UN Resolutions Against Israel, 1955-1992

Scroll down (if it pleases you). The top three-quarters of the page should show the 65 UN Resolutions that have been passed against Israel that they are ignore. The last quarter of the page will show you 30 UN Resolutions that America vetoed. This is the most current list I could find. Note that this has been going on for many years. It is not new. Also note that, to my knowledge, "nukes" are not addressed:

http://nowarforisrael.com/UN%20Resolutions.htm

So why should the U.S. go along with the thugs in the U.N. who use its thin sheen of legitimacy to attack Israel?

The U.N., as the most recent Volcker report proves, is a pathetic den of incompetency and corruption.

Arab countries have disproportionate influence in the utterly corrupt and impotent UN due to their near-monopoly on the bulk of the world's oil reserves. The UN has shown that it is beholden to oil interests no matter how egregious the source (oil-for-food scandal?).

Furthermore, there was a more than equitable plan of partition developed for the land of Israel via the UN in 1947 which would have given the Arabs all the land for which they are currently waging a campaign of terror against Israeli civilians to aqcuire, plus some. They rejected that plan. They wanted no less than the complete extermination of the state of Israel.

Many of the Arabs who "fled" Israel were quite wealthy, and did not think twice about abandoning the poorest Arabs, now known as "the palestinians". Jewish leaders at the time urged Arabs to remain and become citizens of Israel. Jewish settlers issued this statement around the time of the 1947 UN vote:

We will do everything in our power to maintain peace, and establish a cooperation gainful to both [Jews and Arabs]. It is now, here and now, from Jerusalem itself, that a call must go out to the Arab nations to join forces with Jewry and the destined Jewish State and work shoulder to shoulder for our common good, for the peace and progress of sovereign equals.



The bottom line, Killzone, is that these Arab countries still want what they wanted 60 years ago: the destruction of Israel.

I admit that surely not all common Arab citizens in the region hate all Jews or want this insane eternal war to continue. However, their wishes are irrelevant because they live under Arab dictatorships- and their leadership does not care about compromise or ending the conflict because they personally do not have to fight or sacrifice their livelihoods to continue the campaign of terror against Israel, as we shall see in a moment.

Because if the total destruction of Israel is not what they want then they sure have a funny way of showing it, i.e. a sustained campaign of terror against Jewish women and children, who incidentally are murdered by Palestinian women and children sent by the so-called Palestinian "freedom fighting" "men".

These same "freedom fighters" who send their children to be suicide bombers also do not hesitate to house their families in buildings where terrorist campaigns are planned and bombs to be used against Israeli civilians are constructed. They don't mind keeping their women and children there because when the IDF is sent to destroy these terror bases, the palestinian propagandists can garner sympathy by pointing to their own dead amilies who they willingly placed in a dangerous war zone (except for the human trash Yassar Arafat, who kept his own family in France, along with the many billions he stole from the palestinian people).

I can continue this narrative if you wish, but for now I urge you to try and lok up some facts from another course besides the oh-so-objective "nowarforIsrael" website.

but I should warn you that good facts on this issue can be hard to find. When i tried looking up some broad statistics on US foreign aid last night it was nearly impossible, becasue even typing in such general phrases as "US+foreign+aid" or "top+US+aid+recipients" returns as the top ten or so hits a laundry list of vehemntly anti-israel websites. It's hard to find sources for any discussion of US foreign aid besides Israel.

In other words, don't count on finding websites devoted to viciously decrying the $2 billion in aid which Egypt receives, or the many hundreds of millions which many other countries receive.

Nice site you have here.
Somebody really must to write a article about different angles of anti-israeli propaganda.

Coral, I think there's only one angle: Jews are the world's 'eternal minority', but unlike most minorities, world powers can't look down on them as inferior because of the many exceptional contributions and achievements they've made in civic society. So you get this weird, amorphous bigotry "which cannot be named".

Just look at the 'Jewish heritage' thread: otherwise seemingly-sane and even intelligent people get hypnotized by this "Jewish conspiracy" lunacy, yet they can never, ever say what the nature or goal of this 'conspiracy' is supposed to be. I think they are just truly fascinated by the Jews' unique place in the world, but rather than look at it as a positive sort of anomaly, they reflexively look for 'dark forces' behind it. It's really a matter of basic holistic worldview. The enemies of the Jews are the enemies of humanity, it's been proven time and again.

I asked the same question on that thread: it would be interesting to know what psychological disorder impels otherwise reasonable people to embrace passionate anti-semitism. The only answer I can think of is some kind of force of evil in our world which we don't understand. There are in fact reputable psychiatrists who believe that evil can be described as a real medical diagnosis.

So why should the U.S. go along with the thugs in the U.N. who use its thin sheen of legitimacy to attack Israel?
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Don't you see the reason of pointing out the resolutions ignored by Israel/vetoed by the US?
The US invaded Iraq over a UN resolution. So why should the US go along with the thugs in the UN?

I agree that UN resolutions are in no way objective. it still doesnt make the fact go away that the US veto's are just as un-objective. theres a lot of valid reasons for many of those resolutions.

And many more valid reasons to veto them.

Also, many of those 'resolutions' are political statements/suggestions/criticisms and nothing more. "Israel should do this" or "Israel shouldn't have done that".

As befits an impotent bureaucracy like the UN, few of the resolutions are intended to demand any drastic action.

It's just more corrupt, jealous goyim attacking God's chosen people.

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Don't you see the reason of pointing out the resolutions ignored by Israel/vetoed by the US?
The US invaded Iraq over a UN resolution. So why should the US go along with the thugs in the UN?

The US invaded Iraq because we have a highly corrupt Presidential administration with a personal vendetta and finacnial motivation who was going to attack no matter what. That doesn't make the UN any less of a corrupt and useless institution themselves.

Ask the Rwandan civilians who pleaded for help from the UN 'forces' carrying M-16's who instead sat and watched them be butchered with machetes right in front of their eyes.

**** the UN.

It's just more corrupt, jealous goyim attacking God's chosen people.

And we all know how much you love and respect the UN :rolleyes:

or Jews for that matter

or humanity in general.

Ras posted:
The bottom line, Killzone, is that these Arab countries still want what they wanted 60 years ago: the destruction of Israel.

I agree.

Coral posted:
Nice site you have here.
Somebody really must to write a article about different angles of anti-israeli propaganda.

How are documented facts “anti-Israeli propaganda”? Those kinds of terms (anti-Israeli propaganda”) make it almost impossible to have a sane, rational discussion about the USA’s policies toward Israel.

Banana posted:
Don't you see the reason of pointing out the resolutions ignored by Israel/vetoed by the US? The US invaded Iraq over a UN resolution. So why should the US go along with the thugs in the UN?

I started this thread. Unless I am seriously mistaken, you cannot read my mind. :nonono:

I was merely pointing out—using documented facts—that the USA has been supporting Israel for a long, long time.

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How are documented facts “anti-Israeli propaganda”? Those kinds of terms (anti-Israeli propaganda”) make it almost impossible to have a sane, rational discussion about the USA’s policies toward Israel.

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They started by showing pictures of people they announced as "jewish supremacists".
How is this a "documented facts".

How are documented facts “anti-Israeli propaganda”? Those kinds of terms (anti-Israeli propaganda”) make it almost impossible to have a sane, rational discussion about the USA’s policies toward Israel.


Facts can easily be used for propaganda, that is their most common use in fact. Facts presented with no context or qualifications presented solely in order to villify one side of a disagreement or conflict is pretty much the textbok definition of "propaganda".

C'mon, killzone, you're better than this. The site is called "no war for Israel". You really think it's a stretch to question the objectivity of such a source? I admit it's hard to find any objective source for information about Israel, but these people aren't even trying.

They started by showing pictures of people they announced as "jewish supremacists". How is this a "documented facts".

I cannot show “documented facts.” Therefore, I cannot prove that there are Jewish supremacists. It is my opinion that there are Jewish supremacists.

The US invaded Iraq because we have a highly corrupt Presidential administration with a personal vendetta and finacnial motivation who was going to attack no matter what.

Ras, Since we are dealing with facts, please provide proof that:

1)We have a highly corrupt Presidential administration (“PA”)

2)The PA had/has a personal vendetta [against Iraq].

3)The PA had a financial motivation [to invade Iraq].

4)The PA was “going to invade [Iraq] no matter what.”

Ras, Is the below “anti-Israel propaganda”?

http://www.action-for-un-renewal.org.uk/pages/isreal_un_resolutions.htm

How are documented facts “anti-Israeli propaganda”? Those kinds of terms (anti-Israeli propaganda”) make it almost impossible to have a sane, rational discussion about the USA’s policies toward Israel.
It's certainly propaganda to suggest that Israel's doing something illegal by not complying with advisory resolutions it's not obligated to observe.

The UNGA resolutions you're referring to are essentially SUGGESTIONS. Israel isn't legally required to honor them.

If the UNSC passes binding resolutions under Chapter Seven of the UN Charter and Israel ignores them, then you'd have a point.

Ras, Since we are dealing with facts, please provide proof that:

1)We have a highly corrupt Presidential administration (“PA”)

2)The PA had/has a personal vendetta [against Iraq].

3)The PA had a financial motivation [to invade Iraq].

4)The PA was “going to invade [Iraq] no matter what.”


1) No offense, this isn't meant as an insult, but if you don't see this by now, after five years of the Bush admistration, then you will never be convinced so I'm not going to bother addressing this in detail. I could point to duck-hunting trips with Cheney and Scalia while Cheney was waiting to have a case heard before the Supreme Court to bar the American public from knowing what he discussed with Enron executives in energy policy meetings before that company's financial collapse, I could bring up many other instances of collusion, back-scratching, nepotism, etc. etc. But I've gone 'round too many times before on this issue. I'm sorry that you only recently joined the board and so apparently must have missed the literally hundreds of discussion we've had about this, but the right-wing ideologues did their job thoroghly, as I am worn-out on the issue and no longer care to explain it to anybody. I did my homework, you do your own.

It doesn't matter anyway, since Bush can't run again: either the Dems will re-capture Congress next year and hopefully impeach him, or he will finish his term and be turned into some kind of hero like Reagan, via the re-writing of history by the right.

2) Bush made the following statement in defense of his raging hard-on for Hussein (as opposed to the world's many other 'rogue regime' tyrants whom he could have arbitrarily chosen for invasion and occupation):

And, in discussing the threat posed by Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, Bush said: "After all, this is the guy who tried to kill my dad."

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/09/27/bush.war.talk/

3) Again, if you don't see this by now, there's just no point in discussing it any further. I could post pictures of the Chevron oil tanker the Condoleezza Rice, or I could point to the many hundreds and hundreds of billions of taxpayer money which now sits in Halliburton coffers (for the wonderful job they've done in Iraq). but I don't feel like re-hashing this argument. If you're convinced that the Bush admin's oil and defense industry ties are simply a coincidence having nothing to do with his unstoppable ambition to start a war, then that's fine by me at this point. You're entitled to your opinion.

4) Well, I was probably wrong about this. I suppose if Saddam had comitted seppuku we could've avoided war (he did offer to to fight a duel with Bush). I suppose if everybody in the entire world did exactly as George W. Bush personally comanded then he wouldn't have a need to start wars of aggression based on his personal whims. You're right about that one; sorry.

"If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."

- George W. Bush, December 18, 2000

"All in all, it's been a fabulous year for Laura and me"

- George W. Bush, December 21, 2001

Propaganda—(1)The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause. (2)Material disseminated by the advocates or opponents of a doctrine or cause: wartime propaganda.

Nothing I have posted even comes close to being propaganda. You would have “made more hay” had you called me anti-Semitic. You would have been wrong, but it would have been more effective.

I started this thread to show that the US federal government is biased towards Israel. It cannot be denied. I fail to see why that bothers any of you. It isn’t anything new.

QUESTION: Why is this troubling to any of you?

Ras, on each point:

Point #1: You proved nothing.

Point #2: "After all, this is the guy who tried to kill my dad."

So that is proof that Bush had/has a personal vendetta against Iraq or Saddam? That is the only proof you offer? In any court of law, you would not only lose, you would be laughed out of the courtroom.

Point #3: You proved nothing.

Point #4: Thanks for admitting you were wrong.

Ras, would it not be better to say, “In my opinion…”?

I started this thread to show that the US federal government is biased towards Israel. It cannot be denied. I fail to see why that bothers any of you. It isn’t anything new.

QUESTION: Why is this troubling to any of you?

Will someone please answer that simple question? I really do not understand why those links bother anyone. Can someone explain?

I cannot show “documented facts.” Therefore, I cannot prove that there are Jewish supremacists. It is my opinion that there are Jewish supremacists.

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A believe is not a "documented fact".
Even your believe :)

Will someone please answer that simple question? I really do not understand why those links bother anyone. Can someone explain?

I'm not bothered. No reason to be bothered about one more anti-israeli propaganda site.
There are propably millions of those around.

Propaganda—(1)The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause.

Did you bother to read your own definition? Pretty much anything can fall under this line I put in bold.

A carefully-selected list of advisory resolutions for the purpose of advocating the cause of most certainly qualifies as propaganda, that's according to your own definition.

Nothing I have posted even comes close to being propaganda.

Apparently you don't know how to read a dictionary or you didn't bother to look at your own website, because yes it does.

Maybe where you're having trouble is that you think "propaganda" automatically implies something untrue or outrageous. That's not the case. Propaganda is not a term of moral judgement, it is (as your own definition shows) the systematic dissemination of information advocating a cause or doctrine...including the cause of "no war for Israel", which is the title of the website you linked.


Ras, on each point:

Point #1: You proved nothing.

Point #3: You proved nothing.

Point #4: :blahblah: [I]ad infinitum



Right....well, if you notice, I "pre-emptively" knew that this would be your reaction no matter what I posted, and I don't feel like digging up and posting five years worth of news articles for the purpose of educating you about your own government. If you don't care I don't care. If you feel that you've "proven" something, more power to ya. You're one of the 39% of the American public who thinks Bush is doing a good job and I don't begrudge you that opinion.

Ras, would it not be better to say, “In my opinion…”?

No, I don't feel the need to qualify anything I write on an internet message board as being my opinion. I thought that was pretty much understood by anyone who posts on an internet message board.

I started this thread to show that the US federal government is biased towards Israel. It cannot be denied. I fail to see why that bothers any of you. It isn’t anything new.

QUESTION: Why is this troubling to any of you?

Easy cowboy, let's take it down a peg...nobody seems too troubled here but you. First of all, nobody is denying anything because you haven't proven anything. Unless you're prepared to claim that foreign aid demonstrates "bias" towards a particular country, and acknowldege that the US is also "biased" towards places like Egypt and Iraq, then nothing you've posted means anything.

Second, you started this thread with nothing more than a link to some propaganda site called "no war for Israel.com". You didn't really add any comments of substance of your own, so I'm not sure exactly what you're screeching about. What do you expect anybody to do? Do you think anybody cares or is going to change their mind based on a web link? Most people here, on both sides of the issue, seem more well-informed than you about the situation, so I'm not sure what you think you're enlightening anyone about. You've already admitted that the situation is "too complex" and is "way over your head", so why are you desperate for someone to react? And react to what?

You would have “made more hay” had you called me anti-Semitic. You would have been wrong, but it would have been more effective.


LOL what on earth are you talking about? I'm sorry bro, but you're making a fool of yourself. I apologize if no one lived up to your expectation of some foaming-at-the-mouth Zionist ready to attack anybody who questions Israel an "anti-semite". Believe it or not, there's plenty of rational, lucid reasons to support Israel, and plenty of rational people who can explain them whether you accept it or not. Better luck next time.

I'm not bothered. No reason to be bothered about one more anti-israeli propaganda site. There are propably millions of those around.

Thank you for the answer. I fail to see why it would bother anyone.

Propaganda—(1)The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause.

You posted the above. I underlined systematic.

systematic

Yes. I read the definition. There has been nothing systematic about this issue.

Apparently you don't know how to read a dictionary or you didn't bother to look at your own website, because yes it does.

LOL what on earth are you talking about? I'm sorry bro, but you're making a fool of yourself. I apologize if no one lived up to your expectation of some foaming-at-the-mouth Zionist ready to attack anybody who questions Israel an "anti-semite". Believe it or not, there's plenty of rational, lucid reasons to support Israel, and plenty of rational people who can explain them whether you accept it or not. Better luck next time.

Ras, you can tell me I “don’t know how read a dictionary” or that I “didn’t bother to look at your [my] own website.” You can laugh at me (“LOL”) or you can say I am making “a fool of yourself” [myself]. Your comments that are derogatory in nature about me do not bother me.

Regardless of what you or anyone else has said about me, I have tried my best not to do what you did, and I will keep trying.

A believe is not a "documented fact".
Even your believe

I agree. It is only my opinion. :)

Heh....you might wanna look up the definition of systematic sometime while you're at it, buddy. And let me know if you need some help with that one too.

So why should the U.S. go along with the thugs in the U.N. who use its thin sheen of legitimacy to attack Israel?

Because your constitiution says you have to ;)

hugs

lilnymph

What exactly did we ratify congressionally which mandates that?

You signed a treaty. The constitution, I believe, states that any treated signed by the US is above any law passed internally within the US.

Hugs

lilnymph

The treaty has to be ratified by Congress, and not simply signed by the President, to be assimilated under the Supremacy Clause.

I can't help but notice this politicized littany of resolutions are full of "condemnations" and "recommendations".

Iraq made agreements with the United Nations. Their violations of UN Resolutions directly stem from breaking those agreements. All this proves is that the United Nations is tilted politically against Israel. It "disagrees" with Israel's foreign policy. Yawn.