any more.
They allready went back to their old selves - blaming Israel allready here.

http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/45884734/critiques/Synagogue_Desecrations.asp

No Offense coral, but this victim mentality you have is getting old. From what I can see, Israel isn't treated that badly on the world stage, certianly not any worse than countries such as the US and the UK. You just seem to feel that all reporting should have to be pro isreali, or 100% accurate. Neither is going to happen. If the World, and especially countries such as US and UK, are really Anti-israeli, why do we still give you money, and big trade contracts, and support?

You complain that the media is pro palestinian, can I remind you that the UK had to put up with citizens of its largests ally funding a terrorist organisation against it. And the UK never resorted to the childish cry that the whole world is against it. And I am pretty sure if you look back over the last century or so, you will find ALOT more bias against the UK round the world than you will against Israel.

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lilnymph

I think their is a media bias against Israel. This nation is what, the size of Conneticut, and they are surrounded by their sworn enemies. Sometimes defending one's self isn't pretty, but it has to be done in order to exist. That gets distorted in the politically correct US Media. Not sure about the UK.

They get treated pretty much exactly the same in the Media as the UK does over Northern Ireland, and the ex colonies. However you don't see the UK crying media bias all the time do you?

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lilnymph

No Offense coral, but this victim mentality you have is getting old.

I suppose you don't expect me to stop posting things about a issue I see important because you think it's "getting old".

I think she just proved your point.

I don't expect you to stop posting, just aslong as you dont expect me to stop telling you you are being biased against the BBC, and seeing things that aren't there, and simply having a victim mentality :)

The UK has been portrayed much worse than Israel is, and yet didn't feel the need to childishly cry that everyone was biased against it. And yes, it is childish. Your supposed to be a soverign nation. part of that is the fact that you are held accountable for your actions, and the fact that maybe not everyone in the world will like you, or will judge your actions by the same standards you do.

If you want an example, take a look at the amount of info spabs has posted on Northern Ireland on here. Most of what she posts is horribly biased.

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lilnymph

I don't expect you to stop posting, just aslong as you dont expect me to stop telling you you are being biased against the BBC, and seeing things that aren't there, and simply having a victim mentality :)



lilnymph

It's internet - every one has the write to talk and not listen. :)

But to put it staight - I don't see arousing the issue of anti-israeli bias again and again as whining, but as very nessecary figthing back.

IIf you want an example, take a look at the amount of info spabs has posted on Northern Ireland on here. Most of what she posts is horribly biased.

lilnymph

Sure, Spabys position remainds very much the world position about Israel.
But' let's put it this way - Spab is an exeption, the world - this kind of a different business...

I don't expect you to stop posting, just aslong as you dont expect me to stop telling you you are being biased against the BBC, and seeing things that aren't there, and simply having a victim mentality :)




So if coral continues to voice her opinion on an issue you will continue to post your derogatory opinion of her.

nice

IThe UK has been portrayed much worse than Israel is,
lilnymph

This part is only in your imagination.
As a representative of the outside word I can tell that the outside world was not that bothered by any british anti-terror measures.
This bad image of Britain because of this simply don't exist.
And don't start with the "bloody sunday" again.
You can compare how offen it is aroused on DA (or on google) with any event that can be turned against Israel starting 70 years ago and you will see the difference.

So if coral continues to voice her opinion on an issue you will continue to post your derogatory opinion of her.

nice

I think, Ras, you got it wrong.
Me and Lil getting alone fine and she has a right to see it that way.
Maybe we will be even able to convince her - she is not the "blind by choise" tipe.

I have nothing against lil at all (I would hope she knows that by now), but I think it's silly to say "if you continue to post your opinion of articles I'll continue to accuse you of personal bias"

I'm not just talking about that, I am talking about hangovers from the colonial days, europes view of us, ect.

There is alot of bias in the world Coral, you are simply "blinded" (for want of a better term) to just yours.

And Coral is right Ras, I like coral and get along fine. And I don't think she is blind by choice either, maybe I can convince her of the truth :)

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lilnymph

I have nothing against lil at all (I would hope she knows that by now), but I think it's silly to say "if you continue to post your opinion of articles I'll continue to accuse you of personal bias"

So its not silly for coral to keep posting about bias against isreali, but I am not allowed to post about bias against the bbc? that hardly seems very fair RAS ;)

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lilnymph

Can't you see how blind you both are?! You need me to keep sanity!!!


Meee!!!

http://www.angelfire.com/pa4/weller/blas.txt

Can't you see how blind you both are?! You need me to keep sanity!!!


Meee!!!

http://www.angelfire.com/pa4/weller/blas.txt

:) :) :)

With all due respect, Coral cares deeply about this topic for obvious reasons. I don't see her posts as whining so much as an attempt to bring light to this subject from the point of view of a person who is there and living with the threat of violence every single day.

And, Lil, maybe you don't think that the British complained about terrorist attacks against them, but it didn't seem that way to everybody. I would think that a healthy dose of complaining would be in order. In fact we heard it here in the states loud enough and it roused enough sympathy for many to want to participate in bringing the violence to an end. You may focus on a very small group of people who helped to fund terrorism, but I assure you, they are not the accepted norm in the US. They are criminals. Make no bones about it. Americans, many being descended from England and Ireland, cared very deeply about that. And still do. No one (who wasn't psychotic) saw those attacks as justified against the British. No one.

I don't say this to jump down your throat. I hope that you understand that, contrary to popular belief, Americans care very much about what happens in the rest of the world and never see terrorism as a justified means to an end.

Actually quite a fwe people in Boston and New York saw them as justified, because they have a very distorted view of life in northern Ireland, thanks to propaganda by the IRA (Which the American Governement refused to put an end to untill clinton, so thanks For that America). I never claimed that all americans, or even most of them condoned the violence in NI, However A large number did, and funded and armed the IRA, and helped it become the most efficenet terror organisation in the world. And the Influence of the American Government tied britian hands in some ways in dealing with it.

I am not saying people should complain about violence, they should, and I have done. I am saying that the world is not as biased solely against Israel as Coral thinks. Many countries, my own included, suffer the same amount of bias in the medis. However mine doesn't feel the need to childishly cry bias all the time. It simply gets on with it.

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lilnymph

I think you know that I'm screaming mostly about the western world "understanding" palestinian terror and running to condemn every action Israel takes to defence itself from this terror.

And about this repeating phenomenon

http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=2&x_article=974

Yep, kinda like what they did about the UK and the IRA.

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lilnymph

Yep, kinda like what they did about the UK and the IRA.

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lilnymph

Like repeatedly blaming UK in killing peopel that were killed by IRA?

However mine doesn't feel the need to childishly cry bias all the time.

Of course not. You continually blame the United States instead.

Go back and read your post and ones before that (in other threads as well) and count how many times you've managed to point a finger at the United States regarding the IRA.

And God forbid you should take into consideration that England is one of our closest allies who we've bailed out of the fire before. (World War II come to mind?) There are many Irish Americans, but the US considers itself very close to Britain. You haven't spent much time in the US methinks among Americans. If I'm wrong, by all means correct me. I'm simply amazed that you seem to know my fellow Americans better than I do.

Coral, it doesn't matter who gets blown up, where they get blown up or who actually detonated the explosive, it's either the fault of Israel or the Unted States. :rolleyes:

Coral, it doesn't matter who gets blown up, where they get blown up or who actually detonated the explosive, it's either the fault of Israel or the Unted States. :rolleyes:

It is...

I have only pointed out that the IRA was funded by american citizens. Its called the truth ;) I never claim to know all americans. I merely claim to know that some of them decided they want to fund people who kill british and irish people. And I have had alot of conversations about northern ireland with americans, some on here, to know the lack of real knowledge about the place that some americans have. I don't suggest the whole country is like this though

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lilnymph

That's okay, Shannon. You're entitled to your opinion, but it stuck me as a little hypocrital to accuse Coral of whining when I've read posts of yours that weren't much different. :)

I just don't see the point in posting to tell someone that you don't want to read what they are posting. I'd just ignore the thread.