http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-09-12-katrina-poll_x.htm?csp=1

...But a USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll taken Thursday through Sunday finds a stark racial divide on other issues, including attitudes toward the hurricane's victims, the performance of President Bush and the reasons the government's early response was so wanting. (Related item: Poll results http://www.usatoday.com/news/polls/2005-09-12-poll-blacks.htm )

Six in 10 African-Americans say the fact that most hurricane victims were poor and black was one reason the federal government failed to come to the rescue more quickly. Whites reject that idea; nearly 9 in 10 say those weren't factors...

The racial divide — which underscores the different perspectives whites and blacks have on some aspects of life in America — could affect the debate over addressing poverty and rebuilding the Gulf Coast in the hurricane's wake.

"Some of the concern I'm hearing (from blacks) is that New Orleans is going to be rebuilt but gentrified in such a way that they can't go back," says Michael Fauntroy, a political scientist at George Mason University who has studied relations between blacks and the GOP. The administration needs to allay those fears or risk "long-term negative consequences," he says.

In any case, Republican efforts this year to reach out to black voters have not been helped. In the survey, African-Americans by 74%-16% have an unfavorable opinion of the GOP. By more than 3-to-1, they say Bush doesn't care about black people. By more than 2-to-1, whites say he does....

Duh. After days of listening to the Race Baiters in the Liberal Media cackle about how the response was racist and blah blah blah, is it any wonder that the brainwashing hasn't taken hold in some?

I wish the race-baiters would go out of business...but as long as there is tons of cash to be made off of the suffering of others, I suspect they'll be around for a long long time...

This insanity is related to what I was discussing with ResidentRice on another thread. The left wing media, multiculturalism, the anti-White government (democrats) and pseudo government race hustlers (Sharpton, Jackson and BET celebrities) have literally brainwashed an entire demographic of people. As pathetic as it is, it is amazing to behold.

The reality is that if this happened to Whites only, they would not even be reporting about it at this point which is probably why we never hear about the other storms which caused even more deaths in the USA.

Actually, I don't think black people believe this stuff. But, I do think they (generally) believe they should say they do because they think they might get some "free" stuff. They do (generally) tend to be the types that say "I want to get mine".

Duh. After days of listening to the Race Baiters in the Liberal Media cackle about how the response was racist and blah blah blah, is it any wonder that the brainwashing hasn't taken hold in some?

This isn't necessarily related to race baiting. It is imputed that the lack of response was economically motivated as well as racial, and both go hand in hand to a certain degree.

Remember that the wording of the poll that we are seeing the results of was 'poor and black'. That doesn't allow you to know how much people are considering it was due to the blackness of the constituants, and how much they are considering it was due to their poverty.

M.

Actually, I don't think black people believe this stuff. But, I do think they (generally) believe they should say they do because they think they might get some "free" stuff. They do (generally) tend to be the types that say "I want to get mine".

So you think the people answering th poll thought they might get given some 'free stuff' if they answered the poll a certain way?

Hehe. That's silly.

M.

So you think the people answering th poll thought they might get given some 'free stuff' if they answered the poll a certain way?

Hehe. That's silly.

M.Yes, I do think that.

It is completely related to race baiting and misinformation.

Their was no deliberate delay. There was incompetent crisis management at the state and local level. Once the Feds arrived (which happened much more quickly than has been reported), the situation started improving.

I didn't read the replies until I posted after reading Spab's post. Nice to see you guys, except Malcolm of course, can see through the article and to the truth.

Imagine if the Feds had anticipated the massive incompetence of the state and local government in Louisiana and were there too soon. The conspiracy theorists would be complaining of a military take over of a democrat dominated state. :p

I honestly do not believe that rescue efforts were stalled or anything of the sort due to the color of their skin. It had to do with the conditions, and the direction of the efforts.

I think its unfair for them to play the race card here - it makes it seem like all of us who care for them were really hoping they'd drown or something! Makes me sad. :nonono:

Imagine if the Feds had anticipated the massive incompetence of the state and local government in Louisiana and were there too soon. The conspiracy theorists would be complaining of a military take over of a democrat dominated state. :p


Correction: of a largely African-American populated and democrat dominated state.

It is completely related to race baiting and misinformation.

Their was no deliberate delay. There was incompetent crisis management at the state and local level. Once the Feds arrived (which happened much more quickly than has been reported), the situation started improving.

You are claiming that the entire body of the press lied about how quickly, or slowly in this case, aid arrived?

Of course there was incompetent crisis management, and the poll doesn't specify that the delay was necessarily deliberate. The question is, had the disaster zone been Beverley Hills and Malibu, would the crisis management have been as incompetent?

M.

You are claiming that the entire body of the press lied about how quickly, or slowly in this case, aid arrived?

Of course there was incompetent crisis management, and the poll doesn't specify that the delay was necessarily deliberate. The question is, had the disaster zone been Beverley Hills and Malibu, would the crisis management have been as incompetent?

M.

That depends. Is Ah-nold more competent than Blanco? Since the feds responded more quickly than they did to most recent disasters, it seems that the real delay was at the local end.

Bush himself said the response was dismal. Whether it was racist is the question. Clearly blacks in vast majority think so.

The importance isn't necessarily whether the grindingly slow response was racist or not. The importance is that the GOP is taking a major credibility hit with a huge segment of the population.

I honestly do not believe that rescue efforts were stalled or anything of the sort due to the color of their skin. It had to do with the conditions, and the direction of the efforts.

I think its unfair for them to play the race card here - it makes it seem like all of us who care for them were really hoping they'd drown or something! Makes me sad. :nonono:

Hey, like I said, you are assuming the race card is being played, when half of the language is about economics. Poor and black.
The poll doesn't allow you to assume that those responding were necessarily referring to the black in 'poor and black'.

And it doesn't make it seem like those of us that care were hoping they would drown. Try not to take it personally.

Blacks of the south have a long history of being mistreated, as you know. Can you blame some blacks for seeing echoes of the old racism in the mismanagment of this disaster, regardless of whether it is there or not (and the jury is still out on that one)? Have a bit of understanding.

The fact is, evacuation plans and structural maintenance for an affluent region (which still tend to be mainly white areas) are going to receive more attention and funding. It would be foolish to expect poor, black people not to see this. There is nothing personal in this observation, and you should not take it to reflect on you and how much you care.

M.

That depends. Is Ah-nold more competent than Blanco? Since the feds responded more quickly than they did to most recent disasters, it seems that the real delay was at the local end.

That's not at all the picture I'm getting. FEMA has been charged with gross incompetence. They turned back a plethora of offers of help from a wide array of offerers, including medical workers who were given the run around, and could not get FEMA to return their calls, let alone use them.

Look into it Hadit: Fema is being accused across the board of turning away people and resources which could have prevented alot of the loss of life.

M.

M, it's not that they don't know the truth. It's that they don't care. All they care about is a new plethora of tax cuts that benefits them personally.

M, it's not that they don't know the truth. It's that they don't care. All they care about is a new plethora of tax cuts that benefits them personally.

In the cases of some people, I think you are right.

M.

I could use a tax cut. But I don't think a 60 billion dollar bailout for a town that wasn't worth 10 billion in the first place, on top of a 300 billion dollar war for a country that you couldn't pay me to take, is gonna spell tax cut for me.

As long as Uncle Sam is paying top dollar for poopsville, why not invade Haiti?

Wait...already did that.

OK, Panama then.

Wait....

OK, let's blow a wad on Afghani....

Shoot. Never mind.