I just had a very interesting conversation with my mother. It started when I told her I decided to go legit with my online music, and I choose the iTunes store cuz they leave in all the explicit lyrics (there are other reasons too). She asked "And that's a good thing?" I replied "For me, it is. I wanna hear it the way the artist originally sang it." Then she started talkin' about how good christains don't listen to that kind of music, and that it was wrong. Then, the word "sin" came in to play.

So, I'd like your opinion on the subject.

Your mama's from a different time, and she doesn't appreciate expression, but that's okay. Most people don't.

She's not that old, but still, she could be a bit more open.

What are some examples of the "explicit lyrics?"

It depends on what context it is in. If it is rap, or some of the trash forms of metal, I would not even consider that lyrics, just idiots using dirty words mindlessly.

I think it's more of a sin to be envious that I can't write really good lyrics (explicit or not) myself!

But I can live with that. I'm happy appreciating the talents of those who can!

What are some examples of the "explicit lyrics?"

It depends on what context it is in. If it is rap, or some of the trash forms of metal, I would not even consider that lyrics, just idiots using dirty words mindlessly.

As far as gratuitous use of profanity in most rap songs go, I agree. Now, as for metal....... Most of the metal songs I listen to either don't have profanity, or I just can't hear it cuz of the way it's sung.

Name some bands you consider "trash" metal.

She's not that old, but still, she could be a bit more open.
My parents are in their mid-fifties. They have the same opinion, minus the religious aspects.

Your mama's from a different time, and she doesn't appreciate expression, but that's okay. Most people don't.
I can appreciate her point of view... My son listens to songs with "explicit lyrics" mainly the f word, and I don't think I have any right to stop him (he's 18, which is legal adulthood here.) For myself - I don't like explicit lyrics, and so don't listen to them.
I'd have voted "depends" if that had been one of the options...

Good point, Della. I really think it does depend on the context.

I can appreciate her point of view... My son listens to songs with "explicit lyrics" mainly the f word, and I don't think I have any right to stop him (he's 18, which is legal adulthood here.)[

Don't you mean "but I don't think I have any right to stop him

Could someone in power around here edit my poll, and add a third option": "Depends on lyrical context"

Don't you mean "but I don't think I have any right to stop him
and/but - bit of both, really... The trouble is when he listens to earphones with the sound way too far up! (He's had hearing problems...)

and/but - bit of both, really... The trouble is when he listens to earphones with the sound way too far up! (He's had hearing problems...)

I don't like headphones/earphones. I listen thru my PCs stereo speakers.

As for my folks sanity, I close my room door, and try to keep the volume @ respectable level, and since the school year started over here, they'll be @ work most of the day, so they won't have to hear my stuff.

Oh, and that loudness going directly into your sons eardrums is contributing to his hearing loss.

I don't like headphones/earphones. I listen thru my PCs stereo speakers.

As for my folks sanity, I close my room door, and try to keep the volume @ respectable level, and since the school year started over here, they'll be @ work most of the day, so they won't have to hear my stuff.

Oh, and that loudness going directly into your sons eardrums is contributing to his hearing loss.
I know it is - I tell him that, and he usually turns it down if I protest enough - he's quite reasonable these days! :)

I don't believe in sin, so I'm gonna go ahead and say no, it's not.

Does your mother think you are a "good christian?" Do you think you are a "good christian?"

I don't believe in sin, so I'm gonna go ahead and say no, it's not.

Does your mother think you are a "good christian?" Do you think you are a "good christian?"

I consider myself an open-minded christian. ;)

I'm sending this page to my mom's inbox. I'll probably catch more more lip for this after she reads it, but a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.

I think people worry too much about doing right they are just words people

I think people worry too much about doing right they are just words people


Just words start wars . The things you think on relates to your character . Words are expressions of inner thoughts.

well if you have to express yourself hardcore no one should be able to hold you back. Listen to Mr Carlins thoughts on words and language very enlightening

well if you have to express yourself hardcore no one should be able to hold you back. Listen to Mr Carlins thoughts on words and language very enlightening

I like that. :nice:

I think people worry too much about doing right they are just words people

Exactly. :nice:

I think it's ridiculous that certain words are even considered obscene or taboo. They are just words. Who gets to judge what makes a word obscene anyway? It's absurd.

Sin? No.
Good for the person listening? Not a chance.

Those who require much explicit language to "express" themselves are illiterate.

Those who are educated and choose to use much explicit language to express themselves are sell-outs to some kind of perceived pressure, gullible enough to think it gives what they say more power, or stupid enough to think it makes them funnier or cooler.