Jihad Watch (http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/000870.php)



A FANATICAL pal of evil cleric Abu Hamza had told British children as young as ten they must “kill and be killed” for Islam.

Muslim extremist Omar Bakri — speaking in London’s East End — said suicide bombers were assured a place in paradise.
Bakri described such bombings as “self-sacrifice operations”.

An example would be to crash a plane on to 10 Downing Street or the White House, he told a cheering audience of Muslims, including around ten young children.

In one outburst he raged: “You must fight for the way of Allah, for the sake of Allah, to kill first and to be killed.”

Bakri, 44, who has been nicknamed the Tottenham Ayatollah, preached his sick gospel of terrorism at a hall in Bethnal Green.

The full rant was captured by BBC reporter Paul Kenyon — who said: “There’s no doubt he was talking about what it takes to be a suicide bomber.”

The Syrian-born cleric read out a list where terrorist atrocities had been carried out — New York’s Twin Towers, the bombing of US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, the Bali blast, and the bomb attack on the destroyer USS Cole in Yemen.

And he praised the September 11 bombers as the “Glorious 19 hijackers”.

well isn't that just lovely.

well isn't that just lovely.


Wwhats new, look how passive westerners are, if you can pull one out from under the log they crawled under to hide ! One way to catch one is to listen carefully for...bahh bahh . :rolleyes:

this is from 2004. I think trumpher has run out of recent incidents to post...

oki plans on becoming a suicide bomber

Oki, lol. I can see him in those little wooden shoes peddling his bike wildly toward an Amsterdam McDonalds strapped with dynamite. The first bike suicide bomber.

It would be nice if they would only kill themselves and not all the rest of us.

I have no problem with you killing yourself for Allah, really, go ahead just don't involve anyone else.

This thread is unreal... are there ANY rules here???

Yes and no.

This thread is unreal... are there ANY rules here???This seems to work for most people:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v709/raichu4u/SeenoEvilHearnoEvilSpeaknoevil.jpg

Actually, I'm finding that irrational personal attacks seem to work for most people...

Actually, I'm finding that irrational personal attacks seem to work for most people...you're probably with Al Qaeda

While you're at making pointless, inane, and stupid accusations, take a sec to look up the phrase "self-fulfilling prophecy".

Buh Bye.

It's called joking around Pints with play dough. No one seriously believes mild mannered oki plans on converting to Islam to start a holy war in the Netherlands.

Granted, 86Dud... I'm referring more to the general theme of personal attacks that have escalated lately...

huh, just kick the cleric out , ffs...

Granted, 86Dud... I'm referring more to the general theme of personal attacks that have escalated lately...

I hear that.

It's called joking around Pints with play dough. No one seriously believes mild mannered oki plans on converting to Islam to start a holy war in the Netherlands.

I can imagine the picture...

It would be nice if they would only kill themselves and not all the rest of us.

I have no problem with you killing yourself for Allah, really, go ahead just don't involve anyone else.


Then what would be the point of that...




Suicide is prohibited in Islam...

Fighting for your beliefs is not... this does not include the act of suicide-

And Also the killing of innocent beings is A Grave Sin--- YOU GO TO HELL FOR IT...

Got that Thumper! NOt To Heaven ?! If that is true can you tell me where that phrase of "going to heaven and having 72 virgins" is in the Quraan. Cause I am really Anxious to know so i can check it out?

So what other cool stuff besides blwoing up infidels can Muslims do to score points for the afterlife?

Suicide bomber use this phrase and other sayings like allah wants you to do this to make their actions seem less BAD.

It's actually the oppposite. The innocent british people and others who have been killed recently because of suicide attacks are the ones who are going to heaven( i am basing this on Quraanic sayings on death and heaven). And it seems the suicide bombers are most likely to go to hell...

So what other cool stuff besides blwoing up infidels can Muslims do to score points for the afterlife?

Did you not get what i said?

Then what would be the point of that...




Suicide is prohibited in Islam...

Fighting for your beliefs is not... this does not include the act of suicide-

And Also the killing of innocent beings is A Grave Sin--- YOU GO TO HELL FOR IT...

Got that Thumper! NOt To Heaven ?! If that is true can you tell me where that phrase of "going to heaven and having 72 virgins" is in the Quraan. Cause I am really Anxious to know so i can check it out?

Just to make it clear - YOU think that this guy that blow up people in the mall in Natania in Israel recently is going to hell?

If that is true can you tell me where that phrase of "going to heaven and having 72 virgins" is in the Quraan. Cause I am really Anxious to know so i can check it out?

Studies had shown that those sueside bombers in Israel (in the study there asked of cource the ones the was preparing to do it, but where stoped and arrested) believe exactly this - literally.
Heaven, virgines - the all stuff.
So I think that your main argument must be with them.

Just to make it clear - YOU think that this guy that blow up people in the mall in Natania in Israel recently is going to hell?

I am not sure... But probably...I mean i used to think that suicide bombing is allowed in islam but after reading some stuff...i found out that nowhere in the quraan does it say you can [b]Suicide[b] Bomb..

All it says is that you can fight for what you believe in...this could be protesting or fighting in a war...

The act of Suicide is disallowed in islam.

i need to read more to see if there are acceptions...but i am not sure

Let me help you... If there is a hell, that guy is there.

I am not sure... But probably...I mean i used to think that suicide bombing is allowed in islam but after reading some stuff...i found out that nowhere in the quraan does it say you can [b]Suicide[b] Bomb..

All it says is that you can fight for what you believe in...this could be protesting or fighting in a war...

The act of Suicide is disallowed in islam.

i need to read more to see if there are acceptions...but i am not sure

What about him killing the innocent?

What does the sign say above the nursery in a Palestinian maternity ward? "Live ammunition."

What about him killing the innocent?


basically Killing any innocents people is forbidden--whether jewish or christian :)

Thumper, you KNOW that Islam forbids suicide bombing. You've been told that by the muslims on this board a dozen times now. I think you're starting these threads just to piss people off.

Thumper, you KNOW that Islam forbids suicide bombing. You've been told that by the muslims on this board a dozen times now. I think you're starting these threads just to piss people off.

If it does - it is working.
And I remember - they did find some religious justification for this.
Don't remember the details.
Islam like every religion is interpeitated in different ways.
The fact is that too many do believe that it is even requered.

basically Killing any innocents people is forbidden--whether jewish or christian :)

So is this one that blow up people in Natania going to hell?

Would he if he would kill them without killing himself?

So is this one that blow up people in Natania going to hell?

Would he if he would kill them without killing himself?


i don't really know the story of Natania... if he didn't kill himself but killed innocents, he will still probably go to hell...

i don't really know the story of Natania... if he didn't kill himself but killed innocents, he will still probably go to hell...

The story of Natania is the usual one - like some other hundreds things like this that happened in Israel in last years.
A palestinian suicide bomber wanted to got into a mall to blow himself inside, was stopped in the door by the security man, blow himself up there killing six people, that wanted to inter to the mall.

The story of Natania is the usual one - like some other hundreds things like this that happened in Israel in last years.
A palestinian suicide bomber wanted to got into a mall to blow himself inside, was stopped in the door by the security man, blow himself up there killing six people, that wanted to inter to the mall.



Hey Just wondering do you classify Isreal to be in the Middle East or Europe?

(This iS Waaay off the topic--But i'm Just curious?)

Hey Just wondering do you classify Isreal to be in the Middle East or Europe?

(This iS Waaay off the topic--But i'm Just curious?)

I suppose you don't mean geographically, culturally I think it's between.
Politically- it's more western country.
It's a mix, really diverse palce.

waaaaay off topic