesn't count as a source.

Then why don't the ' world 'stay the heck out of the USA if its so bad ? Go beg and rip off another nation thats ' good ' .
beg and rip off? what are you smoking? Why doesn't the USA try staying out of the world's business. Speaking as a member of the rest of the world, there's a great deal (well most actually) that have no desire at all to be "in" the US.

What world peace ? You mean the ' peaceful ' way most nations steal their citizens money and starve the hell out of them , allow others to come in and kill their citizens . These peaceful stinking nations ,including yours most of all !! Why don't you go put your elders and sick young to death and tell me about peace [ eutharnasia ] !
:bowrofl: What ever you're smoking I'd like some if it weren't so bad for my lungs. "including yours most of all !!" - that's classic. Mine's doing better than your's at the moment and mine hasn't been killing tens of thousands either.

What is wrong with the Christian Science Monitor as a publication? It has been around a lot longer than you have.
Well the name for a start. Makes about as much sense as 'the jewish hindu times'. I mean, really, come on. And that's before reading the thing.

What is even more amusing is the infantile denial of the position of the USA in the world today. This is the result of leftist, multicultural brainwashing and is so damn predicatable. :p
multicultural = bad? sounds like Snouter = racist_sheep_chaser. Oh and the rest of that "infantile denial of the position of the USA in the world today." - eww I hope there's a plastic cover on your keyboard. You sound like a nationalist german of the late 30s

Blowed if I know how much 'aid' the US gives to Pakistan each year, but I do know Pervez Musharraf (leader there) is a US puppet ruler, so any 'aid' is probably military.
Regarding OBL, 9/11 and the whole story, have a look at this. (A friend just sent it to me).
Article on the 9/11 commission (http://ptpi.net/wot/pilger_on_standdown.htm)
Surely something like that ought to make even the most closed-minded American question what he's been and is being told?
Somerthing else to read (I hope it doesn't make you blow a gasket - if you read it at all...)
Re OBL (http://ptpi.net/wtc7.htm)

I messed up my previous posts, obviously, but not because of confusion.

Wouldn't Musharraf have to have been placed in power by the U.S. in order to qualify him as a puppet dictator? Will you please show some sign of rational thought when it comes to U.S. foreign policy? At best Pakistan and the U.S. share an umcomfortable relationship based purely on necessity.

Well I'm off home from work. Here's something for the righ wingers among you
http://www.protectcovers.com/

beg and rip off? what are you smoking? Why doesn't the USA try staying out of the world's business. Speaking as a member of the rest of the world, there's a great deal (well most actually) that have no desire at all to be "in" the US.


:bowrofl: What ever you're smoking I'd like some if it weren't so bad for my lungs. "including yours most of all !!" - that's classic. Mine's doing better than your's at the moment and mine hasn't been killing tens of thousands either.



I've accepted the outcome of my vices . have you ?

I'm starting to understand why a fantasy movie like Lord Of The Rings was filmed in New Zealand.

86Dude :p

Well the name for a start. Makes about as much sense as 'the jewish hindu times'. I mean, really, come on. And that's before reading the thing.

:p It is amusing when a left wing bigot openly admits complete ignorance of the issues.

multicultural = bad? sounds like Snouter = racist_sheep_chaser. Oh and the rest of that "infantile denial of the position of the USA in the world today." - eww I hope there's a plastic cover on your keyboard. You sound like a nationalist german of the late 30s

On no, a leftist bigot is using the fatal buzzword of "racist." Everyone knows there isn't a meaningless buzzword more devastating. Oh the pain, I don't know how I can post again. Then the leftest bigot followed it up with a reference to Nazi's. :eek: How predictable can a left wing bigot be? :p :rofl:

And yes, multiculturalism is total :bs:

As the great Thomas Sowell has pointed out: "Multiculturalism can be summarized as a cultural relavatism which finds the prominence of Western civilization in the world...intolerable. Behind this attitude is often the seething hostility to the West."

Della April, your equating the Bush administration to Muslim Terrorists means that you are either insane or you simply a radical communist, Muslim Terrorist sympathizer who hates America.


^ That would be the correct motorcycle.

Want to also comment on Pat Robertson's remarks about Katrina/Rita?

For which he was resoundingly criticized and condemned. Try again.

Pakistan is lead by a facist military government (ie right wing) which is a friend to the shrub administration.


Please tell me that NZ has a forced sterilization policy. It will help me sleep better at night.

Della isn't communist or a terrorist, she just hates America.

The only explanation that I can come up with is that she is under the influence of a secret mind control device invented by Jane Fonda and secret left wing factions of the Illuminati and the CIA. This link proves it: http://You'reaRealDumbassifyouclickthislink.com

How predictable can a left wing bigot be?
The guy who thinks multicultural equals bad calls me a bigot? :nice: That's funny, terribly sad but funny.

If i was there I'd do what I could to save all of them . But it isn't easy to feel for people who want you dead !

]They didn't want the coffers to get low where most of their bussines is [ America ] . The brothels keep them rolling in dough there .
Been talking to Wally-Bob down to the General Store, again, Pappy? How is Bugtussle these days?

Why is it that you leftists always use the buzzword "puppet" in reference to a friend of the USA?

Then the leftest bigot followed it up with a reference to Nazi's. How predictable can a left wing bigot be?

Er, Musharaf is a puppet. He took power in a military coup in about 2000, backed by the Americans.
A few bits of advice, Snouter... Apostrophes are not used in plurals, so 'nazi's' is wrong. 'Leftest' is a comparative - as in left, lefter, leftest... the word you wanted was leftist.

Please tell me that NZ has a forced sterilization policy. It will help me sleep better at night.
Not funny at all....